The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hellspawn28]

Jimeze vs...

Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Zarbon Monster Form
Captain Ginyu (No body change)
Ganos (Transformation)
Namek Saga Freeza 1st form
Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the 1st time
Namek Saga Freeza 3rd form
Namek Saga Freeza 4th form
Namek Saga SSj Goku
SSj Future Trunks (After he killed Freeza for the first time)
Imperfect Cell (When he first fought Piccolo)
#17 (During his fight with Piccolo)
Semi Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
SSj2 Cell saga Gohan
Majin Vegeta
Buff Up Basil
Lavender
Botamo
SSj3 Goku (Buu Saga)
Kahseral
Super Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Kid Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Obuni
Buuhan
Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
Giant Bergamo
Maji Kayo
Hit
SSj Rose Goku Black
Jiren

Rules:

No outside help
Jimeze gets heal after every battle

How far does he go?

[Berserker1921]

Jimeze vs...

Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Zarbon Monster Form
Captain Ginyu (No body change)
Ganos (Transformation)
Namek Saga Freeza 1st form
Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the 1st time
Namek Saga Freeza 3rd form
Namek Saga Freeza 4th form
Namek Saga SSj Goku
SSj Future Trunks (After he killed Freeza for the first time)
Imperfect Cell (When he first fought Piccolo)
#17 (During his fight with Piccolo)
Semi Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
SSj2 Cell saga Gohan
Majin Vegeta
Buff Up Basil
Lavender
Botamo
SSj3 Goku (Buu Saga)
Kahseral
Super Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Kid Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Obuni
Buuhan
Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
Giant Bergamo
Maji Kayo
Hit
SSj Rose Goku Black
Jiren

Rules:

No outside help
Jimeze gets heal after every battle

How far does he go?

He kept up with semi-powered up Gohan. I have Gohan at full power around Buuhan level. And around Ssj2 level at half power. So Jimze stops at Botomo.

[Hugo Boss]

Jimeze vs...

Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Zarbon Monster Form
Captain Ginyu (No body change)
Ganos (Transformation)
Namek Saga Freeza 1st form
Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the 1st time
Namek Saga Freeza 3rd form
Namek Saga Freeza 4th form
Namek Saga SSj Goku
SSj Future Trunks (After he killed Freeza for the first time)
Imperfect Cell (When he first fought Piccolo)
#17 (During his fight with Piccolo)
Semi Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
SSj2 Cell saga Gohan
Majin Vegeta
Buff Up Basil
Lavender
Botamo
SSj3 Goku (Buu Saga)
Kahseral
Super Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Kid Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Obuni
Buuhan
Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
Giant Bergamo
Maji Kayo
Hit
SSj Rose Goku Black
Jiren

Rules:

No outside help
Jimeze gets heal after every battle

How far does he go?

It’s implied a Super Saiyan level fighter can beat him, so I would say he stops at Goku from Namek Arc.

[Lord Beerus]

Jimeze vs...

Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Zarbon Monster Form
Captain Ginyu (No body change)
Ganos (Transformation)
Namek Saga Freeza 1st form
Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the 1st time
Namek Saga Freeza 3rd form
Namek Saga Freeza 4th form
Namek Saga SSj Goku
SSj Future Trunks (After he killed Freeza for the first time)
Imperfect Cell (When he first fought Piccolo)
#17 (During his fight with Piccolo)
Semi Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
SSj2 Cell saga Gohan
Majin Vegeta
Buff Up Basil
Lavender
Botamo
SSj3 Goku (Buu Saga)
Kahseral
Super Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Kid Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Obuni
Buuhan
Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
Giant Bergamo
Maji Kayo
Hit
SSj Rose Goku Black
Jiren

Rules:

No outside help
Jimeze gets heal after every battle

How far does he go?

In reality, anybody with quick enough reflexes can take down Jimeze. Gohan got battered as badly as he did because he didn't know how to react to a technique like Instant Transmission being used constantly. In fact, previously to fighting Jimeze, we see Ultimate Gohan getting his butt kicked by SSJ2 Goku when Goku started to use the Instant Transmission and apply it effectively in their sparring match. It's one of those techniques that Gohan has no idea how to handle when it used very properly. But Freeza, a much more seasoned, experienced and honed fight, does know handle with shit like that and it showed with him swatting Jimeze like a fly and easily defeating him. So it can't really be determined as to how far Jimeze goes in this gauntlet style match.

[dragon boss z]

Jimeze vs...

Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Zarbon Monster Form
Captain Ginyu (No body change)
Ganos (Transformation)
Namek Saga Freeza 1st form
Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the 1st time
Namek Saga Freeza 3rd form
Namek Saga Freeza 4th form
Namek Saga SSj Goku
SSj Future Trunks (After he killed Freeza for the first time)
Imperfect Cell (When he first fought Piccolo)
#17 (During his fight with Piccolo)
Semi Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
SSj2 Cell saga Gohan
Majin Vegeta
Buff Up Basil
Lavender
Botamo
SSj3 Goku (Buu Saga)
Kahseral
Super Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Kid Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Obuni
Buuhan
Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
Giant Bergamo
Maji Kayo
Hit
SSj Rose Goku Black
Jiren

Rules:

No outside help
Jimeze gets heal after every battle

How far does he go?

Probably stops at final fight form Frieza, definitely by Buu.

[Hugo Boss]

Jimeze vs...

Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Zarbon Monster Form
Captain Ginyu (No body change)
Ganos (Transformation)
Namek Saga Freeza 1st form
Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the 1st time
Namek Saga Freeza 3rd form
Namek Saga Freeza 4th form
Namek Saga SSj Goku
SSj Future Trunks (After he killed Freeza for the first time)
Imperfect Cell (When he first fought Piccolo)
#17 (During his fight with Piccolo)
Semi Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell
SSj2 Cell saga Gohan
Majin Vegeta
Buff Up Basil
Lavender
Botamo
SSj3 Goku (Buu Saga)
Kahseral
Super Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Kid Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Obuni
Buuhan
Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
Giant Bergamo
Maji Kayo
Hit
SSj Rose Goku Black
Jiren

Rules:

No outside help
Jimeze gets heal after every battle

How far does he go?

In reality, anybody with quick enough reflexes can take down Jimeze. Gohan got battered as badly as he did because he didn't know how to react to a technique like Instant Transmission being used constantly. In fact, previously to fighting Jimeze, we see Ultimate Gohan getting his butt kicked by SSJ2 Goku when Goku started to use the Instant Transmission and apply it effectively in their sparring match. It's one of those techniques that Gohan has no idea how to handle when it used very properly. But Freeza, a much more seasoned, experienced and honed fight, does know handle with shit like that and it showed with him swatting Jimeze like a fly and easily defeating him. So it can't really be determined as to how far Jimeze goes in this gauntlet style match.

This was well said. Perhaps Gohan himself was about to discover a way to counter Instant Transmission without having to power-up. Freeza just got in the way.

[dragon boss z]

He kept up with semi-powered up Gohan. I have Gohan at full power around Buuhan level. And around Ssj2 level at half power. So Jimze stops at Botomo.

That was base Gohan, who shouldn't even be ssj level.

[Zamasu55]

Jimeze vs...


Perfect Cell
SSj2 Cell saga Gohan
Majin Vegeta
Buff Up Basil
Lavender
Botamo
SSj3 Goku (Buu Saga)
Kahseral
Super Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Kid Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)
Obuni
Buuhan
Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
Giant Bergamo
Maji Kayo
Hit
SSj Rose Goku Black
Jiren

Rules:

No outside help
Jimeze gets heal after every battle

How far does he go?

I took out the weakest, so let's see:

- Cell wins.
- Gohan wins.
- Majin Vegeta wins.
- Buffed Basil was slightly weaker than Good Buu, who should be stronger than Jimeze. He wins.
- Jimeze wins, unless he's hit by the poison, but I'm sure it wouldn't happen.
- Unless it is a Tournament with explicit rules, Jimeze can't do anything to Botamo.
- Goku slaughters.
- Interesting battle. I don't have a clue, since Kahseral is just another wasted character and all I got from his "fights" is that he's weaker than 17.
- Buu slaughters.
- Buu slaughters.
- I think they're even, since both were stronger than Base Gohan. I think Jimeze would win after all, my opinion.
- Buu slaughters.
- Zamasu slaughters.

The following three would kill him in an instant, since they're all far stronger than Final form Freeza, who toyed all the time with Jimeze.

[apex_pretador]

New match:

- Beerus & Whis vs. All 80 fighters in the Tournament Of Power

Beerus alone could blow them away with a massive AoE, killing almost everyone. By feats shown so far, only Botamo, KaioKen Goku and Jiren would survive. Botamo gets hakai'd, Goku and jiren plain beaten to death or hakai'd.

Jimeze vs...

[spoiler]Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Zarbon Monster Form
Captain Ginyu (No body change)
Ganos (Transformation)
Namek Saga Freeza 1st form
Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the 1st time
Namek Saga Freeza 3rd form
Namek Saga Freeza 4th form
Namek Saga SSj Goku
SSj Future Trunks (After he killed Freeza for the first time)
Imperfect Cell (When he first fought Piccolo)
#17 (During his fight with Piccolo)
Semi Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell[/spoiler]

Completely curbstomps them with ease, considering they aren't even close to base Gohan.

