Opinions on Jiren?

[Torturephile]

Jiren wants the super dragon balls to wish for a personality.

I just found out he likes cumbia music.

[Kataphrut]

Honestly, I think Jiren works for his intended role.

We've never had a character that just doesn't have any elaborate schemes or ambitious goals, or even a major drive to do anything beyond what's necessary, and yet is such a big problem for our heroes. Jiren didn't even bother going after Goku until Belmod told him to.

This guy is less a superhero and more of a soldier who does things by necessity. He's no-nonsense and doesn't care about giving his life story or exchanging banter with his foes. He's there to ensure his Universe's survival when his power is needed. We even see that Goku becomes as stoic and quiet warrior when he attains the Ultra Instinct and finally starts to fight more evenly with Jiren.

That is a good point. It's why I'm hesitant to criticise him for seeming stoic and bland because as far as I know, that's exactly the point. He sticks out like a sore thumb because he's in a series known for colourful villains, but even then there's nothing wrong with doing something different. After all, King Piccolo, Frieza, Cell and the absorbed forms of Super Buu all had very similar personalities when you think about it.

Super has had a good run with unique kinds of villains each arc and at the end of the day, Jiren isn't even the "villain" of this arc, just the main obstacle of the tournament. If anything the villain would be Zeno or the Grand Priest, seeing as they instigated the conflict.

[BlueBasilisk]

Jiren really reminds me of Pikkon. Strong, no-nonsense kind of guy who's just there to do what he does. He'll probably defrost as the arc goes on and Goku rouses his fighting spirit.

Toppo saying he's after the Super Dragon Balls has me curious. The others are there to protect the universe but Jiren wants the wish. What could a guy like that possibly want? Finding out his motivation there will bring some extra depth to the character.

[Boku no Hitto]

Jiren is any beings worst nightmare. He's not a demon king bent on world dominastion, he not an overly confident saiyan, he's not a sadistic emperor who has spent to long sitting on his laurels, he's not a mad scientist, he's not a conceited android, he not a blood thirsty killer, he's not a chaotic destroyer, not a giant monster, not a vengence seeking tuffle, a bored God of Destruction, a mad God of Creation or even honorable warrior who just happens to be on the oppasite side.

He's an uncareing, unreactive force who's power, skill and awairness utterly suppasses your own with no weaknessess and he's one goal is your defeat. He is in a way the embodyment not only of power but also the greatest fear of all liveing things, he is totally alien and detached from everything you have ever faced befor, he is the unknown. And the worst part... even when you have tapped into a new power, when others looked at you the same way they did him, when your burning brighter then you ever have befor.....he's not afraid, he's not in awe, hell he dosen't even seem all that impressed. All he's got to say to you after all that is that your "intreasting".

Thats why I like Jiren so far.

I really like how you summed this up. There's something unnerving in a series full of characters ready to blow a gasket when even slightly challenged.

[Boku no Hitto]

Jiren is any beings worst nightmare. He's not a demon king bent on world dominastion, he not an overly confident saiyan, he's not a sadistic emperor who has spent to long sitting on his laurels, he's not a mad scientist, he's not a conceited android, he not a blood thirsty killer, he's not a chaotic destroyer, not a giant monster, not a vengence seeking tuffle, a bored God of Destruction, a mad God of Creation or even honorable warrior who just happens to be on the oppasite side.

He's an uncareing, unreactive force who's power, skill and awairness utterly suppasses your own with no weaknessess and he's one goal is your defeat. He is in a way the embodyment not only of power but also the greatest fear of all liveing things, he is totally alien and detached from everything you have ever faced befor, he is the unknown. And the worst part... even when you have tapped into a new power, when others looked at you the same way they did him, when your burning brighter then you ever have befor.....he's not afraid, he's not in awe, hell he dosen't even seem all that impressed. All he's got to say to you after all that is that your "intreasting".

Thats why I like Jiren so far.

I really like how you summed this up. There's something unnerving in a series full of characters ready to blow a gasket when even slightly challenged to have an antagonist beat you show his respect and even when you comeback he readily walks up for round two. Even keeps his comrades at bay to handle thinga himself. It just doesn't really happen in dragon ball.

[MaskedRider]

Jiren wants the super dragon balls to wish for a personality.

I just found out he likes cumbia music.

Can Gohan Blanco beat him in DDR?

[Jigurashi]

Jiren is any beings worst nightmare. He's not a demon king bent on world dominastion, he not an overly confident saiyan, he's not a sadistic emperor who has spent to long sitting on his laurels, he's not a mad scientist, he's not a conceited android, he not a blood thirsty killer, he's not a chaotic destroyer, not a giant monster, not a vengence seeking tuffle, a bored God of Destruction, a mad God of Creation or even honorable warrior who just happens to be on the oppasite side.

He's an uncareing, unreactive force who's power, skill and awairness utterly suppasses your own with no weaknessess and he's one goal is your defeat. He is in a way the embodyment not only of power but also the greatest fear of all liveing things, he is totally alien and detached from everything you have ever faced befor, he is the unknown. And the worst part... even when you have tapped into a new power, when others looked at you the same way they did him, when your burning brighter then you ever have befor.....he's not afraid, he's not in awe, hell he dosen't even seem all that impressed. All he's got to say to you after all that is that your "intreasting".

