"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[namekiansaiyan]

The Namekiandls are obviously just testing Gohan and Piccolo next episode before actually going full power.

Obviously? Okay, what giant, blaring clues make you deduce that? Is it their only appearances fighting in both this episode and the preview, that simply shows them having a 'Oh, we are FUCKED' faces while facing Gohan/Piccolo?

They came out of nowhere and blocked there attacks wouldn't you be surprised as well? You sound like you think they are going out on 10 seconds.

This face seems very confident.

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We also don't even see Pilina in the preview.

[Michsi]

This face seems very confident.

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That's just the stereotypical batshit crazy evil guy look, and all of those characters are depicted as confident. That rarely proves anything, particularly in DB case. The more cocky and drunk on your power you seem, the more the story enjoys beating it out of you.


I forgot if the new character that is supposed to be revealed has a "reveal" date or are we still stuck with waiting for 114 ?

[Simere]

Yes, to me that's the face of a mook who won't offer much resistance.

[namekiansaiyan]

This face seems very confident.

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That's just the stereotypical batshit crazy evil guy look, and all of those characters are depicted as confident. That rarely proves anything, particularly in DB case. The more cocky and drunk on your power you seem, the more the story enjoys beating it out of you.


I forgot if the new character that is supposed to be revealed has a "reveal" date or are we still stuck with waiting for 114 ?

Yes, to me that's the face of a mook who won't offer much resistance.

Keep thinking that way about every fighter and you will be very wrong. However I bet if a Saiyan made that face then they are going to be the best thing ever to both of you. Give me a good reason why I should not be excited about the Namekians. A good reason is not they have not been hyped or they are only fighting Piccolo.

There is no reveal date and it will just happen in episode 114 but it will be a dissapointment to me if it is anything that anyone has made a theory out of. This include a permanent Namekians which I hate the idea due to the loss of a character. If it is the Robots that would not be exciting at all. If it is anything to do with Ribrianne, Kale or Caulifla I will just stop caring about Super.

I am definitely getting annoyed with the characters that Toriyama and Toei have decided to focus on this arc.

[Simere]

Keep thinking that way about every fighter and you will be very wrong. However I bet if a Saiyan made that face then they are going to be the best thing ever to both of you. Give me a good reason why I should not be excited about the Namekians. A good reason is not they have not been hyped or they are only fighting Piccolo.

With over half the fighters eliminated now, almost all of whom I deemed worthless, it's not possible for me to be more wrong than I am right.

Isn't part of your excitement for them that they haven't been hyped? Aren't you interpreting that as them being held back as mysterious characters which means they must be important? The non-hype hype. Why's it a good reason when you do it?

[namekiansaiyan]

Keep thinking that way about every fighter and you will be very wrong. However I bet if a Saiyan made that face then they are going to be the best thing ever to both of you. Give me a good reason why I should not be excited about the Namekians. A good reason is not they have not been hyped or they are only fighting Piccolo.

With over half the fighters eliminated now, almost all of whom I deemed worthless, it's not possible for me to be more wrong than I am right.

Isn't part of your excitement for them that they haven't been hyped? Aren't you interpreting that as them being held back as mysterious characters which means they must be important? The non-hype hype. Why's it a good reason when you do it?

I said don't use non hype as a reason why i shouldn't be excited not why I should be excited. Wouldn't you expect a character who has been hidden from Universe 6 to be useful somehow?

I am excited but the timing of the reveal is confusing as we had Hit vs Jiren and now Cabba doing something. Whenever Universe 7 is fighting it has been mentioned in some magazine preview but this hasn't. They mentioned Gohan vs Botamo but don't mention Gohan and Piccolo vs 2 new Namekians.

I wouldn't be surprised if this fight gets interrupted somehow or it goes on for many episode but with no more than a 1 minute scene each episode

[Michsi]

Keep thinking that way about every fighter and you will be very wrong. However I bet if a Saiyan made that face then they are going to be the best thing ever to both of you. Give me a good reason why I should not be excited about the Namekians. A good reason is not they have not been hyped or they are only fighting Piccolo.

????Never been major saiyan fan, or even a minor one tbh, kinda think they're overused at this point. And I would've absolutely have thought the same thing if a saiyan had shown that face - it is not a hint towards them being a powerhouse, usually it's quite the contrary. I think it makes him interesting as a character, but nothing else for now.

You have every right to be excited about the namekians. I am. But at the same time, I don't expect them to blow me away either. From how things are presented now, it seems more like they were tailored to match Piccolo and Gohan as a duo, rather than specifically for Piccolo.

A namekian transformation would've been great, fantastic even, but the likelihood of that happening has always been close to zero. That's just how the story rolls and people are just used to Piccolo getting the shorter end of the stick. It's simply cynicism.

[JazzMazz]

The Namekiandls are obviously just testing Gohan and Piccolo next episode before actually going full power.

Obviously? Okay, what giant, blaring clues make you deduce that? Is it their only appearances fighting in both this episode and the preview, that simply shows them having a 'Oh, we are FUCKED' faces while facing Gohan/Piccolo?

