Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[emperior]

So all this time we've been discussing the ratings for a single region of Japan? I thought those were national rankings. What's the point in discussing Kanto only ratings? It makes no sense. And considering they cancelled Kai even though it was getting good ratings, I would say they don't care about them and only see how the merchandising and the franchise in general is doing.
Considering the amount of attention Super, and in particular this special, is getting worldwide, Super is going absolutely nowhere. Even when Toriyama will be finished with it they will just create a new show. Toei knows better than us just how big Dragon Ball is worldwide, and the creation of the DB Room and the introduction of a female Broly (Kale) shows that they care about the international audience too. They must also 100% know that 4 sites crashed for Super's special, and they regularly take down YouTube Super videos viewed by milions of people.

I suggest to rename this "Kanto TV Ratings" and/or to edit the first post to clarify we're talking about the ratings of a single Japan region.

[Kinokima]

Did the Sentai shows only move to compete against One Piece & Super in the Kanto region? Because that would also explain things.

Kanto is Tokyo so I do understand why those ratings are looked at. And low ratings in one region does bring the average down.

[Simere]

Kanto is focused on because that region is seen as being representative of the rest of Japan. That's my understanding, at least.

[Glen300]

Kanto region is about one-third of Japan's population FWIW.

However I also thought this entire time we were discussing national ratings

[Draconic]

I'm surprised people didn't already know about this. Yeah, the ratings posted are only for the Kanto region, but at the same time, those are considered the most representative of what the whole of Japan is watching. And this isn't just some internet thing created by anime fans, but actual national companies and such are usually focused on those as well.

The ratings we get are the most important ratings, even if they don't include 100% of the population.

What I find interesting, though, is how only now are we getting Hokkaido ratings. Are they, like, less accessible of something? I think for the sake of historical compiling, it would be cool to get some from all regions.
And also, One Piece had DVR ratings last week, even though those have been gone for well over a year and now seem to be gone again. What is up with them?

[SansrivaaL]

Snap.. people didnt know this thread was talking about one region? (as I'm part of the Kanto region)
If I'm not mistaken there are 8 regions in Japan.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Snap.. people didnt know this thread was talking about one region? (as I'm part of the Kanto region)
If I'm not mistaken there are 8 regions in Japan.

Kanto,Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh are all Japanese regions know of...

[Saikyo no Senshi]

And also, One Piece had DVR ratings last week, even though those have been gone for well over a year and now seem to be gone again. What is up with them?

There are 4 types of DVR ratings. Terrestrial Record Reservation, Terrestrial Record Viewing, Satellite Record Reservation and Satellite Record Viewing. The OP of this thread and people who used to post, posted the Terrestrial Record Reservation rankings which haven't been updated by the site since June 2016 for whatever reason. That's why no ratings have been posted since then.

However, Record Viewing or time shift have been consistently updated by the site and that is where OP DVR ratings come from. It gives a general idea at least, so you can always look that up if you are interested. Here's the source.

[Draconic]

And also, One Piece had DVR ratings last week, even though those have been gone for well over a year and now seem to be gone again. What is up with them?

There are 4 types of DVR ratings. Terrestrial Record Reservation, Terrestrial Record Viewing, Satellite Record Reservation and Satellite Record Viewing. The OP of this thread and people who used to post, posted the Terrestrial Record Reservation rankings which haven't been updated by the site since June 2016 for whatever reason. That's why no ratings have been posted since then.

However, Record Viewing or time shift have been consistently updated by the site and that is where OP DVR ratings come from. It gives a general idea at least, so you can always look that up if you are interested. Here's the source.

Thank you! Been waiting for an answer to this for quite a while.

[ArchedThunder]

And also, One Piece had DVR ratings last week, even though those have been gone for well over a year and now seem to be gone again. What is up with them?

There are 4 types of DVR ratings. Terrestrial Record Reservation, Terrestrial Record Viewing, Satellite Record Reservation and Satellite Record Viewing. The OP of this thread and people who used to post, posted the Terrestrial Record Reservation rankings which haven't been updated by the site since June 2016 for whatever reason. That's why no ratings have been posted since then.

However, Record Viewing or time shift have been consistently updated by the site and that is where OP DVR ratings come from. It gives a general idea at least, so you can always look that up if you are interested. Here's the source.

So what was the DVR rating for the Super special in the DVR rating type that the OP special was discussed with?

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Not out yet.

[Li'l Lemmy]

Kinda sick of seeing the same type of extreme replies every time Super gets a meh rating which is practically every week. Oh it's getting cancelled etc. I remember reading this here even 2 years ago lol. Yet 2 years later and here we are. And to the guy saying it's because of Jiren or whatever other character. That's not how ratings work. You can't predict the episode without watching it. It'll only affect the next few episodes. If anything the previous episodes would've contributed to this rating more than the current episode. And if you look carefully you'll see that DBS isn't the only one suffering from mismanagement. The one guy saying DB was always doing well with merchandise...have you any idea how much merchandise has risen with the emergence of DBS ? It's NOT getting canceled smdh.

I'm glad you're not the one in charge. Then Super would for sure be cancelled with those bad ideas.

