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Post by djkalteraphine » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:18 am

Chuquita wrote:I've already drawn two full pages of comics mocking this movie's plot. X3
If there's anything its good for its cannon fodder.
I almost feel bad for taking advantage of it. But the more I think about it, the more awesome this movie sounds.

Think about it, guys, seriously. . just break down with me for a second.

There's no possible way they could make a Dragon Ball movie to please the thousands of fans around the world. Absolutely no way. This movie? If it is true (which, I still don't believe), it will be totally and completely the most hilarious thing ever.

Yamcha. . . with a rope ladder. . . in the desert.

Oh my god. I'm going to need to bring a change of pants.

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Post by SaiyamanMS » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:03 am

Okay, this is SO WTF, that I'm gonna break it down, piece by piece...
[GOKU] 18 years old, Goku is considered uncool and unpopular at school, but he is in fact an extremely talented martial arts fighter who gets rigorous training from his grandfather, Gohan.
Ok... Goku... School... Goku at school... No, just no. Goku's character is that of an uneducated hick who has never been properly exposed to civilistation.

I guess having him be "uncool and unpopular" could possibly mean that he's kinda weird... That's the only way I could see Goku at school working, being an outcast because he's weird.
After the death of his grandfather by the evil Lord Piccolo, Goku finds his destiny in his grandfather's dying request that he find Master Roshi and gather all seven Dragon Balls (of which he has one) in order to prevent Piccolo from succeeding in his desire to use the dragonballs to take over the world.
Grampa Gohan is killed off by Piccolo Daimao? Sure, that works for me.
Trained by Master Roshi, aided by Bulma and Yamcha, friends he meets along the way, Goku proves himself a formidable, almost undefeatable fighter. On many dangerous adventures to find the remaining Dragon Balls and thus save the world, Goku conquers physical and emotional challenges, ultimately saving the world but clearly impelled to spend his life searching for the Dragon Balls with his trusty companions...LEAD
Well, I don't see any glaring problems here.
[BULMA] 20s, female, pretty, with great intelligence behind her gleaming eyes, Bulma is a determined, competitive young woman whose father's five star Dragon Ball was stolen by Lord Piccolo, and who believes that she can harness their unlimited energy and change the world like Edison or Einstein.
No real flaws there, however it seems a little odd to be bringing up harnessing the Dragon Ball's energy to change the world like Edison or Einstein...
Bulma, who has a DBE (a Dragon Ball locator device), teams up with Goku, and with him meets up with Master Roshi and Yamcha as they attempt to collect the missing Dragon Balls before Piccolo can destroy the world. A resourceful and courageous young woman who's also a weapons expert, she overcomes many obstacles with her colleagues, only to find the seven Dragon Balls ultimately snatched from their grasp--but it's clear she's going to continue searching for them with Goku and Yamcha...LEAD
... Why is the Dragon Radar suddenly called a DBE now?
[YAMCHA] 20s, "the bad boy who has no trouble attracting women," he taunts Goku, Bulma and Master Yoshi, who are trapped in a sand cave, rather than helping them with his rope ladder. However, after overhearing Master Roshi's tale of Piccolo once nearly destroyed the Earth and are preparing to do so again, Yamcha has a change of heart and not only helps the three in the desert, but becomes a valuable part of the team.
WTF? ROPE LADDER!?
An ingenious young man whose utililty truck is the Swiss Army Knife of trucks--every tool and gear imaginable sprouts from its body--Yamcha joins Goku, Bulma (with whom he becomes romantically involved) and Master Yoshi on their quest to find the seven Dragon Balls before Piccolo...LEAD
... "Swiss Army Knife of trucks"? O_o;;
[MASTER ROSHI] This older man is a good friend of Goku's grandfather, Gohan, and Goku comes to enlist his help after his grandfather is killed. Although he looks like a beggar, Roshi is one of the world’s most fearsome fighters. Master Roshi begins Goku's rigorous training to prepare him for the adventure of finding and fighting for the seven Dragon Balls to save the world from Piccolo's destructive plan. A wise, somewhat wry man who knows as much about human nature as he does about martial arts, Master Roshi is impressed with Goku's fighting but reminds him of his failings as well. Ultimately, Master Roshi sacrifices his own life in order to destroy Piccolo...LEAD
"Although he looks like a beggar"? o_O
Well, no real problems here I guess...
[MAI] Late 20s, female, her features exotic, sexy but deadly, dressed in gleaming black, with weapons strapped all over her body, she's a martial arts expert and Lord Piccolo's chief enforcer. Crafty and quick thinking, Mai uses her ability to shapeshift near the climax of the movie and takes on the form of Chi Chi, a young martial arts expert who's romantically involved with Goku and later saves Piccolo from Master Roshi's curse; once she is revealed she ends up in the fight of her life.
... Mai? ... Seriously, Mai?

