Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

[Cipher]

I do have to say, I like the implication that Hit is coming in at the end ready to kill. It'll let them cut loose with his more fun abilities, and it makes perfect sense from a pragmatist standpoint. Having witnessed Jiren's power, he knows the only way Universe 6 can survive is if Jiren is out of the way, even if he has to disqualify himself to make it happen.

(Damned if you do, damned if you don't, because as far as we know there's no way for Universe 6 to stand up to other powerhouses like Vegeta, Freeza and Toppo when he's gone, but oh well.)

[RedHeat]

Why did RiBrianne blush at Jiren behind that rock?

[Cipher]

Why did RiBrianne blush at Jiren behind that rock?

Because she wants him to like her and she's a silly character?

[Doctor.]

I do have to say, I like the implication that Hit is coming in at the end ready to kill. It'll let them cut loose with his more fun abilities, and it makes perfect sense from a pragmatist standpoint. Having witnessed Jiren's power, he knows the only way Universe 6 can survive is if Jiren is out of the way, even if he has to disqualify himself to make it happen.

(Damned if you do, damned if you don't, because as far as we know there's no way for Universe 6 to stand up to other powerhouses like Vegeta, Freeza and Toppo when he's gone, but oh well.)

Wait until Caulifla tingles ultra instinct for herself.

[CJStriker_CBR]

Do people hate Ribrianne because they're embarrassed to admit they're watching a show with Ribrianne in it?

Because Ribrianne wouldn't even crack the top five for me in terms of embarrassing things in Dragon Ball, and her fight and comedy beats this episode were solid.

Some fragile sense of masculinity here.

Oh, you are absolutely on point here. I was going to say the same thing.

Very good points and I think it goes along another path as well into over seriousness with looking at Dragonball .

You can like Dragon ball for a serious fights and character moments but it seems too many fans only want to see many characters as that and get upset when they're not acting serious when they think they should be. I have seen this coming around again's Goku as well a lot lately.

The problem is I don't get why even goofy or even a decent amount of it is so offensive when nearly every character at times does it and it's a staple of the series. We seem to forget as fans that has been a staple of the series for a long time and seem to push it off to the side or in this case use an escape goat character to say if only this character was gone things would be better.

The truth is that many characters can be both and still be great and even though you haven't seen all that you have wanted to see from the character does not mean it is not coming. You need to given a new character time to develop and not put them off to the side just because it has not worked out by your view yet.

I believe fully that Ribrianne is going to keep getting better and better but like every other character before her she needs time so like those characters before her give her time, selling her down the road now it's extremely short minded and impatient for no really good reason .

Then if you still don't like the character go to another character, you have the freedom to do that like we have the freedom to like her for who she is!

[Hakaishin Liquir]

I wonder if Golden Freezer could do any better against Jiren?

He didn't seem too impressed or worried.

Frieza would get spanked 20x harder than goku.

I'm just glad it seems Hit is the one that's gonna job to jiren and not Vegeta.
As far as the episode goes, way to much talking and not enough fighting. 7/10

I doubt that Hit is going to get eliminated in the next episode.

Also, if Hit actually lands some hits on Jiren, then he's confirmed to be stronger than everyone in U7 besides Goku.

[Jigurashi]

I don't really find either bad and I enjoy Jiren more.

Blasphemy! that sentence doesnt make any sense at all.

It does with me good sir. I just enjoy his character more. Him being a major rival character is just a bonus. I like that he's a cool and stoic individual who doesn't speak much. He's a Grey, I'm pretty sure (not 100% sure) a characteristic of Greys are that they're mostly mute but are capable of speaking. It's a big reason I don't really have much of an issue with it. To me he's playing his part well. But if you don't like him that's fine too.

I do like that one Shida shot near the end of the special that made him look like a villain lol.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

Music was so on point. Sumitomo has been knocking it out of the park with the music in this arc.

Right long gone are the days of that annoying jingle!! Jiren walking and the the SSGSS fight the music was fantastic you could literally feel it! Then he whipped out some orchestral stuff too. Black arc was a step up but this arc he's found his rhythm.

This was my favourite piece of music in the episode. It sounds amazing and goes so well with the action.
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This'll probably go down as one of my favourite action scenes in Dragon Ball.

[Jigurashi]

Pretty good special.

