Things that grind your gears

[Kinokima]

People shitting on things like 4kids One Piece while at the same time being fans of old Funi DBZ dubs. In reality there not that different from each other, but one recieves much more flack than the other.

4kids went as far as to try and cut out characters from the story, What Funi did was by no means a masterpiece but it's miles ahead of what was done to One Piece.

Yeah I agree Funi's old DBZ dub had a lot of issues but there is literally no comparison to 4-Kids One Piece. That was literally the most atrocious thing I ever listened to.

[Gaffer Tape]

People shitting on things like 4kids One Piece while at the same time being fans of old Funi DBZ dubs. In reality there not that different from each other, but one recieves much more flack than the other.

4kids went as far as to try and cut out characters from the story, What Funi did was by no means a masterpiece but it's miles ahead of what was done to One Piece.

Lunch would like to have a word with you. So would Gohan's cave robot. And, yes, they went back several years later and rectified that, just like their dub of Kai several years after that fixed other prior mistakes. I don't have a horse in this race. I barely know anything about One Piece, let alone the 4Kids dub. But you can't say that FUNimation never cut out characters.

[Cure Dragon 255]

People shitting on things like 4kids One Piece while at the same time being fans of old Funi DBZ dubs. In reality there not that different from each other, but one recieves much more flack than the other.

4kids went as far as to try and cut out characters from the story, What Funi did was by no means a masterpiece but it's miles ahead of what was done to One Piece.

Lunch would like to have a word with you. So would Gohan's cave robot. And, yes, they went back several years later and rectified that, just like their dub of Kai several years after that fixed other prior mistakes. I don't have a horse in this race. I barely know anything about One Piece, let alone the 4Kids dub. But you can't say that FUNimation never cut out characters.

I fucking love you.

[sintzu]

Lunch would like to have a word with you. So would Gohan's cave robot. And, yes, they went back several years later and rectified that, just like their dub of Kai several years after that fixed other prior mistakes.

That's new to me, thanks.

OK, maybe they did some things like 4kids but it clearly was't enough to kill DB like 4kids almost did with One Piece.

[8000 Saiyan]

• People nitpicking about the Ocean dub naming scheme. Specifically, saying that the Westwood era was a completely different dub which had nothing to do with the original Ocean dub, and the only similarity is that they just so happened to use the same voice actors. Not only is this a nitpick at best, but it's not even correct. It was produced by a different company, but as with before, the scripts were written by Funimation, there was a replacement score(Yes, different composers, but you could say the same about the DBZ remastered US score 1-67 vs 68-291), it was the same actors(Some were recast, but most stayed), it even used almost identical visuals for the opening. The only real difference is in budget and which companies were financing it. In what way isn't it just a continuation of the original Ocean dub?
• Constant DBS spoilers literally everywhere. This isn't a jab at anyone in particular, but everywhere I go, there's spoilers wall-to-wall in video titles and thumbnails, Reddit posts, thread names, etc. I personally would rather go into each episode knowing nothing more than the episode title.
• People getting all concerned about canon all the time. You want continuity errors? The in-universe time between the first and second wish on the Dragon Balls in the series was 8 months.
• People not giving OG Dragon Ball a chance. It's where the show began. If you have time for Super, you have time to at least give that first 13-episode arc of Dragon Ball a look. There's a reason it ran for 153 episodes, and spawned 3 sequel shows.
• GT constantly being used as a punching bag. It was beautifully animated, the music was incredible, it was fun, and it was basically a 64-episode victory lap for the franchise back in '97. Hmm... Fun, broadly action in the genre, looks really nice, has a great soundtrack... That reminds me of something.
• People not giving GT a proper chance. Ask someone from the UK or Canada for their thoughts on GT, and they'll probably say it was okay, but not great. Ask someone from the US, and they'll almost certainly say it was total rubbish(Or garbage, as the case may be). Why this disparity? Because the US version was awful. The UK and Canada got a different dub of GT using the original music, the full 64-episode run, and actually embraced the sentimental, fun atmosphere. Of course, with all this hate being spewed at GT from the US, people nowadays tend to go in biased against it, giving it no real chance. In other words, you think you know GT? You don't know GT.

Really, these are only minor gripes I can do nothing about, but I must say, it feels good to get them off my chest.

