How Vegeta could attain this new form

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Does Vegeta really have to get every single new form Goku does? Thank god he never got SSJ3, etc.

Super Saiyan Blue is fine but leave it at that.

I echo this sentiment. It felt like they just gave him SSGSS and that was it we still don't even know how he even attained it. Besides the new form won't even look good on Vegeta like SS3 an SSG, the fan art going around quite frankly looks bloody awful.

[Cabba]

He won't attain it. And to be frankly honest, he doesn't need it either. I really want this to be just a thing for Goku.

Yes he will! this was heavily implied in FnF movie/arc when whiss lectured both Goku and Vegeta but especially vegeta how he thinks too much, it was again heavily implied in the manga with guess who... [spoiler]VEGETA SAMA[/spoiler]
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Just like he mastered Blue. This is something that has been building up for a while now which included Vegeta in all the talks every time its been brought up, its not like Kaioken for example which is exclusive to Goku
I dont know whether its an agenda, jealousy or just plain dislike for a character but to say and more so affirm he wont be getting it is foolishness and dare i say plain ignorance

Besides the new form won't even look good on Vegeta like SS3 an SSG, the fan art going around quite frankly looks bloody awful.

Everyone said this about SSG Vegeta, yet it looked Godly on him (pun intended) when in debuted on the manga
and Selfish Doctrine looks pretty damn good on this Vegeta render imo
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Also SS3 Goku looks like arse in super since they cant dedicate much of the animation budget on it

[Olympian]

Why not? Let`s call the new from "Under Pressure" since he`s always under Goku`s shadow.

[HeroR]

I don't get you guys. Moving body on its own is what Vegeta wants to achieve so badly. It's the whole point of training with Whis since the very beginning.

I was thinking this too. It was actually mentioned to Vegeta before Goku from what I recall and yet Goku still attains the form. So I don't think it is completely out of the question that Vegeta should be able to do this. Though it would be cool if he got a cool new form all on his own.

At the very least if Vegeta gets this or another form too that means more merchandise so it's only to their benefit to eventually give Vegeta some new form (that would hopefully look good as a figure). Though of course I am biased and want more Vegeta merchandise.

It wasn’t. They heard it at the same time.

[HeroR]

He won't attain it. And to be frankly honest, he doesn't need it either. I really want this to be just a thing for Goku.

Yes he will! this was heavily implied in FnF movie/arc when whiss lectured both Goku and Vegeta but especially vegeta how he thinks too much, it was again heavily implied in the manga with guess who... [spoiler]VEGETA SAMA[/spoiler]
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Just like he mastered Blue. This is something that has been building up for a while now which included Vegeta in all the talks every time its been brought up, its not like Kaioken for example which is exclusive to Goku
I dont know whether its an agenda, jealousy or just plain dislike for a character but to say and more so affirm he wont be getting it is foolishness and dare i say plain ignorance

Besides the new form won't even look good on Vegeta like SS3 an SSG, the fan art going around quite frankly looks bloody awful.

Everyone said this about SSG Vegeta, yet it looked Godly on him (pun intended) when in debuted on the manga
and Selfish Doctrine looks pretty damn good on this Vegeta render imo
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Also SS3 Goku looks like arse in super since they cant dedicate much of the animation budget on it

I personally thing Super Saiyan God looks hideous on Vegeta.

[Kinokima]

I don't get you guys. Moving body on its own is what Vegeta wants to achieve so badly. It's the whole point of training with Whis since the very beginning.

I was thinking this too. It was actually mentioned to Vegeta before Goku from what I recall and yet Goku still attains the form. So I don't think it is completely out of the question that Vegeta should be able to do this. Though it would be cool if he got a cool new form all on his own.

At the very least if Vegeta gets this or another form too that means more merchandise so it's only to their benefit to eventually give Vegeta some new form (that would hopefully look good as a figure). Though of course I am biased and want more Vegeta merchandise.

It wasn’t. They heard it at the same time.

No when Vegeta first asks Whis to train him Whis says if you learn this you can be stronger than even Goku...

Maybe that wasn't moving without thinking but something else. I need to go back and rewatch but it was definitely just Vegeta.

[HeroR]

No when Vegeta first asks Whis to train him Whis says if you learn this you can be stronger than even Goku...

Maybe that wasn't moving without thinking but something else. I need to go back and rewatch but it was definitely just Vegeta.

He was talking about ki control, not moving without thinking.

[Kinokima]

No when Vegeta first asks Whis to train him Whis says if you learn this you can be stronger than even Goku...

Maybe that wasn't moving without thinking but something else. I need to go back and rewatch but it was definitely just Vegeta.

He was talking about ki control, not moving without thinking.

Ok thanks my mistake in that case maybe Vegeta will get a new form/ability in relation to that. Not that I think Vegeta will be stronger than Goku (that's never going to happen) but I can't see Vegeta not gaining some type of new power up or ability that can be marketed.

[HeroR]

No when Vegeta first asks Whis to train him Whis says if you learn this you can be stronger than even Goku...