SSj2 Cell saga Gohan
Majin Vegeta

I think that SS2 Gohan from recruitment arc was supposed to be above the one from cell arc. So Jimiz takes this too.

Buff Up Basil
Lavender
Botamo

Even combined, they were only barely able to overwhelm Goku in base. Jimiz takes this via being superior to base goku.

SSj3 Goku (Buu Saga)

Now, this is interesting. We know Jimiz is stronger than fat buu, but how much? Even base saiyans are stronger than fat buu, but they are no match for Jimiz. I guess current piccolo should be above fat buu too, so jimiz's fight against Gohan puts him above super saiyan 3 goku from buu arc.

Kahseral

What did he do, again?

Super Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)

Jimiz takes this. See the reasoning for Goku.

Kid Buu (No candy beam and absorbing)

Kid buu is slightly weaker than super buu, but he will probably blow up the planet. Depends if jimiz can take him before it happens.

Obuni

Jimiz did far better against base gohan than obuni did. Jimiz wins.

Buuhan

Could buuhan stomp super buu like jimiz did to base gohan? Yes he could. This fight can go either way, with possible slight advantage to Jimiz because base saiyans seem slightly better than super buu.

Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)

Zamasu takes this, he was a decent match for SS2 Goku who was serious, and apparently "rivaled power of gods of destruction" according to gowasu while fighting zamasu.

Giant Bergamo

He was twice as powerful as SS1 Goku if I'm not mistaken. Jimiz was completely helpless against Final Form Freeza, who shouldn't be far above SS1 Goku.

Maji Kayo

If Maji gets his hands body on jimiz to get a hold of him, then Maji kayo wins, otherwise jimiz wins.

Hit

Hit annihilates

SSj Rose Goku Black
Jiren

They both annihilate

[LowRyder2005]

He kept up with semi-powered up Gohan. I have Gohan at full power around Buuhan level. And around Ssj2 level at half power. So Jimze stops at Botomo.

That was base Gohan, who shouldn't even be ssj level.

Yeah. Jimeze probably stops at/right after Super Saiyan Goku on Namek; ain't seeing him take down anyone from the Android Arc, at the very least.

Zamasu takes this, he was a decent match for SS2 Goku who was serious, and apparently "rivaled power of gods of destruction" according to gowasu while fighting zamasu.

I don't see the point of referencing this, since the intent of the scene wasn't to state that SS2 Goku was on par with a God of Destruction. Gowas only said this because he was informed Goku had fought Beerus and survived -- so he was naturally inclined to conclude that Goku possessed similar power. He had no actual idea on how strong Beerus was, and much later the Gods themselves imply Goku has power comparable to the gods only when going Blue. Which is... pretty obvious, since SS2 Goku probably can't do shit to even the weakest Hakaishin.

[dragon boss z]

Jimeze vs...

[spoiler]Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Zarbon Monster Form
Captain Ginyu (No body change)
Ganos (Transformation)
Namek Saga Freeza 1st form
Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the 1st time
Namek Saga Freeza 3rd form
Namek Saga Freeza 4th form
Namek Saga SSj Goku
SSj Future Trunks (After he killed Freeza for the first time)
Imperfect Cell (When he first fought Piccolo)
#17 (During his fight with Piccolo)
Semi Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell[/spoiler]

Completely curbstomps them with ease, considering they aren't even close to base Gohan.

What makes you think base Gohan is so strong? If ssj2 Gohan was around Piccolo level, who imo is still weaker than Buu or at best around Buu, base Gohan should be dozens of times weaker than that. I don't see why base Gohan should be above namek Frieza or ssj Goku unless his base is somehow being amped by his mystic form.

[apex_pretador]

Jimeze vs...

[spoiler]Raditz
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Zarbon Monster Form
Captain Ginyu (No body change)
Ganos (Transformation)
Namek Saga Freeza 1st form
Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the 1st time
Namek Saga Freeza 3rd form
Namek Saga Freeza 4th form
Namek Saga SSj Goku
SSj Future Trunks (After he killed Freeza for the first time)
Imperfect Cell (When he first fought Piccolo)
#17 (During his fight with Piccolo)
Semi Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell[/spoiler]

Completely curbstomps them with ease, considering they aren't even close to base Gohan.