I agree with the first one.

Another one that annoys me is that people complain about Corlett or Kelamis pronouncing Kamehameha as Kameyameya, while they don't complain about Schemmel doing the same.

[Sailor Haumea]

People shitting on things like 4kids One Piece while at the same time being fans of old Funi DBZ dubs. In reality there not that different from each other, but one recieves much more flack than the other.

4kids went as far as to try and cut out characters from the story, What Funi did was by no means a masterpiece but it's miles ahead of what was done to One Piece.

And nothing of value was lost from One Piece.

There's nothing good there to begin with.

I've got a gripe: People not using correct grammar and spelling. Come on, guys. I'm giving the non-native speakers a pass because, y'know, English isn't their first language, but those of you who ARE native English speakers? You don't have an excuse!

Please, just take a minute to proofread your posts. It helps everyone else understand what you're saying.

[8000 Saiyan]

People shitting on things like 4kids One Piece while at the same time being fans of old Funi DBZ dubs. In reality there not that different from each other, but one recieves much more flack than the other.

There was a difference between the two dubs: 4Kids had people who had experience, while Funimation got people from the street.

[sintzu]

There's nothing good there to begin with.

It wouldn't be the 1st best selling manga and 3rd overall best selling comic in the world if there was nothing good about it.

[DragonBallKing]

People shitting on things like 4kids One Piece while at the same time being fans of old Funi DBZ dubs. In reality there not that different from each other, but one recieves much more flack than the other.

There was a difference between the two dubs: 4Kids had people who had experience, while Funimation got people from the street.

For all the hate it gets the 4kids dub had some good actors and a lot of it's faults are in it's bad direction. Nami and chopper where pretty good voice wise, Luffy's actress matched Tanaka's pitch for better or worse, and Diraison's Zoro was awesome.

[DragonBallKing]

There's nothing good there to begin with.

It wouldn't be the 1st best selling manga and 3rd overall best selling comic in the world if there was nothing good about it.

Exactly, most people who crap on One Piece have only watched/read a small amount. Just get past it's art style and you'll see how great it is.

[Sailor Haumea]

There's nothing good there to begin with.

It wouldn't be the 1st best selling manga and 3rd overall best selling comic in the world if there was nothing good about it.

Exactly, most people who crap on One Piece have only watched/read a small amount. Just get past it's art style and you'll see how great it is.

It's still shit when you get past the packaging.

[ProtoTrunks76]

I know I'm probably going to piss a whole bunch of people off, so I'm gonna get this out the way; I like the ENG Dub and the JPN version. Yes, my preference goes to the Funimation post-2010 cast, but that doesn't mean that I think that the JPN is horrible, nor do I have any ill will towards the people behind either version of the same series, as neither version is perfect by any means.

With that out the way, this is more of a minor thing, but it does irritate me a little bit (and I find that it's a bit more apparent in DB Super), but for the life of me...
I just can't stand the fast-paced exchanges of blows in the JPN version. I've always found it a bit annoying when a fighter is locked in a rapid exchange of blows/punches only to hear the same variation of "atatatatatatatatata" every single time. As someone who's voiced in a bunch of indie fighting games before, it begins to bother me after a while. I feel as though the "rapid exchange of blows" is something that I feel that the English dub does a whole lot better with. Not only do the actors use a wider variety of grunts/yells/shouts, but because of that, those particular parts make the fight seem more lifelike and intense like a lot of them are supposed to be.
I'm sorry; I just find that the JPN version just doesn't cut it for me during scenes like that.

I mean, compare this: https://youtu.be/HCWN6kmzo8Y
to this: https://youtu.be/cUA0y5pFFFs

[DragonBallKing]

I know I'm probably going to piss a whole bunch of people off, so I'm gonna get this out the way; I like the ENG Dub and the JPN version. Yes, my preference goes to the Funimation post-2010 cast, but that doesn't mean that I think that the JPN is horrible, nor do I have any ill will towards the people behind either version of the same series, as neither version is perfect by any means.