Ribrianne is a joke character that was probably created to be hated by the audience. The amount of ridiculous facial expressions she got in this episodes made me laugh. Goku's kick and Vegeta's blast to her were hilarious. I'm glad she wasn't eliminated, I hope she stays till the end.

Lol Goku wants to wish something for Chichi or his sons. And people say he doesn't care about his family.

Dyspo looked pretty weird in some shots, same with Jiren and Gohan, but besides that, the episode was very well animated.

I liked how we pretty much saw every single fighter that didn't get erased yet in this special.

Freeza at the end looked great.

Goku's transformation and his fight with Jiren were great for the most part, but I wasn't a huge fan of the song they used in it.

The new ending is AWESOME! Definitely in my top 3! Great song, and fantastic visuals.

People will continue to say this no matter what even though Super actually has several moments throughout its run of him showing care for others. But some fans have this warped view that he apparently cares about nobody.

On another note, all of the new soundtracks were great. I especially love the insert song, and the like 3 songs dedicated to Jiren.

Why did RiBrianne blush at Jiren behind that rock?

Cause she has fallen for the Grey.

I wonder if Golden Freezer could do any better against Jiren?

He didn't seem too impressed or worried.

Frieza would get spanked 20x harder than goku.

I'm just glad it seems Hit is the one that's gonna job to jiren and not Vegeta.
As far as the episode goes, way to much talking and not enough fighting. 7/10

I doubt that Hit is going to get eliminated in the next episode.

Also, if Hit actually lands some hits on Jiren, then he's confirmed to be stronger than everyone in U7 besides Goku.

Eh. Not necessarily. SSB Goku was trading punches and even pushed Jiren back at one point, despite the fact that we know SSB Goku is absolute shit to Jiren. We'd need to know the context of him laying a hit on Jiren, as we don't know how suppressed he'll be against Hitto.

[The gr]

A litlle late for the party since i watched this episode 3 times so i think i have a full opinion

Episode 109[spoiler]The episode starts out with ribrianne vs goku,ribrianne is kinda annoying with the love stuff,she is like the ginyu force,a joke that was funny at first then it got really boring and it overstayed it welcome but i have to admit this battle was ok sucks that goku was in his base form,so much for the hyped U2 character .Only one joke was funny,when ribrianne thougth jiren fell in love,her voice was cute there so props for the VA,is ribrianne the worst? no is just that she is a one note parody character which I'm not a fan of,i just hope she gets better power wise and character wise.

Now jiren steps in,damn the scene with vermoud talking with him was well directed along with goku vs jiren and let me tell you this battle was intense,it really felt like a duel of two of the strongest being of the multiverse,the music was great and the animation was top notch along with having a sense of danger with the dialogue perfectly capturing it and goku using all of his form was cool sucks that he didn't use SS3

Now lets talk about the genkidama,i really liked the music when goku gather energy for the bomb,it was really epic but i felt this section kinda dragged and fuck vegeta for not lending energy where freeza did it,vegeta is awful here,the only good thing i could say about him is how he kicked brianne

It was a neat how jiren let goku to charge this attack,this character is not that great but i appreciate his code of honor even if its overdone,overall this episode was great with only a couple of complaints here and there[/spoiler]Episode 110[spoiler]So the episode begin with the intense struggle,some talking pass by until jiren detonated the genkidama,the scene where everyone thougth goku died was really good along with every universe to battle against jiren even if they saw how strong he is,my favorite scene in this special as well beerus reaction was also good

Now goku rises with ultra instinct,this form look so cool and finally we had an insert song for super,through the ammount of dialogue ruined the insert song

The battle continues, with goku pushing jiren and the way how it ended was good with hit ,man i loved this character and the ending was ominous with freeza[/spoiler]These episode were really good,i enjoyed them,goku vs jiren is one of the best battle in the franchise

[ssjgbunnyman]

I'm very certain this has been pointed out several times on this thread but I just love how Ultra Instinct is achieved almost exactly mirrors how SSJ was achieved in Z. This special was just what we needed after a string of less than average episodes. Jiren was exactly the monster I knew he'd be, I mean, tanking every form of Ssj Goku threw at him without losing a step? I'm so curious as to how anyone beside a GoD could be so strong but at least it was hinted he did not achieve such power naturally like Goku and Vegeta. Speaking of the former, HOLY SHIT what a spectacle! There wasn't a single thing about that short fight that was terrible besides that fact that it was so short!! The way Goku just brushed off Toppo's Justice Flash like nothing. This was indisputably the best handled transformation in Super to date. Kudos to everyone involved in the making of this special, they've definitely earned thier keep.