What makes you think base Gohan is so strong? If ssj2 Gohan was around Piccolo level, who imo is still weaker than Buu or at best around Buu, base Gohan should be dozens of times weaker than that. I don't see why base Gohan should be above namek Frieza or ssj Goku unless his base is somehow being amped by his mystic form.

Current base gohan seems even with current base goku who is stronger than piccolo.

It might be possible that getting "mystic" again amped Gohan's base, or overnight training with piccolo did. Though it is ridiculous to have him become stronger than SS2 version of himself in base within one day, but it's super. They do that stuff all the time

[dragon boss z]

Current base gohan seems even with current base goku who is stronger than piccolo.

I don't think so. Base Goku should at least be equal to final form Frieza, while Gohan didn't even seem to be close.

It might be possible that getting "mystic" again amped Gohan's base, or overnight training with piccolo did. Though it is ridiculous to have him become stronger than SS2 version of himself in base within one day, but it's super. They do that stuff all the time

I think this was more or less Goku being nerfed because they wanted to have base Goku vs Gohan. They might think that having base Goku vs ssj Gohan might confuse the fans. Don't forget that base Gohan also went even with base Goku before his training with Piccolo in the great saiyaman episode.

[apex_pretador]

Current base gohan seems even with current base goku who is stronger than piccolo.

I don't think so. Base Goku should at least be equal to final form Frieza, while Gohan didn't even seem to be close.

Current Final Form Freeza is much stronger than base saiyans. Didn't you see how hilariously he outclassed frost, who is atleast equal to base saiyans? And how he treated Napapa, who is comparable to SS caulifla and was able to tank hits from Basil.
And the quotes from RoF:
"To surpass the powered up Freeza, Goku transformed into SSB"

and Goku telling him he couldn't beat him without transforming
and Freeza implying that he could take SS Goku without going golden
and Freeza somewhat keeping up with mystic gohan who is more powerful than SS2 Goku.

It might be possible that getting "mystic" again amped Gohan's base, or overnight training with piccolo did. Though it is ridiculous to have him become stronger than SS2 version of himself in base within one day, but it's super. They do that stuff all the time

I think this was more or less Goku being nerfed because they wanted to have base Goku vs Gohan. They might think that having base Goku vs ssj Gohan might confuse the fans.

If that would be the case, they could've just had Gohan forced to go mystic like he later did.
Gohan's fight against obuni also implies his base and mystic are not as far apart like they were in buu arc (below namek Goku to above Super buu)

Don't forget that base Gohan also went even with base Goku before his training with Piccolo in the great saiyaman episode.

I have to, just like I forgot SS3 Gotenks vs base Vegeta. There's a thing called outlier, which happen in both high end and low end.

[AvatarReiko]

Caulifa and Kale vs hit

[Hugo Boss]

And the quotes from RoF:
"To surpass the powered up Freeza, Goku transformed into SSB"

and Goku telling him he couldn't beat him without transforming
and Freeza implying that he could take SS Goku without going golden

I checked those scenes and they don’t pass me the impression Final Form Freeza was any stronger than Base Goku. In fact, Goku and Vegeta figured that Freeza was hiding strength in the realm of SSB, which turned out to be his golden form.

[apex_pretador]

And the quotes from RoF:
"To surpass the powered up Freeza, Goku transformed into SSB"

and Goku telling him he couldn't beat him without transforming
and Freeza implying that he could take SS Goku without going golden

I checked those scenes and they don’t pass me the impression Final Form Freeza was any stronger than Base Goku. In fact, Goku and Vegeta figured that Freeza was hiding strength in the realm of SSB, which turned out to be his golden form.

What about Golden Freeza finally considering SSB worthy of showing golden form? It implies that Freeza could've taken regular super saiyan goku without going golden.

[Hugo Boss]

And the quotes from RoF:
"To surpass the powered up Freeza, Goku transformed into SSB"

and Goku telling him he couldn't beat him without transforming
and Freeza implying that he could take SS Goku without going golden

I checked those scenes and they don’t pass me the impression Final Form Freeza was any stronger than Base Goku. In fact, Goku and Vegeta figured that Freeza was hiding strength in the realm of SSB, which turned out to be his golden form.

What about Golden Freeza finally considering SSB worthy of showing golden form? It implies that Freeza could've taken regular super saiyan goku without going golden.

Actually, Freeza was just testing SSB's power. Goku even warned him to stop doing the same thing.

[apex_pretador]

Caulifa and Kale vs hit

Hit stops time and kills them both with one hit (no pun intended)

[MainJPW]

Caulifa and Kale vs hit

Hit kills them easily.