Maybe that wasn't moving without thinking but something else. I need to go back and rewatch but it was definitely just Vegeta.

He was talking about ki control, not moving without thinking.

Ok thanks my mistake in that case maybe Vegeta will get a new form/ability in relation to that. Not that I think Vegeta will be stronger than Goku (that's never going to happen) but I can't see Vegeta not gaining some type of new power up or ability that can be marketed.

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is more or less ki control.

[Kinokima]

He was talking about ki control, not moving without thinking.

Ok thanks my mistake in that case maybe Vegeta will get a new form/ability in relation to that. Not that I think Vegeta will be stronger than Goku (that's never going to happen) but I can't see Vegeta not gaining some type of new power up or ability that can be marketed.

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is more or less ki control.

Pfft well I still think he will get something new. Maybe not in this arc but eventually. It just wouldn't make sense from a marketing stand point if he doesn't.

Now I like the look of ultra instinct so he better get something that looks as cool as that.

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

Won’t lie, I’d like Vegeta to get Ultra Instinct, but I also respect him not wanting to follow Gokū’s footsteps all the time too.

If he gets UI, it’d be nice if it looked different on him. Like a different colored aura and eyes.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

He won't attain it. And to be frankly honest, he doesn't need it either. I really want this to be just a thing for Goku.

Yes he will! this was heavily implied in FnF movie/arc when whiss lectured both Goku and Vegeta but especially vegeta how he thinks too much, it was again heavily implied in the manga with guess who... [spoiler]VEGETA SAMA[/spoiler]
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Just like he mastered Blue. This is something that has been building up for a while now which included Vegeta in all the talks every time its been brought up, its not like Kaioken for example which is exclusive to Goku
I dont know whether its an agenda, jealousy or just plain dislike for a character but to say and more so affirm he wont be getting it is foolishness and dare i say plain ignorance

Besides the new form won't even look good on Vegeta like SS3 an SSG, the fan art going around quite frankly looks bloody awful.

Everyone said this about SSG Vegeta, yet it looked Godly on him (pun intended) when in debuted on the manga
and Selfish Doctrine looks pretty damn good on this Vegeta render imo
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Also SS3 Goku looks like arse in super since they cant dedicate much of the animation budget on it

I personally thing Super Saiyan God looks hideous on Vegeta.

The manga wasn't even in colour and yes I agree it still looked bad, skinny doesn't work with Vegeta and in colour SSG Vegeta would look so much worse. Toriyama specifically designed SSG for Goku this backed by the fact he made Goku's gi lighter as well as adding a subtle white trim under his boots, and the fact no one in anime has ever gotten or used SSG.

And this is where the holes of peoples "DBS is merchandise driven" comes in, if it were so then every Saiyan under the sun would be getting SSG/SSGSS it took well over 80 episodes to actually get a proper new form... But this is besides the point.

[HeroR]

Yes he will! this was heavily implied in FnF movie/arc when whiss lectured both Goku and Vegeta but especially vegeta how he thinks too much, it was again heavily implied in the manga with guess who... [spoiler]VEGETA SAMA[/spoiler]
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Just like he mastered Blue. This is something that has been building up for a while now which included Vegeta in all the talks every time its been brought up, its not like Kaioken for example which is exclusive to Goku
I dont know whether its an agenda, jealousy or just plain dislike for a character but to say and more so affirm he wont be getting it is foolishness and dare i say plain ignorance

Everyone said this about SSG Vegeta, yet it looked Godly on him (pun intended) when in debuted on the manga
and Selfish Doctrine looks pretty damn good on this Vegeta render imo
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Also SS3 Goku looks like arse in super since they cant dedicate much of the animation budget on it

I personally thing Super Saiyan God looks hideous on Vegeta.

The manga wasn't even in colour and yes I agree it still looked bad, skinny doesn't work with Vegeta and in colour SSG Vegeta would look so much worse. Toriyama specifically designed SSG for Goku this backed by the fact he made Goku's gi lighter as well as adding a subtle white trim under his boots, and the fact no one in anime has ever gotten or used SSG.

And this is where the holes of peoples "DBS is merchandise driven" comes in, if it were so then every Saiyan under the sun would be getting SSG/SSGSS it took well over 80 episodes to actually get a proper new form... But this is besides the point.

It is possible we might get Super Saiyan God in the anime given how Goku randomly used Super Saiyan God in this arc.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

It is possible we might get Super Saiyan God in the anime given how Goku randomly used Super Saiyan God in this arc.

For either the U6 Saiyans or Gohan? It's possible we do have the magic 6 number too, but I'm not sure what situation would arise for that to happen though, especially if using DBS logic about the other Saiyans in the ritual being drained. Plus the other Saiyans aren't guaranteed to absorb the SSG power up, the SSG ritual/power up seems to have too many flaws.

[HeroR]

It is possible we might get Super Saiyan God in the anime given how Goku randomly used Super Saiyan God in this arc.