... There's so many things wrong with that I don't know where to start. ._.;; Probably the worst part would have to be the fact that she's now a SHAPESHIFTER for some strange reason... Why Mai though? She's Pilaf's henchman, they could easily replace her with Tambourine or something, right? (Of course, shapeshifting Tambourine wouldn't make much sense either...)
[LORD PICCOLO] An ancient being who despite his humanoid appearance, is from an alien race determined to take over the world. Piccolo is the cursed ruler of a demonic race who nearly destroyed Earth 2000 years ago, and with the coming of the eclipse and the possession of all seven Dragon Balls, he's prepared to free himself and do the job right this time. Crafty and smart, Piccolo has some disturbing news for Goku, namely that the boy is actually a Saiyan who's destined to join Piccolo as his right hand in destroying and enslaving the planet...LEAD
2000 years? That's a bit of a random change... Although what's even randomer is, why would a Saiyan be destined to join him?
[CHI CHI] Goku’s lifelong love interest, Chi Chi is an attractive, tom boy-ish young woman who has grown up with Goku. She has studied martial arts and has always suspected that Goku possesses talents that are unusual and extraordinary. After Goku embarks on his journey to redeem his grandfather’s death, Chi Chi meets up with Goku and his crew at a tournament of champions where their mutual attraction finally heats up during a training session.
No major problems here I guess... Although having "their mutual attraction finally heats up during a training session" seems kinda odd...
[GOHAN] Goku's kindly, wise grandfather, he looks like he's in his 70s but moves like Jet Li. An accomplished martial artist who trains Goku on the bow staff, he loves his grandson and is happy to prepare a special feast for him on his 18th birthday, as well as a special gift: a 3 star Dragon Ball. Tragically, Gohan is struck down by the high ninjas of the Namek-Jins, and as he dies he sends his grandson out to do face his destiny and do battle against them...
"Moves like Jet Li"... Nothing WRONG with that, it just sounds funny. XD
Anyway, THREE star ball? That's gaining several points on the "WTF-O-Meter", and Ninja Namek-Jins sounds absolutely ridiculous, yet amusing. XD

So yeah, some aspects sound pretty bad... But if they manage to fix the overly WTF-ish flaws, then it could come out as a somewhat decent adaption... If not, it could still come out as a somewhat entertaining movie, even if it's a terrible adaption of it's source material...

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Post by Carrie » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:09 am

The character description for Goku sounds more like Goku Jr. to me.
[quote="Rocketman"]
He (Gohan) is weaker. He has the fighting spirit of a wet noodle soaked in water until it barely resembles a noodle. A pebble is tougher than Gohan, because you could conceivably trip on a rock and stub your toe, while Gohan would yield like so much melted pudding. Vanilla pudding. Because he's too pansy-ass to have a strong flavor if he was pudding. Pure water has more flavor than hypothetical Gohan-pudding.

.... I think I lost where I was going there.[/quote]

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Post by Xyex » Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:59 am

Wow, so much negativity. There's nothing in this apparent information that I wasn't really expecting in some form, or at least as a posibility. I, for one, think this movie still has promise. I like some of the new ideas here, though some of the ideas are rather bizarre. In the end, based on this information, I can tell you one thing. The movie will rock. Either because it's just that fucking awesome as its own movie (you people seriously need to get out of your one-track thoughts about how something has to be such a percentage like the source) or because it'll be just so damned odd and unintentionally funny to fans of the series it'll be even better than The Magic Begins.
No real flaws there, however it seems a little odd to be bringing up harnessing the Dragon Ball's energy to change the world like Edison or Einstein...
Well, Einstein's mentioned in the dub of the show too. As is Newton. And really, the DB Universe has an Earth and Mars and Jupiter and so on so tossing in other real-world names isn't really out of place.
... Why is the Dragon Radar suddenly called a DBE now?
No idea.... If it was DBD or DBL I'd say it was short for Dragonball Detector or Locator. But I don't know what the hell the E would stand for....
WTF? ROPE LADDER!?
What's wrong with a rope ladder? You'd rather he just have a vine to toss down into the pit for them to climb? Seriously, I don't see why people are picking this out of that page as something odd. :?
... "Swiss Army Knife of trucks"? O_o;;
I thought that was an amusing comparison. >.> But anyway, it sounds like Yamcha's truck is taking Puar's place as the 'all purpose item generator'.
... Mai? ... Seriously, Mai?