They came out of nowhere and blocked there attacks wouldn't you be surprised as well? You sound like you think they are going out on 10 seconds.

This face seems very confident.

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We also don't even see Pilina in the preview.

For all the good that confidence is going to do him, we literally see him get blown away by Piccolo in the next scene of the preview.

Also, the face means next to nothing about their role. Its an awkward inbetween frame that has been widely distributed. Don't look too much into it.

[Simere]

I said don't use non hype as a reason why i shouldn't be excited not why I should be excited. Wouldn't you expect a character who has been hidden from Universe 6 to be useful somehow?

Well, I know, but why's it a good reason to be excited by non-hype, but a bad reason to be unexcited by non-hype?

I did expect them to be fairly important at first. But the way their initial mystery has progressed since then, and with their very unimpressive intros in the last episode, it doesn't seem to be heading that way to me. And, of course, it depends on your definition of important.

[namekiansaiyan]

Keep thinking that way about every fighter and you will be very wrong. However I bet if a Saiyan made that face then they are going to be the best thing ever to both of you. Give me a good reason why I should not be excited about the Namekians. A good reason is not they have not been hyped or they are only fighting Piccolo.

????Never been major saiyan fan, or even a minor one tbh, kinda think they're overused at this point. And I would've absolutely have thought the same thing if a saiyan had shown that face - it is not a hint towards them being a powerhouse, usually it's quite the contrary. I think it makes him interesting as a character, but nothing else for now.

You have every right to be excited about the namekians. I am. But at the same time, I don't expect them to blow me away either. From how things are presented now, it seems more like they were tailored to match Piccolo and Gohan as a duo, rather than specifically for Piccolo.

A namekian transformation would've been great, fantastic even, but the likelihood of that happening has always been close to zero. That's just how the story rolls and people are just used to Piccolo getting the shorter end of the stick. It's simply cynicism.

I am just asking for something like a new technique or some information that could improve Piccolo. I don't want them to be in just because Toriyama was too lazy to come up with a new design and for them to have a random fight with Gohan and Piccolo just so they can fight as a team. Toriyama could have made any other 2 fighters do that.

I want something different between Piccolo and these Namekians apart from skin colour just like with the other 2 races on each team. If Toriyama does not expand the Namekians I will never understand why.

I understand not doing it for the Yardrat and Tuffle in Universe 2 because they are in Universe 2 and there are no characters on team Universe 7 who are those races.

For all the good that confidence is going to do him, we literally see him get blown away by Piccolo in the next scene of the preview.

Also, the face means next to nothing about their role. Its an awkward inbetween frame that has been widely distributed. Don't look too much into it.

The preview is doing it's usual misleading thing and that is more likely this time as we don't see Pilina.

I said don't use non hype as a reason why i shouldn't be excited not why I should be excited. Wouldn't you expect a character who has been hidden from Universe 6 to be useful somehow?

Well, I know, but why's it a good reason to be excited by non-hype, but a bad reason to be unexcited by non-hype?

I did expect them to be fairly important at first. But the way their initial mystery has progressed since then, and with their very unimpressive intros in the last episode, it doesn't seem to be heading that way to me. And, of course, it depends on your definition of important.

What would have been a good introduction?

[JazzMazz]

Keep thinking that way about every fighter and you will be very wrong. However I bet if a Saiyan made that face then they are going to be the best thing ever to both of you. Give me a good reason why I should not be excited about the Namekians. A good reason is not they have not been hyped or they are only fighting Piccolo.

????Never been major saiyan fan, or even a minor one tbh, kinda think they're overused at this point. And I would've absolutely have thought the same thing if a saiyan had shown that face - it is not a hint towards them being a powerhouse, usually it's quite the contrary. I think it makes him interesting as a character, but nothing else for now.

You have every right to be excited about the namekians. I am. But at the same time, I don't expect them to blow me away either. From how things are presented now, it seems more like they were tailored to match Piccolo and Gohan as a duo, rather than specifically for Piccolo.

A namekian transformation would've been great, fantastic even, but the likelihood of that happening has always been close to zero. That's just how the story rolls and people are just used to Piccolo getting the shorter end of the stick. It's simply cynicism.

I am just asking for something like a new technique or some information that could improve Piccolo. I don't want them to be in just because Toriyama was too lazy to come up with a new design and for them to have a random fight with Gohan and Piccolo just so they can fight as a team. Toriyama could have made any other 2 fighters do that.

I want something different between Piccolo and these Namekians apart from skin colour just like with the other 2 races on each team. If Toriyama does not expand the Namekians I will never understand why.

I understand not doing it for the Yardrat and Tuffle in Universe 2 because they are in Universe 2 and there are no characters on team Universe 7 who are those races.

For all the good that confidence is going to do him, we literally see him get blown away by Piccolo in the next scene of the preview.

Also, the face means next to nothing about their role. Its an awkward inbetween frame that has been widely distributed. Don't look too much into it.

The preview is doing it's usual misleading thing and that is more likely this time as we don't see Pilina.

For this tournament, I wouldn't say the previews haven't been all that mis-leading, they do give a very concise breakdown of some of the things that are going to happen in the episode more or less.

[Simere]

What would have been a good introduction?

