"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kataphrut]

Champa does it? Wasn't expecting that. If it is fusion, I hope we see him demonstrate it with someone else in the stands. Who would we get? Champados? Champit? Dr Rompa?

[namekiansaiyan]

Namekians, make sure you are watching Champa.

[Michsi]

Champa does it? Wasn't expecting that. If it is fusion, I hope we see him demonstrate it with someone else in the stands. Who would we get? Champados? Champit? Dr Rompa?

The only way we'd get a fusion out of him is if he gets Beerus to help, and wouldn't that be a sight

Still, all things considered, the potara seems the likelier of the two now.

[TheDipDap1234]

Champa does it? Wasn't expecting that. If it is fusion, I hope we see him demonstrate it with someone else in the stands. Who would we get? Champados? Champit? Dr Rompa?

Maybe Champagetta or Chabba

[Olympian]

Did you miss the part where Toriyama said GT is a "Side story" to Dragonball?
Toriyama has also said the same about the DBZ movies being in "another dimension" cause he was mostly not part of them.
Toriyama is on record stating that official Dragonball is his manga, the anime AND Dragonball Super.

TOEI didn't say Toriyama only created the series. They outright stated that Toriyama writes the story for super, and oversees their production of his story.
Your opinions don't change the facts.

Does this include Filler too?

In "The anime and me" interview, Toriyama claims even that is Dragonball...

12: From time to time, it would happen that people whom I didn't even know were approaching me about the anime. Things were often said like: "Oh jeeze, between the manga and the anime, you must never take any time to let yourself breathe!". In reality, I had hardly worked at all on the anime, I had put confidence in my collaborators. I had enough to do just with the manga. I didn't want to work myself to death, you know...

Toriyama: I want to live until I'm 100 years old!

13: For example, drawing an image of a movement in a manga is relatively simple, but to animate this image, you had to decompose the movement and draw all the intermediary movements. That demands a colossal amount of work. (Ok, the example of Kame-sennin might not be the most appropriate...)

14: Of course, those who have read Dragon Ball have noticed that certain stories which are found in the anime didn't existe in the manga.

Oolong: What's this? I never saw that in the manga....

END: As one adventure in the manga corresponds to about 10 minutes of animation, and since one episode comprises on average 30 minutes, the entire series of Dragon Ball would have passed by very quickly. The team of animators therefore had to insert some original stories. I admire what they have done, that's a hell of a job!

Toriyama: "Dragon Ball, it's the anime and the manga!"

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I`m quite satisfied considering there`s Filler he didn`t have a direct hand on but I always felt it was in character for the older cast.

[Olympian]

Moving away from the canon debate

How would people feel if the 48 minutes = 100 taks calculation turned out to be wrong, and there was inadvertently a timeskip on Earth?

The kids are a bit more grown up and Gotenks, Yamcha, Chiatzu and Buu are quoted as to have fended off a couple invasions to the planet, which would then be retold for the audience`s general pleasure

[Jigurashi]

Can people now, pretty please, stop blaming Goku for everything?

Nah fam. We can't stop doing that. That would require the fanbase to stop jumping to conclusions based on little info.

[namekiansaiyan]

Can people now, pretty please, stop blaming Goku for everything?

Nah fam. We can't stop doing that. That would require the fanbase to stop jumping to conclusions based on little info.

This is all Goku's fault anyway as he didn't knock them out in episode 101.

[Jigurashi]

Can people now, pretty please, stop blaming Goku for everything?

Nah fam. We can't stop doing that. That would require the fanbase to stop jumping to conclusions based on little info.

This is all Goku's fault anyway as he didn't knock them out in episode 101.

Might as well blame 17 and 18 as well. Since you know, they let them go right along with Goku.

[Big Black Sayian]

Nah fam. We can't stop doing that. That would require the fanbase to stop jumping to conclusions based on little info.

This is all Goku's fault anyway as he didn't knock them out in episode 101.

Might as well blame 17 and 18 as well. Since you know, they let them go right along with Goku.

17 and 18 are too busy not doing anything

[Jigurashi]

This is all Goku's fault anyway as he didn't knock them out in episode 101.

Might as well blame 17 and 18 as well. Since you know, they let them go right along with Goku.

17 and 18 are too busy not doing anything

Lol. I know. That doesn't really change the fact they're equally to blame for letting Caulifla and Kale go, but apparently that's all Goku's fault. 17 and 18 just disappeared after 103, and after giving energy to the Genki Dama, disappeared once again.

[Big Black Sayian]

It's probably not against the rules to use Potara? Goku got outside help for his Genki Dama.

[SansrivaaL]

Its the same nonetheless, Goku will let them do the fusion anyways and just watch till they get the gits of it, there's really no difference if it was Goku teaching them or someone else.
Anyways what I got from that is... Kale will be able to control her transformation now (couldnt she do that before? with the slim SSJ and the hulk Broly mode, is this a new one?) and despite that she and Cauli will still have to fuse, so is this new controlled form of hers + Cauli still not a match for a tired Goku? I mean Goku is still recovering even if he is able to go SSJ2 in the prev he's still damaged hard from Jiren.