... There's so many things wrong with that I don't know where to start. ._.;; Probably the worst part would have to be the fact that she's now a SHAPESHIFTER for some strange reason... Why Mai though? She's Pilaf's henchman, they could easily replace her with Tambourine or something, right? (Of course, shapeshifting Tambourine wouldn't make much sense either...)
Well, this is replacing the Pilaf stuff, and I guess they figured it'd be nice to have a recognizable name for the female villain lead and Mai's the only one that fits. So there she is. The shapeshifting thing just sounds like a plot device. (Which we all know Dragonball's never used :roll: )
2000 years? That's a bit of a random change... Although what's even randomer is, why would a Saiyan be destined to join him?
Why is everyone taking that thing about Goku joining him at face value? Seriously. Why? Saiya-jin = Race of planet conquerors. Piccolo = Out to conquer a planet. Line = Piccolo refrencing said occupation of Goku's race. To me it sounds more like he's saying "It's in your blood, you'll eventually join me, you can't resist it" more than "You came here to work for me" like everyone else seems to read it.
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Post by Carrie » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:09 am

Xyex wrote:
2000 years? That's a bit of a random change... Although what's even randomer is, why would a Saiyan be destined to join him?
Why is everyone taking that thing about Goku joining him at face value? Seriously. Why? Saiya-jin = Race of planet conquerors. Piccolo = Out to conquer a planet. Line = Piccolo refrencing said occupation of Goku's race. To me it sounds more like he's saying "It's in your blood, you'll eventually join me, you can't resist it" more than "You came here to work for me" like everyone else seems to read it.
Thank you. That's basically what I got out of it, too. And it could be a perfect lead-in for a sequel if this thing's really gonna be in three parts.
[quote="Rocketman"]
He (Gohan) is weaker. He has the fighting spirit of a wet noodle soaked in water until it barely resembles a noodle. A pebble is tougher than Gohan, because you could conceivably trip on a rock and stub your toe, while Gohan would yield like so much melted pudding. Vanilla pudding. Because he's too pansy-ass to have a strong flavor if he was pudding. Pure water has more flavor than hypothetical Gohan-pudding.

.... I think I lost where I was going there.[/quote]

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Post by Shenron » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:32 am

Wow, so much negativity. There's nothing in this apparent information that I wasn't really expecting in some form, or at least as a posibility. I, for one, think this movie still has promise. I like some of the new ideas here, though some of the ideas are rather bizarre. In the end, based on this information, I can tell you one thing. The movie will rock.
Oh, please. If they are to change the universe, the plot and the characters, then why call it "Dragonball (Z)", except to get DB/DBZ fans to pay and watch a crappy, generic actioner who would hardly deserve to be a direct-to-DVD.

It's Dragonball, ok ? Even if I already know the story, watching a live action movie, with real actors, is enough for me. They did it with Spiderman and Xmen (with some adaptations, but of course I'd accept that), so why not with Dragonball ?

Obviously only the US can give us a decent DB/DBZ movie. But I'd rather wait ten years, and then maybe we could have some producers and directors who really like Dragonball, and not just random guys who only want to make money.

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Post by dasmith » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:54 am

I don't know about you guys, but I just went to that website, and read a good paragraph, and damn does this thing sound cool.

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Post by GI_Judd2287 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:37 am

18 years old, Goku is considered uncool and unpopular at school.
Unbelievable. Still, I can't wait to see Hollywood's take on the material.
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Post by XxAtarisCorexX » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:59 am

Goku as an 18 year old unpopular high school boy...why do I get the feeling we're going to have this happen to our beloved Goku..

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Post by Conan the SSJ » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:06 am

XxAtarisCorexX wrote:Goku as an 18 year old unpopular high school boy...why do I get the feeling we're going to have this happen to our beloved Goku..
Nah, some of us have a good idea how Goku will turn out...

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Post by Kaze no Mune » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:18 am

What, no Kuririn? =/

I quit reading the thing after getting through Goku's profile, and I'm not surprised. I'm thinking they just want to make a quick buck off this thing rather than create a fleshed out franchise that will please the fans. I hope to Kami-sama this thing is some sort of joke or prank.
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Post by BartTrunks » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:19 am

That wouldn't be bad at all, Smallville's cool. I'd rather have the guy who directs that show make the movie instead of the director we have now.

