Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

[darzap]

Bt I gotta say, Rebrianne and Vegeta were super unlikeable in these episodes. I guess Rebrianne is being intentionally written to be unlikeable, but Vegeta being a prick and not donating energy was dumb. It's like they forgot his buu saga development completely.

It wasn't just dumb, it was also inconsistent throughout the episode because he was the one who bothered to shield Goku from Ribrianne und implying that he'd protect him, while he was down. Maybe they'll make something out of that later, like him saying that he'll put that Genki to some other use.

[Hasaki]

Hot damn that was two amazing episodes
That new form seems to be a teaser of what comes next for Goku after the tournament.

[TekTheNinja]

The episodes themselves were absolutely godly, but I fear that the concepts brought forth will limit the future of the show.

[precita]

So I guess there's no reason Goku wouldn't be able to beat Beerus with his new form now. I wonder if we'll see a Goku Vs. Beerus match after this arc ends.

[Michsi]

Just here to add to the general merriment. It was good couple of episodes and it looks like the next will look just as nice. Jiren is still not scoring any points as his own character sadly, but they did a great job of showing his power.
Use of the bgm must also be mentioned. It was great. Though I gotta admit, wasn't a huge fan of the insert song :/
The new ED was neat to, just wish it would've been a little more action oriented to match the beat. Visuals seemed more jovial than the song.


But man, they are really going back and forth with Vegeta's character development. Not helping with your energy. Really???!!!

And I just gotta say that I loved most of U7's tempered reaction to Goku's "defeat", and then were all like "oh hey, he got stronger and he keeps getting stronger. What shock, Goku!" to his new form. Especially Freeza's amusement.

[Brettjr25]

Correct me if I'm wrong but besides 17 & 18 shouldn't Goku crippled universe 7 with his spirit bomb? I could sworn when people give up energy for the spirit bomb they're completely drained or am I not remembering correctly. Did you see the size of that thing? It didn't look like Goku used energy from anyone besides U7 but I guess that's just nitpicking.

Seems like Freeza is going to be the new "android arc vegeta" and I'm pretty sure Freeza took Goku away to give him some of his ki like Baku did to him on Namek.

NEP

I'm glad Hit is getting his time to shine. Jirens threat seemed to take him out of the spotlight making people forget how much a threat Hit really is. He still is the most powerful in his universe, been around for ages and have limitless potential with the ability to improve instantly. He'll he surpassed Blue kkx10 Goku in moments. Personally I think if anyone had the ability to challenge Jiren, its Hit. However strong Jiren is, it'll make Hit stronger.


Also a quick nod to Goku new form! Faster than light! So powerful it shock the whole void world and the best part was the martial arts moves used instead of just punching.

[Artorias]

I absolutely LOVED how, for once in this franchise, the character who got the power up didn't just start mopping the floor with the other guy. We all know that trope, one character gets his ass whooped, transforms, does badass walk/stare, proceeds to beat the shit out of the other guy. It's tired and played out. It was so refreshing to see that the transformation was essentially a temporary boost that simply allowed Goku to be ON PAR with Jiren.

My only real gripe with this episode was the pacing during the gathering of the energy for the Spirit Bomb was a bit awkward and rushed, and that the writers continue to write Vegeta as an unlikeable dickhead that has completely regressed as a character. Go watch the final eps of the Buu saga, and then watch this. Absolutely disgraceful what they've done to him in this show.

"Wah wah, I'm not helping Kakarot! WAH!"

Ffs Vegeta, Freeza happily donated his energy. FREEZA.

[Kataphrut]

How much longer will this tournament go for I wonder? We didn't have any knockouts and according to Grand Priest, the clock isn't even halfway down. Admittedly, passage of time in this tournament is utter bullshit, but still.

After this, I don't want to go back to the format of the previous episodes. I hope reaching the climax means we have...maybe five or six episodes left? Any more and they'll start trying my patience.

[Artorias]

See everyone seems to really like this episode but then in a couple episodes time there will be an episode that will just be mediocre and then people will turn on the series again and complain about it and how the show does so much wrong.

But they'd be right. The series DOES do a LOT wrong. Just because we got a fantastic two-parter doesn't magically mean this show still isn't a steaming pile of mediocrity on the whole. The show has yet to string together more than three good episodes (37, 38, and 39 imo were all great in a row).

Well, I liked the Kaioken x20 fight more than the fight in the new form. Maybe I'll have to watch again.

It's as good as the average DBZ episode, a nice fight going on but not much exactly happens, it's just Goku having his butt handed for 40 minutes. I like episodes where things happen.

Then a definitely recommend you don't watch this one show called Dragon Ball Z. You definitely won't like it if that's how you feel.

Jiren is the worst most boring character in Dragon Ball history.

How and why can anyone like him? Please explain to me.

Yea, I don't understand the hype either, honestly. He makes Hit look like the most complex character in all of fiction. Just a massive bore. Give us something, ANYTHING other than stupid one liners that are trying way to hard to sound "epic".

[Arg]

Correct me if I'm wrong but besides 17 & 18 shouldn't Goku crippled universe 7 with his spirit bomb? I could sworn when people give up energy for the spirit bomb they're completely drained or am I not remembering correctly. Did you see the size of that thing? It didn't look like Goku used energy from anyone besides U7 but I guess that's just nitpicking.

