Universe 7 have cheated?

[gohan_black]

db super writing is shit. goku was flying . he was in the air while launching the spirit bomb. ribrianne cheated as well with her wings. its not natural and she got this ability from out of the stage

[Timetraveller]

1) Goku was flying during the spirit bomb struggle. There's no way he could float that long.

2) Spectators giving Goku and Ribrianne their energy. If this isn't against the rules, then how much stronger would Jiren be if his universe gave him their energy? How far could they go without breaking the rules?

3) Roshi bringing a container to seal their opponents in them but Zeno said it was cool so we'll let that slide. What else could they have smuggled in? Magical tools that help them in battle? Senzu Beans?

Episodes 109 and 110 were cool as heck but they didn't put a lot of thought into the writing. Full of nonsensical decisions that require a bunch of fan headcanon to make sense. Goku wastes his time fighting against fodder when one kick of SSB was all it took to take out a full powered Ribrianne.

[Lord Beerus]

1) Goku was flying during the spirit bomb struggle. There's no way he could float that long.

2) Spectators giving Goku and Ribrianne their energy. If this isn't against the rules, then how much stronger would Jiren be if his universe gave him their energy? How far could they go without breaking the rules?

3) Roshi bringing a container to seal their opponents in them but Zeno said it was cool so we'll let that slide. What else could they have smuggled in? Magical tools that help them in battle? Senzu Beans?

Episodes 109 and 110 were cool as heck but they didn't put a lot of thought into the writing. Full of nonsensical decisions that require a bunch of fan headcanon to make sense. Goku wastes his time fighting against fodder when one kick of SSB was all it took to take out a full powered Ribrianne.

- Goku still floating during the Genki Dama struggle is a little bit of an incostency. I guess you can chalk that up to the force of which Goku was exerting to push the Genki Dama towards Jiren keeping him up in the air

- The other two complaints are barely anything to get stressed over. You yourself stated that Zeno allowed Roshi to use the container because is looked cool. That's all that matter Zeno, have a spectacle to behold. That's why the Zen Exhibition Match(es) happened... so that Zeno(s) could be entertained. Hell, this entire Tournament Of Power is only happening because of a flight of fancy that Zeno had after witnessing the Universe 6 and Universe 7 tournament.

[BlueBasilisk]

- Goku still floating during the Genki Dama struggle is a little bit of an incostency. I guess you can chalk that up to the force of which Goku was exerting to push the Genki Dama towards Jiren keeping him up in the air

It was actually shown to be this in the episode. Goku was standing on the ground when he fired the Spirit Bomb, got pushed into the air and was held there by the force he was exerting on it and the counter from Jiren. They not only showed the force pressing on the Spirit Bomb from both sides, but when it collapsed from the stress, you could see Goku's side dissipate and he dropped out of the air as soon as it was gone.

[gohan_black]

- Goku still floating during the Genki Dama struggle is a little bit of an incostency. I guess you can chalk that up to the force of which Goku was exerting to push the Genki Dama towards Jiren keeping him up in the air

It was actually shown to be this in the episode. Goku was standing on the ground when he fired the Spirit Bomb, got pushed into the air and was held there by the force he was exerting on it and the counter from Jiren. They not only showed the force pressing on the Spirit Bomb from both sides, but when it collapsed from the stress, you could see Goku's side dissipate and he dropped out of the air as soon as it was gone.

what about ribrianne flying? this isnt her natural wings and she got them from help from out of the stage

[BlueBasilisk]

- Goku still floating during the Genki Dama struggle is a little bit of an incostency. I guess you can chalk that up to the force of which Goku was exerting to push the Genki Dama towards Jiren keeping him up in the air

It was actually shown to be this in the episode. Goku was standing on the ground when he fired the Spirit Bomb, got pushed into the air and was held there by the force he was exerting on it and the counter from Jiren. They not only showed the force pressing on the Spirit Bomb from both sides, but when it collapsed from the stress, you could see Goku's side dissipate and he dropped out of the air as soon as it was gone.

what about ribrianne flying? this isnt her natural wings and she got them from help from out of the stage

They're still wings as part of a transformation and the Zeno and the Grand Priest didn't call a foul on it, so they're in the clear. As long as nobody is attacking from outside the stage they don't seem to care what kind of shenanigans go on as long as it's entertaining.