Thats why I like Jiren so far.

I really like how you summed this up. There's something unnerving in a series full of characters ready to blow a gasket when even slightly challenged to have an antagonist beat you show his respect and even when you comeback he readily walks up for round two. Even keeps his comrades at bay to handle thinga himself. It just doesn't really happen in dragon ball.

It's part of why I like him as well. There are these subtle things to his stoic personality that I love.

[Kastex]

you guys just don't get it. i suppose there isn't anything wrong with thinking that jiren is boring as an antagonist and stuff like that, but you can't deny that he works as an antagonist.

we've never had a main antagonist like this in dragon ball z or super before. ever since the start of z, it's always been about transformations, but not this time. jiren is simply strong. sure, we don't have any backstory or exposition on him. this is not necessary at this time and it might never be. he's mysterious.

sure they could have done better with this character, and they should have, but it's not so bad.

[New_Guy]

I was at least expecting at least one signature attack of sorts by now or something. If the raging blast series was still relevant his only super would be full powered energy blast lol

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I was at least expecting at least one signature attack of sorts by now or something. If the raging blast series was still relevant his only super would be full powered energy blast lol

We did see one. When he shot a plethora of red lasers from his eyes.

[BrolyKale]

I don't like his design... other than that we don't know much about him, maybe if they showed us a flashback of his past and how he got that strong that'd be great.

[TheZFighter]

I have to say I like him a lot. I love the simplicity of his design, I like how he doesn't need to say much, and I like how strong they've made him.

[LowRyder2005]

I may understand the intrinsic coolness of the "strong, silent type", but with Jiren it looks like someone's designed him on Paint with just a tagline "super strong guy" in his biography. Cardboard box levels of depth and vanilla milk levels of blandness.

Like others said he's just a literal placeholder for "greatest random obstacle in the vastness of the multiverse"; yet even this definition has a - mostly undeserved - undeserved ennobling factor to it. I would't necessarily bet on Super adding depth to this.

I think he may be slightly autistic.

Maybe not slightly.

I'm not sure on who won between you and the Earthworm Jiren guy. You both gave this thread a purpose.

[Hawk9211]

It appears that most people dislike him,but I am still willing to give him a chance since he is kind of original.He might still have some interesting gimmick or techniques and if toppo is anything to go by he has some motive.

[Hugo Boss]

I like the mistery around Jiren. He may look bland and simple, but it’s still too soon to judge his character.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

Jiren's actually pretty unique among core antagonists. We've never gotten someone so stoic and aloof. Usually Dragon Ball's antagonists come with a few pronounced quirks and flourishes.

As Kaioshin said this episode, "He's strong. Plain and simple."

It's refreshing. I dig it. If it weren't a break from the norm, I'd feel differently.

The fights in episodes 109 and 110 are maybe the first time the series has convincingly sold me an escalation of power on a purely visual level since the Boo arc, as well.

I feel the exact same way. He's essentially a foe that Goku's been anticipating. No gimmicks. No evil ambitions. Just an unbelievably strong dude for Goku to take on.

Now if only he had a more interesting design.

[VegettoEX]

I think he may be slightly autistic.

Maybe not slightly.

This recent trend of "character I find boring may have autism" is a little bit ridiculous. Strive for something better. Use your words.

[Arugela]

Jiren really reminds me of Pikkon. Strong, no-nonsense kind of guy who's just there to do what he does. He'll probably defrost as the arc goes on and Goku rouses his fighting spirit.

Toppo saying he's after the Super Dragon Balls has me curious. The others are there to protect the universe but Jiren wants the wish. What could a guy like that possibly want? Finding out his motivation there will bring some extra depth to the character.

He could just want his family back. Or to reverse destruction in their universe. They all come from universes without dragon balls so this is more unusual and rare for them. They could want it for anything. Even just reviving one person.

The wishes these guys could be going for is a completely open book story writing wise.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Jiren's actually pretty unique among core antagonists. We've never gotten someone so stoic and aloof. Usually Dragon Ball's antagonists come with a few pronounced quirks and flourishes.

As Kaioshin said this episode, "He's strong. Plain and simple."

It's refreshing. I dig it. If it weren't a break from the norm, I'd feel differently.

The fights in episodes 109 and 110 are maybe the first time the series has convincingly sold me an escalation of power on a purely visual level since the Boo arc, as well.

I feel the exact same way. He's essentially a foe that Goku's been anticipating. No gimmicks. No evil ambitions. Just an unbelievably strong dude for Goku to take on.

Now if only he had a more interesting design.

I actually like it to be honest, it is simple and striking. I especially like his eyes, they're pretty intimating.

[Super_Divine_Genki]

I've never found Jiren boring, so I don't understand those comments. He's barely had any screen time until the latest two episodes, and has been intentionally reserved. Less is more sometimes. I like how he has near zero facial expression (which lends more to his character,) about anything that's happening, and hasn't boasted like almost every other character in DB history. His eyes have done most of the speaking. Works for me (so far).