[Jigurashi]

Its the same nonetheless, Goku will let them do the fusion anyways and just watch till they get the gits of it, there's really no difference if it was Goku teaching them or someone else.
Anyways what I got from that is... Kale will be able to control her transformation now (couldnt she do that before? with the slim SSJ and the hulk Broly mode, is this a new one?) and despite that she and Cauli will still have to fuse, so is this new controlled form of hers + Cauli still not a match for a tired Goku? I mean Goku is still recovering even if he is able to go SSJ2 in the prev he's still damaged hard from Jiren.

I assume it's her "Berserker form" that she is going to use and has control over. Do you think it's possible he might get SSG or SSB back in episode 114? We know he'll be fighting them from 113-115, with him fighting a fusion of them.

[namekiansaiyan]

Its the same nonetheless, Goku will let them do the fusion anyways and just watch till they get the gits of it, there's really no difference if it was Goku teaching them or someone else.
Anyways what I got from that is... Kale will be able to control her transformation now (couldnt she do that before? with the slim SSJ and the hulk Broly mode, is this a new one?) and despite that she and Cauli will still have to fuse, so is this new controlled form of hers + Cauli still not a match for a tired Goku? I mean Goku is still recovering even if he is able to go SSJ2 in the prev he's still damaged hard from Jiren.

Goku will somehow beat them both separately. Kale will probably master her form while Caulifla get SS3. They will then fuse and fire some huge Ki blast so Goku unlocks Ultra instinct again. The fusion will defuse and Goku will blow them away as he has a much more serious personality in Ultra Instinct. Kale and Caulifla will then land next to a certain fighter for some toturing before they are knocked out.

[Lord Beerus]

Champa knowing a certain type of fusion technique is genius. It's a fantastic way of expanding the lore of Universe 6 while also giving Champa some kind of credit as a Hakaishin for doing his homework and being knowledgeable of some aspects of the universe he looks over and bringing that knowledge into a scenario where it really matters.

Good stuff, Super.

I also have zero problem with Goku allowing this happen. Goku likes a challenge more than anything else, regards of the unfortunate implication that may happen as result of his behaviour. It's why he let Vegeta escape in the Saiyan arc, why he let Freeza power up to 100% during their fight on Namek, why he let the Androids be activated, why he gave Cell a senzu before he fought Gohan and why he turn down using he Potara to easily defeat Kid Boo. Goku may be pragmatic in a few scenarios, but he's a martial artist first and foremost. And he wants to get the most of his opponents so that he can find new ways of becoming stronger as well as enjoy the thrill of a great battle.

Oh, and I don't think Kale will get a new form. We already jumped the gun on Goku teaching Kale and Caulifla the fusion dance, so I'm not gonna hold me breath on Kale getting another Super Saiyan form. But it could happen. We'll just have to wait and see.

[perucho1990]

It's probably not against the rules to use Potara? Goku got outside help for his Genki Dama.

Dont forget Helles and Kakunza helping Brianne to powerup.

Goku will somehow beat them both separately. Kale will probably master her form while Caulifla get SS3. They will then fuse and fire some huge Ki blast so Goku unlocks Ultra instinct again. The fusion will defuse and Goku will blow them away as he has a much more serious personality in Ultra Instinct. Kale and Caulifla will then land next to a certain fighter for some toturing before they are knocked out.

I expect Freeza witnessing the whole fight, hiding behind rocks. The moment Kalefla defuses, he will attack them(I expect him to go for Kale first because he will witness again her overwhelming strength, which makes her a bigger threat than Caulifla).

[SansrivaaL]

Goku will somehow beat them both separately. Kale will probably master her form while Caulifla get SS3. They will then fuse and fire some huge Ki blast so Goku unlocks Ultra instinct again. The fusion will defuse and Goku will blow them away as he has a much more serious personality in Ultra Instinct. Kale and Caulifla will then land next to a certain fighter for some toturing before they are knocked out.

This is so detailed personally wanting them landing on that certain someone as soon as possible, make it happen Toei!

I assume it's her "Berserker form" that she is going to use and has control over. Do you think it's possible he might get SSG or SSB back in episode 114? We know he'll be fighting them from 113-115, with him fighting a fusion of them.

But didnt she already have control over that? Cauli even told Goku after they got out of the barrier that Kale could control it now, unless Toei forgot that they already had her do that.
In my opinion I think Goku regaining enough energy to jump into SSJG and above in less than 10mints is a little too fast... but this is Super we're talkin about (he even said in the prev that he'll show them SSJ3, mind you I find that decision stupid af even from Goku), wouldnt be surprised if he's already back to full power despite getting bodied by those robots just a few secs ago and now Cauli on his ass, he really didnt get enough time to actually rest.

[Kanassa]

I assume it's her "Berserker form" that she is going to use and has control over. Do you think it's possible he might get SSG or SSB back in episode 114? We know he'll be fighting them from 113-115, with him fighting a fusion of them.

But didnt she already have control over that? Cauli even told Goku after they got out of the barrier that Kale could control it now, unless Toei forgot that they already had her do that.

Nope. Kale simply powered down her abilities to a level that was controllable, the spoilers seem to imply that she's learning to control the full on Beserker state

[BlueBasilisk]

Hopefully once they're done sparring with Goku they'll take notice of Frieza and wipe him out to repay what he did to Cabba.