With that out the way, this is more of a minor thing, but it does irritate me a little bit (and I find that it's a bit more apparent in DB Super), but for the life of me...
I just can't stand the fast-paced exchanges of blows in the JPN version. I've always found it a bit annoying when a fighter is locked in a rapid exchange of blows/punches only to hear the same variation of "atatatatatatatatata" every single time. As someone who's voiced in a bunch of indie fighting games before, it begins to bother me after a while. I feel as though the "rapid exchange of blows" is something that I feel that the English dub does a whole lot better with. Not only do the actors use a wider variety of grunts/yells/shouts, but because of that, those particular parts make the fight seem more lifelike and intense like a lot of them are supposed to be.
I'm sorry; I just find that the JPN version just doesn't cut it for me during scenes like that.

I mean, compare this: https://youtu.be/HCWN6kmzo8Y
to this: https://youtu.be/cUA0y5pFFFs

While the Japanese version always had battle shouts like this it's become a lot more generic and prevalent in Super. Nowadays everyone's doing a Kenshiro impersonation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUxvSEzIOWU

[Cure Dragon 255]

This one isnt so bad. I really miss the sound direction of Old DB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zd_j9j7CkI

[MaskedRider]

This comes more so from the youtube comment crowd than any community but how they treat Ribrianne's existence with nothing but hate irritates me, I'm not that big of a fan of her but when I say that I'm not saying I don't want her in DB, I think she fits in well but just not a character I would talk and draw fan art about (maybe one day).

[Ripper 30]

I know I'm probably going to piss a whole bunch of people off, so I'm gonna get this out the way; I like the ENG Dub and the JPN version. Yes, my preference goes to the Funimation post-2010 cast, but that doesn't mean that I think that the JPN is horrible, nor do I have any ill will towards the people behind either version of the same series, as neither version is perfect by any means.

With that out the way, this is more of a minor thing, but it does irritate me a little bit (and I find that it's a bit more apparent in DB Super), but for the life of me...
I just can't stand the fast-paced exchanges of blows in the JPN version. I've always found it a bit annoying when a fighter is locked in a rapid exchange of blows/punches only to hear the same variation of "atatatatatatatatata" every single time. As someone who's voiced in a bunch of indie fighting games before, it begins to bother me after a while. I feel as though the "rapid exchange of blows" is something that I feel that the English dub does a whole lot better with. Not only do the actors use a wider variety of grunts/yells/shouts, but because of that, those particular parts make the fight seem more lifelike and intense like a lot of them are supposed to be.
I'm sorry; I just find that the JPN version just doesn't cut it for me during scenes like that.

I mean, compare this: https://youtu.be/HCWN6kmzo8Y
to this: https://youtu.be/cUA0y5pFFFs

While the Japanese version always had battle shouts like this it's become a lot more generic and prevalent in Super. Nowadays everyone's doing a Kenshiro impersonation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUxvSEzIOWU

It's not like they never did it back in Old Days but a lot less than now.

[8000 Saiyan]

People shitting on things like 4kids One Piece while at the same time being fans of old Funi DBZ dubs. In reality there not that different from each other, but one recieves much more flack than the other.

There was a difference between the two dubs: 4Kids had people who had experience, while Funimation got people from the street.

For all the hate it gets the 4kids dub had some good actors and a lot of it's faults are in it's bad direction. Nami and chopper where pretty good voice wise, Luffy's actress matched Tanaka's pitch for better or worse, and Diraison's Zoro was awesome.

Diraison is a very underrated voice actor. His Guts is absolutely amazing. What a shame they couldn't get him for the Berserk 2016 dub. But then again, I've heard bad things about the 2016 version.

[DragonBallKing]

While the Japanese version always had battle shouts like this it's become a lot more generic and prevalent in Super. Nowadays everyone's doing a Kenshiro impersonation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUxvSEzIOWU[/quote]

It's not like they never did it back in Old Days but a lot less than now.[/quote]

Either way I don't mind it, it reminds me that Dragon Ball is still a crazy over the top Martial arts show. Even Sabat and Schemell have started doing a few Yatatatatatata's

[rereboy]

It's still shit when you get past the packaging.

Or you just call it shit because what you saw didn't fit your particular tastes. Food for thought.

[DragonBallKing]

It bothers me that anime will never receive a big boom to reach mainstream popularity in the west like DBZ did. Nobody even watches TV anymore, so even if Toonami wasn't Dying on a shitty Saturday night time slot anime still wouldn't explode. The increased presence of online streaming has made it impossible for scheduled programming to compete.