Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I thought DBS dropped out the top 10 or something given these reactions. Hey ho it's still there doing well. Amazing how people think it's gonna get "cancelled" when it's never dropped out the top ten, Pokémon constantly does yet how many episodes does that have?

OP should have been a warning last week but people still had high expectation for it. Smh.

I am done with this thread man. Shame shit every week. Bah.

[HeroR]

I think Super will get cancelled soon.

Yes, one of the move viewed anime each week, Toei's #1 money maker and Bandai's #2 will get canceled because ratings are lower.
It's not getting canceled.

But come on man this rating is almost insulting for a special that had 2 of the best episodes in Super. And one of them being in the TOP 5 episodes in the entire franchise.

For heavens sake this broke the internet and its the first time anything related to DB did it.

That bit is subjective.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Well, this is....disheartening. I wonder if this was in part because no OP aired that day. OP didn't have great ratings either but they were better than DB's. While I'd like for it to get a new timeslot, I'm pretty sure it won't be separated from OP and OP had that spot for years if I am not mistaken.

Because OP had more advertising than DBS for it's special, like way more, couldn't go a single day without ANN reported something based on it, meanwhile DBS had just NEPs and the same ad running in magazines that's it. Felt like DBS special had more advertising in the US! (With Toei & FUNi doing a pre show event etc). Logically if OP did low then people should have expected lower for DBS, and that's exactly what happened.

[DSB]

Yes, one of the move viewed anime each week, Toei's #1 money maker and Bandai's #2 will get canceled because ratings are lower.
It's not getting canceled.

But come on man this rating is almost insulting for a special that had 2 of the best episodes in Super. And one of them being in the TOP 5 episodes in the entire franchise.

For heavens sake this broke the internet and its the first time anything related to DB did it.

That bit is subjective.

You would be in the minority if you disagree. 110 was Better than anything else in Whole of Super and Buu saga combined.

It gave the vibes of OG SSj episode. That same thrill adn a great fight with great animation music and everything. Also a great plot. Goku did not beat someone with his new form [albeit the second time. But this was more impactful than against Beerus]

[HeroR]

You would be in the minority if you disagree. 110 was Better than anything else in Whole of Super and Buu saga combined.

It gave the vibes of OG SSj episode. That same thrill adn a great fight with great animation music and everything. Also a great plot. Goku did not beat someone with his new form [albeit the second time. But this was more impactful than against Beerus]

Did you take a poll, especially since the episode is recent so every is super hype. Especially with the "better than anything else in Whole of Super and Buu saga combined", which is an opinion not a fact.

That's nice, but that is still your opinion. And this wouldn't be the first time "Goku did not beat someone with his new form" even with Beerus since you're forgetting Super Saiyan 3 vs. Buu, both Fat and Kid Buu.

[DSB]

You would be in the minority if you disagree. 110 was Better than anything else in Whole of Super and Buu saga combined.

It gave the vibes of OG SSj episode. That same thrill adn a great fight with great animation music and everything. Also a great plot. Goku did not beat someone with his new form [albeit the second time. But this was more impactful than against Beerus]

Did you take a poll, especially since the episode is recent so every is super hype. Especially with the "better than anything else in Whole of Super and Buu saga combined", which is an opinion not a fact.

That's nice, but that is still your opinion. And this wouldn't be the first time "Goku did not beat someone with his new form" even with Beerus since you're forgetting Super Saiyan 3 vs. Buu, both Fat and Kid Buu.

Goku didnt want to beat Fat Buu with it. Kid Buu.. ok i will give you that.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

Look at the bright side. This special caused streaming websites to crash because of the amount of people that wanted to watch it. I legit spent an hour trying to get AnimeLab to work on my PS4 until I could finally watch the damn thing.

But yeah I do see the time slots changing soon. I highly doubt Super's getting cancelled. I have literally lost count of the amount of times I've popped into this thread and seen someone say that nonsense.

[Michsi]

Well, this is....disheartening. I wonder if this was in part because no OP aired that day. OP didn't have great ratings either but they were better than DB's. While I'd like for it to get a new timeslot, I'm pretty sure it won't be separated from OP and OP had that spot for years if I am not mistaken.

Because OP had more advertising than DBS for it's special, like way more, couldn't go a single day without ANN reported something based on it, meanwhile DBS had just NEPs and the same ad running in magazines that's it. Felt like DBS special had more advertising in the US! (With Toei & FUNi doing a pre show event etc). Logically if OP did low then people should have expected lower for DBS, and that's exactly what happened.

I think people expected it to do better because the DBS special was considered better overall compared to OP (allegedly).

I heard about streaming sites crashing, thought that was a really good sign.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Well, this is....disheartening. I wonder if this was in part because no OP aired that day. OP didn't have great ratings either but they were better than DB's. While I'd like for it to get a new timeslot, I'm pretty sure it won't be separated from OP and OP had that spot for years if I am not mistaken.

Because OP had more advertising than DBS for it's special, like way more, couldn't go a single day without ANN reported something based on it, meanwhile DBS had just NEPs and the same ad running in magazines that's it. Felt like DBS special had more advertising in the US! (With Toei & FUNi doing a pre show event etc). Logically if OP did low then people should have expected lower for DBS, and that's exactly what happened.