Seems like Freeza is going to be the new "android arc vegeta" and I'm pretty sure Freeza took Goku away to give him some of his ki like Baku did to him on Namek.

NEP

I'm glad Hit is getting his time to shine. Jirens threat seemed to take him out of the spotlight making people forget how much a threat Hit really is. He still is the most powerful in his universe, been around for ages and have limitless potential with the ability to improve instantly. He'll he surpassed Blue kkx10 Goku in moments. Personally I think if anyone had the ability to challenge Jiren, its Hit. However strong Jiren is, it'll make Hit stronger.


Also a quick nod to Goku new form! Faster than light! So powerful it shock the whole void world and the best part was the martial arts moves used instead of just punching.

Pretty sure freeza is gonna donate some energy, the namek reference including goku donating his energy to him. Would also have been great to see freeza intervene when toppo decided they'd gang up on goku.

[Cetra]

So the writers forgot to disqualify Goku for flying during pushing the Divine Genkidama.

Other than that, brilliant.

[Artorias]

Episode 110 did something this series hasn't done since the original Dragon Ball: It actually made the fighting feel more impressive in terms of feats than previous fights. For the first time, I actually felt that the characters were moving and fighting faster and stronger than any previous arc, and that they were on a whole new level. Prior to this, we simply took the side characters' words for it that a Cell saga level punch was somehow stronger than a Saiyan saga level punch, even though there was literally zero visual indication of any difference.

[Jigurashi]

I absolutely LOVED how, for once in this franchise, the character who got the power up didn't just start mopping the floor with the other guy. We all know that trope, one character gets his ass whooped, transforms, does badass walk/stare, proceeds to beat the shit out of the other guy. It's tired and played out. It was so refreshing to see that the transformation was essentially a temporary boost that simply allowed Goku to be ON PAR with Jiren.

My only real gripe with this episode was the pacing during the gathering of the energy for the Spirit Bomb was a bit awkward and rushed, and that the writers continue to write Vegeta as an unlikeable dickhead that has completely regressed as a character. Go watch the final eps of the Buu saga, and then watch this. Absolutely disgraceful what they've done to him in this show.

"Wah wah, I'm not helping Kakarot! WAH!"

Ffs Vegeta, Freeza happily donated his energy. FREEZA.

What about the fact SSJ3, SSG, SSB, and SSBKK failing to mop the floor with its opponent?

[darzap]

So the writers forgot to disqualify Goku for flying during pushing the Divine Genkidama.

Other than that, brilliant.

Flying is not forbidden, it's made impossible to use the "lighter than air"-flying method (notably characters with wings are able to fly).

I don't think Goku was flying anyway. I think he was held in the air by the kickback of pushing the Genkidama, similar to how the kickback of Ki attacks was used before to avoid elimination.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Ribrainne is awesome. Loved every moment of her. The perfect entertainment package. Oonishi Ryou animating her part made it only better. Looking forward to see more of her. Other than that, #109 was just about okay. The second half was a drag and I didn't find it much engaging.

#110 was good. The first half was again inconsistently paced with the Genki dama stuff going on for longer than I had expected, but the second half more than made up for it. Gokuu's entrance was dope and surprisingly Beers was well written for once. Tate hit out of the park and it is one of his best works for the franchise. The MVP of the SP hands down.

Some minor issues like the unfitting insert song and the music that played during the climax portion, Vegeta being terribly written as usual and the overall pacing, but it was a satisfying experience for the most part. Props to the staff involved. They delivered. I had given up on the story elements of this arc a long time ago, so didn't care for the little details.

[MajinMan]

Top tier fight. I had fun. I love the new form(?). Is it even a new form? Who cares, it was cool. This special was just "awesome." I can't really think of anything else to say about it. I'd probably give it a 9.5/10 or something.

[Cetra]

Flying is not forbidden, it's made impossible to use the "lighter than air"-flying method (notably characters with wings are able to fly).

I don't think Goku was flying anyway. I think he was held in the air by the kickback of pushing the Genkidama, similar to how the kickback of Ki attacks was used before to avoid elimination.

Those are all made-up explanations or do you think I was not watching to see if it was the "kickback". I know wings are allowed but not only was the kickback not the reason because there were enough shots when it was not possible but also were there enough moments when he and Jiren definitely were flying. That has nothing to do with "only the lighter than air"-method, etc. It destroys the whole point of the rule.

[mAcChaos]

Crunchy Roll crashed the instant the episode came out. Thank God I finally got to watch it after like 3 hours of trying to load the site. It was totally worth it. JIREN

I think Vegeta didn't give his energy for some reason that'll be spelled out later. The writers would have to know the difference between Vegeta and Freeza.

[GodVegetto91]

So after watching the episodes several times problem-free, now all of a sudden the video's are failing me, suddenly stopping mid watching, buffering and not loading anymore, i tried to restart the episode a couple of times, but to no avail, it's seriously starting to piss me off! I'm not paying money for this! Does anyone else experience these issues with Crunchyrolls videos?

I pay money for good service! Not bad service where the videos stop mid sentence.

[Cetra]

The best part of the two episodes for me was when Goku said he might use his wish for his family or a strong enemy. Not just a strong enemy but he also mentioned Chichi and his sons.