I was very content with the ending of Dragon Ball GT

[ABED]

All that says is that those characters are very old, not that you will get to 400 years if you are stronger. I will grant you that it's a logical inference, but it's never implied or stated that the stronger you get, the longer you will live. The only thing we hear about Goku's aging is that Saiyans age slower than humans, but it is never stated how much slower.

I don't know why anyone finds the idea depressing that all the other characters have died within the 100 year gap. That's a long time and they could've all lived long, happy lives.

[Eire]

IIRC it was told that they stay in their prime longer, there was nothing about lifespan.
The only extremely long living full humans were Roshi and Fortuneteller Baba and the latter certainly didn't extend her life by ma trial arts.

[WittyUsername]

As vague as it was, I certainly do think that the ending to GT beats the ending to the manga. Goku flying off with Shenlong and seeing his descendant fighting in the Tenkaichi Budokai is much more satisfying than him flying off to train a kid he barely knows.

[ABED]

As vague as it was, I certainly do think that the ending to GT beats the ending to the manga. Goku flying off with Shenlong and seeing his descendant fighting in the Tenkaichi Budokai is much more satisfying than him flying off to train a kid he barely knows.

Not to mention WE the audience barely know Uub.

[Ripper 30]

As vague as it was, I certainly do think that the ending to GT beats the ending to the manga. Goku flying off with Shenlong and seeing his descendant fighting in the Tenkaichi Budokai is much more satisfying than him flying off to train a kid he barely knows.

Not to mention WE the audience barely know Uub.

Agreed, it beats the Manga ending Imo.

[Cipher]

"DAN DAN"'s all right. Its tone fits the aesthetics of the intro (and therein the aesthetics of the show), even if its lyrics don't.

"Blue Velvet," though, that shit's poppin'.

Oh, and my earlier reference was to Twin Peaks.

[Ripper 30]

"DAN DAN"'s all right. Its tone fits the aesthetics of the intro (and therein the aesthetics of the show), even if its lyrics don't.

"Blue Velvet," though, that shit's poppin'.

Oh, and my earlier reference was to Twin Peaks.

Why do you hate "Blue Velvet" ?

[Cipher]

Why do you hate "Blue Velvet" ?

That's a bit of colloquial American English. It means I really like it.

[Ripper 30]

Why do you hate "Blue Velvet" ?

That's a bit of colloquial American English. It means I really like it.

Lol I misread it, I actually liked how they used pictures of OG Dragon Ball in that ending.

[Eire]

One thing that stuck me when I rewatched ending- as a kid I was really angry that Pan barely recognizes Bulma's descendants. They were so close, how it come? Now I see that the link that chained whole families broke, everyone went own with their lives. They probably called randomly during special ocassions, had one or two meetings then everyone got lost in own life.

[DragonBallKing]

Whether you prefer the Z or GT ending I have to say that the concept of the evil dragons is very fitting for the final arc of Dragon Ball, the way the arc actually unfolded should have been done differently though. Someone on another thread suggested each each member of the cast fights a dragon of slightly greater strength.

[Desassina]

Dragon Ball GT ended a bit too prosaic for my taste and Goku had only himself to keep. It was sad and bittersweet, too sudden of a departure, as the Earth learned nothing from it.

[ABED]

Dragon Ball GT ended a bit too prosaic for my taste and Goku had only himself to keep. It was sad and bittersweet, too sudden of a departure, as the Earth learned nothing from it.

I don't understand this at all.

[Desassina]

You don't have to pass it as nonsense. Just say that you're not empathetic. We're done with this.

[ABED]

You don't have to pass it as nonsense. Just say that you're not empathetic. We're done with this.

What? No, I literally don't understand how you came to the conclusion that it's prosaic, that the Earth learned nothing, or that Goku leaving was too sudden. And you got really heated for some reason. I never said or implied it was nonsense. What do you mean by Goku had only himself to keep?

[Desassina]

You don't have to pass it as nonsense. Just say that you're not empathetic. We're done with this.

What? No, I literally don't understand how you came to the conclusion that it's prosaic, that the Earth learned nothing, or that Goku leaving was too sudden. And you got really heated for some reason. I never said or implied it was nonsense. What do you mean by Goku had only himself to keep?

Just say what you think it is without judging it right or wrong. It's how we feel, because of different experiences, which shape our perception as well. If merely trying to make sense, then you'll be hitting us on the head, instead of giving us the gut impression of it.

The world ended a bit too prosaic and it learned nothing from our heroes. In the GT Special, they were on a trip with bullies, and God forbid if the concept of a bully wasn't too close to how school fiction depicts them. The closer it is to other media portrayals the duller it becomes. They were also travelling with backpacks and taking a lift somewhere in dowangraded vehicles compared to those on Dragon Ball. It felt like a camping trip story with a personal achievement. In the end, Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. faced off against each other with transformations that were still unseen, and my eyes rolled with how advanced the tournament ring became in light of them having little to no comparable fighters to then. Goku left with nothing but relief over them in spite of lost connections and the fact that he existed to be a ghost.

[ABED]

I didn't judge it negatively. I didn't understand how you reached that conclusion nor what you meant by "Goku had only himself to keep".

Okay, what I seem to be getting is that you felt the GT special was too low key, for lack of a better term. I still don't understand your issue with the ending. For one, the GT special wasn't the ending, we did see Goku Jr. transform for the first time, and what does the advanced tournament ring have to do with how great the fighters are?

Of course Goku leaves satisfied. He sees a new generation of fighters who are strong and fighting their hearts out. He's a ghost but he lived a fun, exciting life. He's content with what he did and the next generation.