I think people expected it to do better because the DBS special was considered better overall compared to OP (allegedly).

I heard about streaming sites crashing, thought that was a really good sign.

A lot of people seem to forget though that people in Japan don't know whether an episode is good or not beforehand, it's airing there and then and that's why ratings are never indicative of the quality.

Yeah all 3 sites, CR FUNi and Daisuki all had server issues that night, I was fortunate in that the Daisuki mobile app was working for me! After 30 mins of it crashing lol.

[BlacXero]

Regardless of the rating this episode did extremely well. One evidence is google trend, if you don't believe it see the charts here:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... m%2F01hryy

[Shounen]

Maybe it's because there was no One Piece after (for the first time?).

[Kinokima]

Well, this is....disheartening. I wonder if this was in part because no OP aired that day. OP didn't have great ratings either but they were better than DB's. While I'd like for it to get a new timeslot, I'm pretty sure it won't be separated from OP and OP had that spot for years if I am not mistaken.

Again, it's due to Kamen Rider and Super Sentai now airing at the same time. OP's special got really high DVR ratings (we don't have Super's) and Super broke tons of streaming services. Everything is fine, it's probably more likely that Super Sentai and Kamen Rider will get moved again since they apparently took a big hit too.

That still means it's losing to competition though. I read somewhere that DVR numbers made things better for OP , but it still means a lot of people would rather watch something else when the episode airs. I'm not saying this will lead to cancellation or something like that, just that it's kinda sad to see that DB isn't pulling in anywhere near the numbers it used to. And yes, I am aware that the current socioeconimic landscape etc is also a factor, that every franchise is affected in a way, but still...

It doesn't mean they are watching something else it means they are doing something else (which could include watching another program). Think about the reason you DVR something.


One Piece special ratings were also low. I am sure Super's DVR ratings will make up for the lower rating too.


I don't think it was the content but unfortunately the dumb move of moving the Sentai shows at the same time. Even though their ratings were low too it still obviously took some ratings from One Piece and Dragon Ball. Hopefully this mistake will be rectified.


But if One Piece isn't in danger of going anywhere then I don't think Super is either. It's still in the top 10 and as long as merchandise sales are good. People don't need to be all doom & gloom.

[Draconic]

Are DVR ratings starting to come out again? I always found those to be just as important (if not more so) as the live ones to gauge interest in the show.

[FortuneSSJ]

A money maker like Dragon Ball Super won't be canceled by any means unless something big happens like Toriyama or Nozawa passing away, which may make them put the show on hiatus.
I wouldn't mind a time slot change, if that means we would get more blood.

[YonedgeHP]

time slot change, if that means we would get more blood.

In which hour would that be more likely to happen?

[emperior]

If this low rating means Super gets moved to a timeslot where it can afford to show more blood, then so be it. Didn't DBZ air on Wednesday nights?
Super could be moved to the time slot where Tiger Mask W was, or during Saturday nights in the slot where they aired the RoF extended version. Though I have no idea if something like that could happen.

[Mazingerdestro]

WHAT IS GOING ON??????
Why is super doing worse than usual?
Are these troll ratings????
New form+amazing animation+Hype=Worse?????

Why even make a special of them when they ignore that?

No joke, I am 100000% sure that if the special gets aired anywhere else the rating will be amazing.


WHAT a shitty audience.......They don't deserve the show.....

[Kinokima]

If this low rating means Super gets moved to a timeslot where it can afford to show more blood, then so be it. Didn't DBZ air on Wednesday nights?
Super could be moved to the time slot where Tiger Mask W was, or during Saturday nights in the slot where they aired the RoF extended version. Though I have no idea if something like that could happen.

There isn't really a lot of anime in prime time though. I think there was an early evening block at 5:00 PM Japan time. I am not even sure if that block even still exists or if DBS could air then. This is where shows like Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood or & Gundam 00 aired. Although while both were long neither were long running in the way Super & One Piece are.

And of course they are not going to put Super in a late night spot. It's a children's anime. Realistically the Sunday morning spot is the best slot for it. Again it looks like the fact that they moved the Sentai shows to compete against Super and One Piece. This was a really dumb move. It didn't help those Sentai shows and actually stole ratings (however slight) away from One Piece and Super. It is pretty obvious this affected the ratings. Not lack of blood or content.

[Bullza]

Regardless of the rating this episode did extremely well. One evidence is google trend, if you don't believe it see the charts here:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explor ... m%2F01hryy

Oh wow it did shoot up. Seeing the reaction around YouTube I guess it's understandable.

Someone who uploaded both episodes with Spanish subtitles got over 8 million views on that video so far.

[Lord Beerus]

Some what I've gathered so far, Fuji TV made the unbelievably catastrophic error of airing both Kamen Rider and Super Sentai in the same timeslot and at the same time lead to a ratings vacuum, which has not brought down the entire blocks ratings, but greatly affected Super's ratings share. Immensely affecting the potential viewership for one of Super's most anticipated episodes. And as long as that remains the case, the ratings for which Super will attain from this point on will be much below the average it used be. But regardless of that fact, Dragon Ball Super will still remain in the top ten of the most view TV shows in Japan.

Have I got that all right?