For either the U6 Saiyans or Gohan? It's possible we do have the magic 6 number too, but I'm not sure what situation would arise for that to happen though, especially if using DBS logic about the other Saiyans in the ritual being drained. Plus the other Saiyans aren't guaranteed to absorb the SSG power up, the SSG ritual/power up seems to have too many flaws.

For Vegeta since they mimic Goku’s Super Saiyan God usage from the manga.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

It is possible we might get Super Saiyan God in the anime given how Goku randomly used Super Saiyan God in this arc.

For either the U6 Saiyans or Gohan? It's possible we do have the magic 6 number too, but I'm not sure what situation would arise for that to happen though, especially if using DBS logic about the other Saiyans in the ritual being drained. Plus the other Saiyans aren't guaranteed to absorb the SSG power up, the SSG ritual/power up seems to have too many flaws.

For Vegeta since they mimic Goku’s Super Saiyan God usage from the manga.

I doubt Yamamuro is gonna design SSG Vegeta a lesser transformation when there's already a plethora of designs he has too do, plus if Vegeta was going to use SSG he would have used it by now like Goku has.

[HeroR]

For either the U6 Saiyans or Gohan? It's possible we do have the magic 6 number too, but I'm not sure what situation would arise for that to happen though, especially if using DBS logic about the other Saiyans in the ritual being drained. Plus the other Saiyans aren't guaranteed to absorb the SSG power up, the SSG ritual/power up seems to have too many flaws.

For Vegeta since they mimic Goku’s Super Saiyan God usage from the manga.

I doubt Yamamuro is gonna design SSG Vegeta a lesser transformation when there's already a plethora of designs he has too do, plus if Vegeta was going to use SSG he would have used it by now like Goku has.

Maybe. But I wouldn’t be surprise if we did see Super Saiyan God Vegeta in the anime even if I don’t like the idea.

[Kinokima]

I do think Vegeta will get a new form/ability eventually whether it's instinct or something else is hard to say. I do think aesthetically instinct would look good on Vegeta but I am fine with him getting something completely his own too. Maybe I would even like that better.

I also think it's about time Gohan gets a new form/ability. Mystic is cool as it's written but look wise it's a bit boring. SSJ2 was still my favorite Gohan form look wise for him.

As for the new Saiyan there isn't a lot of merchandise already out for them so I don't think they need to go beyond what Goku, Vegeta, Gohan are at just yet. If people like them as characters should be enough to sell them. Although if there is a fusion of Kale/Caulifla that has potential to be something special.



Edit: Although I know Broly is popular (I was never a fan) but I do kind of wonder why they thought the form would be popular on a female Saiyan. It does go against expectations I'll give them that. But I really wonder how popular Kale merchandise is.

[Cabba]

No when Vegeta first asks Whis to train him Whis says if you learn this you can be stronger than even Goku...

Maybe that wasn't moving without thinking but something else. I need to go back and rewatch but it was definitely just Vegeta.

Yes i think you are confusing it with God Ki, Whiss told him at that time that if he learned a more efficient way to control his ki he could defeat anybody even goku, this was later followed up with Vegeta gaining the ability to sense God ki and Goku complimenting Vegetas progress once he joined them on Beerus planet

Pfft well I still think he will get something new. Maybe not in this arc but eventually. It just wouldn't make sense from a marketing stand point if he doesn't.
Now I like the look of ultra instinct so he better get something that looks as cool as that.

The most likely possibility is Vegeta will get ltra instinct as well, this was already hinted during FnF and again on the recent manga chapter 27, its the natural progression for his character

The manga wasn't even in colour and yes I agree it still looked bad, skinny doesn't work with Vegeta and in colour SSG Vegeta would look so much worse. Toriyama specifically designed SSG for Goku this backed by the fact he made Goku's gi lighter as well as adding a subtle white trim under his boots, and the fact no one in anime has ever gotten or used SSG.

I personally think Super Saiyan God looks hideous on Vegeta.

heh... that's the beauty of aesthetics, its very subjective, i personally think SSG Vegeta was one of the best Vegetas looks to date, besides whats to stop them for making some customization for the anime adaptation?
To each to its own i guess, but i personally think these amateur fan made concepts look legit, how good it looks is more dependent on the animation budget more than anything anyways
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I doubt Yamamuro is gonna design SSG Vegeta a lesser transformation when there's already a plethora of designs he has too do, plus if Vegeta was going to use SSG he would have used it by now like Goku has.

I dont know whether its gonna happen or not, but your explanation is not convincing so to speak. Goku stopped using SSG post BoG and they treated it like a legacy/obsolete transformation ever since in the anime
It was later brought back in the manga once with Goku and the second time with Vegeta as well. This was the first time its been brought up in the anime post BoG arc, if they are gonna treat it like a one time occasional fan service thing (akin to SS3) then yeah i agree its very unlikely they gonna bother with a Vegeta SSG debut in the anime, but if the transformation becomes common place i dont see why not.

More on topic, there is nothing especially tailored about ultra instinct, its basically base form with a especial aura and grey eyes. The picture i posted earlier already looked pretty damn good imo