Dragon Ball’s Son Goku is the number one hero for both Showa and Heisei eras. This speaks to the generation bridging popularity of Dragon Ball.
Even after decades. If anything he's the glue holding it all together.

The Jiren thing is just a meme about his insanely high power level...

+1 on Super not being about the fodder, wimpy, boring next generation, at least completely.

Do something new with them. Let the next generation rise up. It csn't always just be Goku Vegeta Goku Vegeta Goku Vegeta forever.

[Totamo]

Kinda sick of seeing the same type of extreme replies every time Super gets a meh rating which is practically every week. Oh it's getting cancelled etc. I remember reading this here even 2 years ago lol. Yet 2 years later and here we are. And to the guy saying it's because of Jiren or whatever other character. That's not how ratings work. You can't predict the episode without watching it. It'll only affect the next few episodes. If anything the previous episodes would've contributed to this rating more than the current episode. And if you look carefully you'll see that DBS isn't the only one suffering from mismanagement. The one guy saying DB was always doing well with merchandise...have you any idea how much merchandise has risen with the emergence of DBS ? It's NOT getting canceled smdh.

I'm glad you're not the one in charge. Then Super would for sure be cancelled with those bad ideas.

Dragon Ball’s Son Goku is the number one hero for both Showa and Heisei eras. This speaks to the generation bridging popularity of Dragon Ball.
Even after decades. If anything he's the glue holding it all together.

The Jiren thing is just a meme about his insanely high power level...

+1 on Super not being about the fodder, wimpy, boring next generation, at least completely.

Do something new with them. Let the next generation rise up. It csn't always just be Goku Vegeta Goku Vegeta Goku Vegeta forever.

Name one next generation shonen, that did not revolve around it, that was actually good.

Those 2 just happen to be the most popular characters in the show and not many people that I know of actually like the new gen.Its for the exact same reason people dislike the U6 saiyans, they get things too easily. Its what Boruto is doing, the latest next gen

[RedHeat]

The Jiren thing is just a meme about his insanely high power level...

+1 on Super not being about the fodder, wimpy, boring next generation, at least completely.

Do something new with them. Let the next generation rise up. It csn't always just be Goku Vegeta Goku Vegeta Goku Vegeta forever.

Name one next generation shonen, that did not revolve around it, that was actually good.

Those 2 just happen to be the most popular characters in the show and not many people that I know of actually like the new gen.Its for the exact same reason people dislike the U6 saiyans, they get things too easily. Its what Boruto is doing, the latest next gen

The U6 Saiyans, sans maybe Cabba, are largely pretty popular if marketing is any indication.

But Dragon Ball, unlike Boruto, would probably die immediately if Goku/Vegeta were replaced.

[Michsi]

Do something new with them. Let the next generation rise up. It csn't always just be Goku Vegeta Goku Vegeta Goku Vegeta forever.

Name one next generation shonen, that did not revolve around it, that was actually good.

Those 2 just happen to be the most popular characters in the show and not many people that I know of actually like the new gen.Its for the exact same reason people dislike the U6 saiyans, they get things too easily. Its what Boruto is doing, the latest next gen

The U6 Saiyans, sans maybe Cabba, are largely pretty popular if marketing is any indication.

But Dragon Ball, unlike Boruto, would probably die immediately if Goku/Vegeta were replaced.

I've always believed that you can make a good story out of anything, it all comes down to execution. There was a time when I could not have ever imagined anybody else except Bruce Wayne as Batman, but then Batman Beyond happened and it did really well if memory serves. Bruce Wayne is still the Batman, but the point still stands.
Having said that - no, I do not want the cast replaced. I'm already worried about the approaching EOZ period in which Krillin has grey hair.

[Kinokima]

Personally it's the family aspect of DB that I love the most. I don't want them to move on from the older generation at all but that doesn't mean they need to exclude the new generation either.

But I expect they focus on the characters they do because they are popular. If we are talking about ratings and that they should focus on a new generation to improve ratings well really you are only going with your own personal bias. It's not like you did any market research.

[SansrivaaL]

Its never a good idea to pull a next gen thing, just look at Boruto.
Kira in GSD wasnt supposed to come back but because the fans didnt like it they put him back in the series and made him the main character on the 2nd cour till the end.
Major manga was selling like crazy when Goro was still the MC but after the next gen thing the sales cant compare to how it was before.
Pokemon played it smart and never changed the 2 main characters Ash and Pikachu and look how popular it still is compared to Digimon who kept changing main characters.
Its even more of a challenge to change MC's here and pull a next gen thing because Goku is very loved by fans of DB, the author himself trying it and realizing it cant work speaks volumes.

[precita]

Trunks and Goten have existed since the 90's. They're not "new" characters. You can't call characters introduced over 20 years ago to be new.

Expecting some focus on them especially if we move into EOZ and they're adults is expected.

[HeroR]

Trunks and Goten have existed since the 90's. They're not "new" characters. You can't call characters introduced over 20 years ago to be new.

Expecting some focus on them especially if we move into EOZ and they're adults is expected.

Gohan wasn’t new either, yet no one thought he was a particlarly good MC.

[precita]

Is that bait? Gohan was pretty much treated as the second main character in DBZ after Goku. Just because he didn't get the final win over Buu didn't make him not important.