[Lord Beerus]

It was actually shown to be this in the episode. Goku was standing on the ground when he fired the Spirit Bomb, got pushed into the air and was held there by the force he was exerting on it and the counter from Jiren. They not only showed the force pressing on the Spirit Bomb from both sides, but when it collapsed from the stress, you could see Goku's side dissipate and he dropped out of the air as soon as it was gone.

what about ribrianne flying? this isnt her natural wings and she got them from help from out of the stage

They're still wings as part of a transformation and the Zeno and the Grand Priest didn't call a foul on it, so they're in the clear. As long as nobody is attacking from outside the stage they don't seem to care what kind of shenanigans go on as long as it's entertaining.

The power of love overcomes all obstacles.

[BlueBasilisk]

The power of love overcomes all obstacles.

Except Vegeta.

[Lord Beerus]

The power of love overcomes all obstacles.

Except Vegeta.

Is is wrong that I'm still holding out out hope for Ribiranne to kick Vegeta's ass? Even now? Because... I mean... that would just fucking amazing to watch. Not the fight itself, but the meltdown on the internet from Vegeta losing horribly to her.

[gohan_black]

It was actually shown to be this in the episode. Goku was standing on the ground when he fired the Spirit Bomb, got pushed into the air and was held there by the force he was exerting on it and the counter from Jiren. They not only showed the force pressing on the Spirit Bomb from both sides, but when it collapsed from the stress, you could see Goku's side dissipate and he dropped out of the air as soon as it was gone.

what about ribrianne flying? this isnt her natural wings and she got them from help from out of the stage

They're still wings as part of a transformation and the Zeno and the Grand Priest didn't call a foul on it, so they're in the clear. As long as nobody is attacking from outside the stage they don't seem to care what kind of shenanigans go on as long as it's entertaining.

thats exectly why dragon ball super writing is poor

[BlueBasilisk]

thats exectly why dragon ball super writing is poor

A fickle child doing something for his amusement acting like a fickle child who is doing something for his amusement is bad writing?

[gohan_black]

thats exectly why dragon ball super writing is poor

A fickle child doing something for his amusement acting like a fickle child who is doing something for his amusement is bad writing?

yes when the daishinkan is there. and hes smart enough to know the rules

[omaro34]

Zeno is the one who calls the shots. Zeno has proven time and time again that he has the mentality of a child. How can there be consistency in rules when it comes to a child that can wipe out universes in a blink of an eye the second things don't go his way?

No one is stupid enough to call him out on this either, or they will wind up just like Frost.

[GodKaio-Ken]

thats exectly why dragon ball super writing is poor

A fickle child doing something for his amusement acting like a fickle child who is doing something for his amusement is bad writing?

yes when the daishinkan is there. and hes smart enough to know the rules

It wasnt only because it was cool. Its because the jar was needed for the attack itself, since the jar is part of the attack like the talisman Beerus complaimed about its okay. Zeno liking it probably helped obviously as they do show that too.

[Timetraveller]

A fickle child doing something for his amusement acting like a fickle child who is doing something for his amusement is bad writing?

yes when the daishinkan is there. and hes smart enough to know the rules

It wasnt only because it was cool. Its because the jar was needed for the attack itself, since the jar is part of the attack like the talisman Beerus complaimed about its okay. Zeno liking it probably helped obviously as they do show that too.

The talismans were a ki attack. Roshi's jar was a physical item that was brought in.

[Arugela]

The rules in English only said no healing items and no weapons that are not techniques. None of this technically goes outside of that. The jar was an item but not a healing item. And it was part of technique. But it wasn't even a weapon unless you hit someone in the head with it(voiding the point if it broke) so that is not even hypothetically an issue.

I'm not sure about the batons. They are weapons but used as a technique. So I guess there is nothing wrong. They are not fighting with them. Outside interference was only mentioned to Frost and this does not seem to be the type of interferance they were refering too. I still think Frost just pissed of Grand priest specifically and he meant direct attack more than not. Plus did the batons act as an attack? I guess since the spirit bomb was not interference this clearly means nothing is wrong. Unless they state something in a later episode.

[Jigurashi]

Zeno doesnt care if Goku cheats. When he thought Goku was out you could see the little guy(s) rethinking their entire existence.

A lot ofthings in the special gets praised but seeing the Omni Kings straight up hesistate to officially eliminate Goku was great.