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Post by Conan the SSJ » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:27 am

BartTrunks wrote:That wouldn't be bad at all, Smallville's cool. I'd rather have the guy who directs that show make the movie instead of the director we have now.
I'm a big fan of Smallville as well. But the thing is, personality-wise, Clark Kent/Kal-El and Son Goku/Kakarrot are very different people. Goku is a naive country-bumpkin with little-to-no education (he gets, what, a few reading classes from Roshi?) who was raised alone by an old man in the wilderness. Clark grew on a farm with parents that wanted him to have as normal life as possible, therefore allowed him to go to school and have the kind of childhood Gohan sheltered Goku from. A big problem with this live-action movie is that it's screwing the character Son Goku is worse than any corny Superman-esque dialogue FUNi ever gave Sean Schemmel, so I wouldn't be surprised if Wong in fact hired Tom Welling to play his day job while on vacation. If this info about the characters' treatments is true, Goku may as well be given another name, because this person being concocted is essentially an exact clone of another certain show being shot in Canada.
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Post by Sun_Wukong » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:27 am

The movie has a director!!! OMFGWTFBBQ!!!

http://movies.ign.com/articles/824/824447p1.html
"James Wong has reportedly come aboard to direct the live-action feature film version of Dragon Ball Z.

CHUD.com reports that Wong will helm the Fox movie, which will lens in Montreal later this year. Wong's credits include The One and the first and third installments of the Final Destination franchise. He was a consulting producer on The X-Files and executive producer on Millenium, and also produced Willard and the remake of Black Christmas"

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Post by Kaboom » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:37 am

Sun_Wukong wrote:The movie has a director!!! OMFGWTFBBQ!!!

http://movies.ign.com/articles/824/824447p1.html
"James Wong has reportedly come aboard to direct the live-action feature film version of Dragon Ball Z.

CHUD.com reports that Wong will helm the Fox movie, which will lens in Montreal later this year. Wong's credits include The One and the first and third installments of the Final Destination franchise. He was a consulting producer on The X-Files and executive producer on Millenium, and also produced Willard and the remake of Black Christmas"
Uh, yeah, that's been the news for the last three pages... ^_^;
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Post by Sun_Wukong » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:38 am

SSj Kaboom wrote: Uh, yeah, that's been the news for the last three pages... ^_^;
Wow, I'm really slow...

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Post by Kendamu » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:25 pm

XxAtarisCorexX wrote:Goku as an 18 year old unpopular high school boy...why do I get the feeling we're going to have this happen to our beloved Goku..

*image snip*
Problem is... he wouldn't know how to fight if he were an Emo kid.

Seriously, look up "Emo Fight" on YouTube sometime. Those kids fight worse than some of the other kids I fought as a 4-year-old! My grandmother can beat up an emo kid during a dialysis session if she felt inclined to!

(No offense to people who just like the music)

Anywho, if they were to tweak the story in certain glaringly-obvious places, this would be like the 10th Anniversary DB movie only with Piccolo Daimao as the villain instead of the Red Ribbon Army. However, they're obviously not going for that take on it.

I just hope that this is all a big hoax because, as far as I see, not even the kids who grew up on the dub (and hate the Japanese version) are going to want have anything to do with this childhod-raping imposter of a storyline.

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Post by Tsukento » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:38 pm

Ugh, where to begin?

It's like the director flipped through the manga and wiped his ass with the Piccolo Daimao arc. That arc has so much potential to be an awesome movie, yet it's getting such an awful treatment.

I didn't go through all the posts since this announcement, but did anyone point out how incredibly wrong Piccolo is? For starters, why would he want the Dragon Balls to conquer Earth? Did he suddenly become so weak that he needs NAMEKIAN NINJA to do everything for him? Where the hell's the threat within himself? I'm pretty sure Piccolo's not going to even look anything like he originally did. Likely the only recognizable feature would be his ears, if even that.

I know why Mai's there. Piccolo and Pilaf fused. Where as Oolong, Lunch, and Mai fused together. That's why Piccolo's so damn weak and wants world conquest and why Mai can shape-shift and is a weapons master. Also why she follows Piccolo.

No Kuririn? No Tenshinhan? What the crap? The budget so low you can't get a short kid and use some CG effects to remove his nose or add CG to make a third eye?

Also, Piccolo shouldn't even know he's a Namekian. He originally thought himself to be a demon. So he shouldn't know of a Saiyan, either. The very aspect of trying to get Goku to join him is also ridiculous as he never allowed for anyone else but himself to have any form of power.

Ugh. This whole movie screams DISASTER and is likely to become the Spirits Within of the Dragon Ball franchise. Suddenly, that Hong Kong movie looks mighty fine right about now.

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Post by Onikage725 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:12 pm

I just went from morbid interest to abject terror.
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