[The gr]

I do have to say, I like the implication that Hit is coming in at the end ready to kill. It'll let them cut loose with his more fun abilities, and it makes perfect sense from a pragmatist standpoint. Having witnessed Jiren's power, he knows the only way Universe 6 can survive is if Jiren is out of the way, even if he has to disqualify himself to make it happen.

(Damned if you do, damned if you don't, because as far as we know there's no way for Universe 6 to stand up to other powerhouses like Vegeta, Freeza and Toppo when he's gone, but oh well.)

Wait until Caulifla tingles ultra instinct for herself.

This joke will never get old at this point she is a meme

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

Like the Ultra Instinct itself, I don't need to shout or be fanatic about my love for these two episodes.

I calmly say that this was one of the best things out of the DB franchise to date for me.

[ekrolo2]

God, I hope the promo art for Limit Breaker where it's got the KK aura doesn't mean Goku's gonna combine shit again. KK returning was already a mistake and with Ultra Instinct KKX2,3,4,10,20,...

[Doctor.]

God, I hope the promo art for Limit Breaker where it's got the KK aura doesn't mean Goku's gonna combine shit again. KK returning was already a mistake and with Ultra Instinct KKX2,3,4,10,20,...

It was probably just an early stage where they didn't quite decide what color his aura was gonna be; he doesn't have his shirt ripped either.

[dbzfan7]

God, I hope the promo art for Limit Breaker where it's got the KK aura doesn't mean Goku's gonna combine shit again. KK returning was already a mistake and with Ultra Instinct KKX2,3,4,10,20,...

It was probably just an early stage where they didn't quite decide what color his aura was gonna be; he doesn't have his shirt ripped either.

I dunno they did it once they could do it again...

Hey Doc where's your episode breakdown? Haven't heard ya breakdown the good, mixed, bad, etc. Wanna breakdown your full thoughts on the episode?

[Turambar]

Finally able to watch! Jiren v Goku Part 1 was amazingly choreographed and animated. Jiren is incredible, but cocky. Definitely can't wait until he is brought down a notch.

Then came what is now my favorite form, Ultra Instinct Goku! There wasn't as much choreography during this section, but what we did get showed off the power of beings that have surpassed the gods quite nicely.

Overall, the dialog was good, the fighting was good, and the art and animation rarely dipped. This was easily a 9/10 between the two episodes, and we got a moment that will be talked about for years, right along side moments like the first SSJ transformation and SSJ2 Gohan.

Oh oh...And I laughed out loud at all of the Ribrianne stuff. The cocoon of love sent me over the top. Ha ha.

[Torturephile]

I liked Ribrianne from her first appearance up until her fight with Vegeta, and I am on the camp that likes the Kamikaze Fireballs episode. However, her parroting the word love again and again is what made me get tired of her, and her matchup with Goku felt odd while the fight was OK, nothing special. I am fully aware that parodying is her purpose, but it doesn't mean I have to enjoy it. Still, at least she has personality unlike Jiren, and her designs are something I have no issue with. She is still a highlight of this arc, and is the MVP of her universe unlike Nigrisshi, who got built up as U3's but we know what happened to him. Kakunsa is still my favorite Fireball, though.

Why did RiBrianne blush at Jiren behind that rock?

Because she wants him to like her and she's a silly character?

Even fat girls need love.

[gohan_black]

some parts of part 2 had terrible animation

[Baggie_Saiyan]

God, I hope the promo art for Limit Breaker where it's got the KK aura doesn't mean Goku's gonna combine shit again. KK returning was already a mistake and with Ultra Instinct KKX2,3,4,10,20,...

It was probably just an early stage where they didn't quite decide what color his aura was gonna be; he doesn't have his shirt ripped either.

The tournament isn't over yet. Pretty sure when Goku unlocks Ultra Instinct again he'll have ripped shirt, (presumably this happens in the Kale episode, given the episode title and the "but..." plus the fact Takahashi is AS on that too).