Effortlessly dispatching some opponents. Calmly observing the fight with Jiren. Skulking about trying to potshot our hero isn't a good look, and then to not even be able to do it because U7's third-string hitters stopped you.

[JazzMazz]

What would have been a good introduction?

Effortlessly dispatching some opponents. Calmly observing the fight with Jiren. Skulking about trying to potshot our hero isn't a good look, and then to not even be able to do it because U7's third-string hitters stopped you.

Technically aren't Gohan and Piccolo(or at the very least Gohan) more the second-string hitters of universe 7?

I will say, the final U10 fighters recieved a better introdution than the Namekians, and there introduction was pretty lacklustre in my opinion.

[namekiansaiyan]

What would have been a good introduction?

Effortlessly dispatching some opponents. Calmly observing the fight with Jiren. Skulking about trying to potshot our hero isn't a good look, and then to not even be able to do it because U7's third-string hitters stopped you.

Technically aren't Gohan and Piccolo(or at the very least Gohan) more the second-string hitters of universe 7?

I will say, the final U10 fighters recieved a better introdution than the Namekians, and there introduction was pretty lacklustre in my opinion.

Their introduction is probably what they are naturally like, dirty fighters.

[Michsi]

I am just asking for something like a new technique or some information that could improve Piccolo. I don't want them to be in just because Toriyama was too lazy to come up with a new design and for them to have a random fight with Gohan and Piccolo just so they can fight as a team. Toriyama could have made any other 2 fighters do that.

I want something different between Piccolo and these Namekians apart from skin colour just like with the other 2 races on each team. If Toriyama does not expand the Namekians I will never understand why.

A ton of people want something good to happen to Piccolo power wise, but it's been like that for years. Hasn't Toriyama even stated that he feels compelled to do the opposite of what the fans want. Even if Super has seen to some fan wishes, pretty much none of those happened the way fans wanted or expected to. So everyone should be weary.

What would have been a good introduction?

Effortlessly dispatching some opponents. Calmly observing the fight with Jiren. Skulking about trying to potshot our hero isn't a good look, and then to not even be able to do it because U7's third-string hitters stopped you.

Pretty much something like this. The intrigue surrounding them kind of evaporated the moment they entered the scene like that.

[Simere]

Technically aren't Gohan and Piccolo(or at the very least Gohan) more the second-string hitters of universe 7?

I was going to say second-string, but I put Goku in his own tier now so I've shifted them down.

Their introduction is probably what they are naturally like, dirty fighters.

But that doesn't bode well. Fighters who fight dirty usually do it because they have to; it speaks to their weakness.

[namekiansaiyan]

I am just asking for something like a new technique or some information that could improve Piccolo. I don't want them to be in just because Toriyama was too lazy to come up with a new design and for them to have a random fight with Gohan and Piccolo just so they can fight as a team. Toriyama could have made any other 2 fighters do that.

I want something different between Piccolo and these Namekians apart from skin colour just like with the other 2 races on each team. If Toriyama does not expand the Namekians I will never understand why.

A ton of people want something good to happen to Piccolo power wise, but it's been like that for years. Hasn't Toriyama even stated that he feels compelled to do the opposite of what the fans want. Even if Super has seen to some fan wishes, pretty much none of those happened the way fans wanted or expected to. So everyone should be weary.

The problem here is that this is common sense as Frost and Universe 6 Saiyans are different so the Namekians should also be.

Their introduction is probably what they are naturally like, dirty fighters.

But that doesn't bode well. Fighters who fight dirty usually do it because they have to; it speaks to their weakness.

That would make them the opposite of Universe 6 Namekians then if they are not nice. Frost and Frieza are also dirty fighters so it is not really a weakness.

[Michsi]

Their introduction is probably what they are naturally like, dirty fighters.

But that doesn't bode well. Fighters who fight dirty usually do it because they have to; it speaks to their weakness.

It doesn't bode well for them as far as power goes, but fighters that fight dirty can be fun. I think we are in dire need of some characters that go "to hell with this honor and pride BS, hit bellow the belt! "

The problem here is that this is common sense as Frost and Universe 6 Saiyans are different so the Namekians should also be.

Except Frost ended up being exactly like Freeza. But a different attitude and temperament doesn't imply power necessarily. Or do you expect them to be like the saiyans were in U7?

[TheDipDap1234]

We have some new information about some of the Gods of Destruction according to GovetaXV. He says they were in today's V-Jump.

[spoiler]Ramushi - Has the loudest voice in all of Universes & can even make a God Of Destruction on the verge of faint.

Belmod - Throws His "Ki" in the Shape of Trump Card.

Liquir - Throws Energy Bullets from the Tip of his tail.

Helles - Bow(Only this was written for some reason)

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[Simere]

That would make them the opposite of Universe 6 Namekians then if they are not nice. Frost and Frieza are also dirty fighters so it is not really a weakness.

Frost is weak and resorts to tricks exactly because of that. You're right about Freeza, though; he fights dirty when he could just win on pure skill. But that's why I'm saying "bode" and "usually". I'm not certain they'll be weak, they're just putting out signs that typically indicate it.