Anyone else wishing the universe 6 saiyans had their own transformations?

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Anyone else wishing the universe 6 saiyans had their own transformations?

Post by Cdunn183 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:15 am

This is my first attempt at starting a thread. So I’m sorry if I’m in the wrong section. I was just curious if anyone else had any thoughts on this. We know that the universe 6 saiyans are at a different point of evolution. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think they could look a little different when they transform. I think it would make things a little more interesting. Especially when we have to accept they are transforming at a ridiculous rate. At this point They have kinda made a mockery of the ssj forms that we watched our beloved universe 7 saiyans struggle to reach. I’d like to atleast see maybe a different take on the forms.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:31 pm

Oh yeah, people hoped that back in the Universe 6 arc. Some people even thought that they might be SSJ4s. I personally would have liked something similar.

Honestly though I just wish they had tails because I miss tails and Oozarus.

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Post by RedHeat » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:57 pm

Well, technically Kale has her own transformation.

But no, I don't think the U6 Saiyans having their own special forms will be a good idea. Gives more people more fuel to shitfling at them, and people will label said theoretical new forms as "asspulls" because the show doesn't have the time to explain them inside and out.
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Post by sintzu » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:08 pm

I don't mind them having the same forms but I don't like how fast they got them. We know DB is going to be around for a LONG time so why not take that time and develop them properly ? Make each form have weight and an impact to it.
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Post by Cdunn183 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:11 pm

I honestly think they are in a hurry to power up all the universe 6 saiyans so they can do the arc with vegeta going to planet sadal. I honestly wonder how much longer super can go because of how strong they are making everyone. Ultra instinct is cool but I just wonder where can we even go from here?

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Post by Kanious » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:57 pm

Cdunn183 wrote:I honestly think they are in a hurry to power up all the universe 6 saiyans so they can do the arc with vegeta going to planet sadal. I honestly wonder how much longer super can go because of how strong they are making everyone. Ultra instinct is cool but I just wonder where can we even go from here?
Maybe Ultra Instinct Goku will not be enough to get stronger than Jiren. And also there are the angels, so there is a lot more before the characters get insanely stronger to the point that there isn't a top anymore to pursue.

I thought that nothing could beat Zamasu/Black, but now we have Jiren.

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Post by sintzu » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:23 pm

Cdunn183 wrote:Ultra instinct is cool but I just wonder where can we even go from here?
When SsjG was announced everyone was asking the same question, how can you top something like that so they'll find a way. UI isn't a Saiyan thing so as of now, SsjB is the last thing they have with multiple options to move forward with something else, including Ssj4.
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Post by precita » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:09 pm

The U6 Saiyans should have went Super Saiyan Purple.

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Post by BWri » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:13 pm

Cdunn183 wrote:This is my first attempt at starting a thread. So I’m sorry if I’m in the wrong section. I was just curious if anyone else had any thoughts on this. We know that the universe 6 saiyans are at a different point of evolution. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think they could look a little different when they transform. I think it would make things a little more interesting. Especially when we have to accept they are transforming at a ridiculous rate. At this point They have kinda made a mockery of the ssj forms that we watched our beloved universe 7 saiyans struggle to reach. I’d like to atleast see maybe a different take on the forms.
I kind of want them to have something more unique since they allegedly evolved faster than U7 Saiyans, but more than that I'd like a better explanation of what makes them so evolved over U7 and why that makes them grow in power so fast. DBZ made it seem like there was more to Saiyan transformations than raw strength, it seemed like Goku and Vegeta needed to train their minds and bodies as well, so just what about U6's evolved physiology makes this easier for them?
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Post by BlueBasilisk » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:18 am

Kale's transformation in 114 looks like something new-ish. Based on the NEP her harnessed berserker power looks more like her normal Super Saiyan form with dark green hair.

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Post by Rip the Jacker » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:09 am

I wished they would have been introduced differently and had a dedicated arc. All of these forms and miraculous power ups are so dull meaningless without the build up and actual trainingredients arcs to with them.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:21 am

sintzu wrote: UI isn't a Saiyan thing
Well after God Ki became a thing, everyone noted how that wasn't saiyan exclusive either, but so far no one else in the main cast has gained god ki because this is DBS where nobody besides Goku and Vegeta matter, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for any non-saiyan to get UI.

...I think I'm becoming too jaded and cynical, but that's better than the optimism I've had before because that optimism for character relevancy always lead to disappointment.
Rip the Jacker wrote:I wished they would have been introduced differently and had a dedicated arc. All of these forms and miraculous power ups are so dull meaningless without the build up and actual trainingredients arcs to with them.
That is very true. We should have at least had the visit to planet Sadala before this tournament so Kale and Caulifla's character build-up and transformations wouldn't have been so rushed.

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Post by Rip the Jacker » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:46 am

That's the worse thing about super. It just completely spits in the face of the originals legacy. It's a bad sequel no doubt about it. This is actually written worse than GT. Thankfully it can be entertainjng.

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Post by Lionel » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:46 am

I would prefer to see less transformations, not more. Saiyans already have more than any other species barring Freeza. The path to acquiring new strength and shattering previously established glass ceilings should be rendered in a more original light. Dragon Ball original certainly had its formulaic style, but the nuances of each mentor or means of acquiring power helped to make them stand out. I'm not really sure if most of the Saiyan transformations can lay claim to the same description. It's gotten to a point where I would prefer to learn more about and have expanded upon Zarbon's transformation instead of Saiyan forms.

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Post by Meshack » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:02 pm

No. Having the 6th Universe Saiyans have different transformations doesn’t make any sense. They’re the same race but from a twin universe.

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