Complete BT3 Info and Discussion Thread [UPDATED 10/02/07]

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:08 pm

SaiyamanMS wrote:
Well, just because the dub didn't keep "N'cha" or "Kiiiin" doesn't mean the game won't though. The dub didn't keep Goten's "Kamekameha" either, but it's in the games.

And it's not like Americans will be completely unfamiliar with Arale's catchphrases either, given that she does have them in Viz' manga translation (which I'd also assume has Goten's Kamekameha... right?).

Sshadow5001 · Post by **Sshadow5001** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:11 pm

The Lecherous Muten Roshi wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:
The Lecherous Muten Roshi wrote: I can't say I completely approve of Movie 12 Gogeta having Big Bang Kamehameha. That was his Super Saiyan 4 self's big finisher.
To be fair, he didn't do much in movie 12, so they gotta give him something besides that rush.
True. But I thought him having Kamehameha and Final Flash was good.

I really didn't like Gogeta having Super Kamehameha and Final Flash because it was redundant. Both were beams with one that could be charged longer than the other and that soul destroyer technique (can’t remember the name) which is easy to dodge and leaves you wide open for the opponent to attack.

The new Gogeta is better in the sense that his ultimate is a rush recreation of what he does in the movie and I suppose a super explosive wave is better than just another beam and Big Bang Kamehameha is ok because it is Gogeta’s attack he just don’t get chance to use it, plus it’s a combination attack which makes sense like Super Vegetto having Final Kamehameha.

Neon Z · Post by **Neon Z** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:17 pm

Hm... ok, according to some posts from the Atari forums, the Nail "what if" vs the Ginyu force isn't a separate scenario at all, but it is in the game. To trigger it, you just need to lose a lot of health while fighting against Reecom, then the "trigger" event will appear and Nail will go to the rescue.

Hm... now, I'm really wondering about the other scenarios... could there be other variations that people missed?

Sshadow5001 · Post by **Sshadow5001** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:31 pm

Future Gohan VS 17 (Sparking Meteor)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtYlwVz4jw (1:26 - 1:29)
Gohan VS Cell Juniors (TV Series)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbNdQ6uMqE (1:36 - 1:42)

Is it just me or does part of Future Gohans ultimate attack remind you of when SSJ2 Gohan was killing off the Cell Juniors.

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:41 pm

Neon Z wrote:Hm... now, I'm really wondering about the other scenarios... could there be other variations that people missed?

I think it's possible that people miss certain scenarios. I mean, right now there are a number of people who achieved 100%, yet finding themselves missing some battles. From what I heard, the player doesn't need to trigger every possibilities in order to achieve story perfection. To me, it's a plus because at least it's not senselessly straightforward like NEO, where a lot times the battle required the player to win, but still loses on the story part. e.g. The Freeza battles. I hope Neon Z's assumption is true in that I want some more movie battles because the current uploaded videos never showed anything about movies, except for the battle with Tullece.

The S · Post by **The S** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:44 pm

Neon Z wrote:
That list also only had battles for the tv series, it's missing the movie battles, so it isn't really complete.

And we're 100% sure that the Movies have story mode battles.

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:49 pm

The S wrote:
Neon Z wrote:
That list also only had battles for the tv series, it's missing the movie battles, so it isn't really complete.
And we're 100% sure that the Movies have story mode battles.

Yet, that is the only movie battle I've seen so far. I figured if several have reached Tullece, they should have passed Dr. Uiro. Maybe the Atari boards are filled with people just rushing through the game, in which I hope is true.

Edit: Whoops! Just watched the video in its entirety. Yep, Dr. Uiro's story's in. I'll take your word for now.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:06 pm

kvon wrote:
The S wrote:
Neon Z wrote:
That list also only had battles for the tv series, it's missing the movie battles, so it isn't really complete.
And we're 100% sure that the Movies have story mode battles.
Yet, that is the only movie battle I've seen so far. I figured if several have reached Tullece, they should have passed Dr. Uiro. Maybe the Atari boards are filled with people just rushing through the game, in which I hope is true.

Edit: Whoops! Just watched the video in its entirety. Yep, Dr. Uiro's story's in. I'll take your word for now.

Well, your edit just removed my reason for posting. Figures it'd show up after I hit quote. XD I don't know, the story mode this time around is unusual so I think it'll take a while to find out what all is and isn't in it.

DNA · Post by **DNA** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:47 pm

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/sh ... p?t=614592

Blue and Arale's artwork.
Plus, it seems there are no more characters and no more stages whatsoever, everything that is in the game it's what we've been seeing, there are no surprises and no secret stuff. Bah, disapointing v_v

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:23 pm

Xyex wrote:
kvon wrote:
The S wrote: And we're 100% sure that the Movies have story mode battles.
Yet, that is the only movie battle I've seen so far. I figured if several have reached Tullece, they should have passed Dr. Uiro. Maybe the Atari boards are filled with people just rushing through the game, in which I hope is true.

Edit: Whoops! Just watched the video in its entirety. Yep, Dr. Uiro's story's in. I'll take your word for now.
Well, your edit just removed my reason for posting. Figures it'd show up after I hit quote. XD I don't know, the story mode this time around is unusual so I think it'll take a while to find out what all is and isn't in it.

Adding on to my previous post, this video shows that there's a category labeled as "Special Hen", which I assume where the movie and TV special scenarios are placed under.

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:49 pm

Man, Baby Vegeta sucks. The same thing over, and over again. Not to mention he gets full power every transformation. Kinda sad to see they did nothing new to Zangya. She's my female star.

Neon Z · Post by **Neon Z** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:50 pm

I think it's possible that people miss certain scenarios.

Basically, the situation seems to be like this:

This game really is missing many minor, and even some major, battles from the series, however that list given previously wasn't complete.

-It was missing the entire set of movie battles- though it seems that there's only one scenario per movie.

-It only listed a basic, and sometimes incomplete, structure of the scenarios- a single story scenario in this game can actually show a series of battles, and not every battle needs to be found/finished to clear the scenario.

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:51 pm

Oh yeah, Imperfect Cell 2's ultimate is awesome, haha.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:05 pm

I think that you can unlock the movie story mode after you beat the saiyan saga on hard difficulty.

DB_Fan · Post by **DB_Fan** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:33 pm

This game feels rushed, just to come out earlier.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:35 pm

Sshadow5001 wrote:Future Gohan VS 17 (Sparking Meteor)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtYlwVz4jw (1:26 - 1:29)
Gohan VS Cell Juniors (TV Series)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbNdQ6uMqE (1:36 - 1:42)

Is it just me or does part of Future Gohans ultimate attack remind you of when SSJ2 Gohan was killing off the Cell Juniors.

Nah, it's a modified replication of his combo attack against 17 in the special from their battle near the start of the special.

Anonymous Friend · Post by **Anonymous Friend** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:35 pm

That's the feeling I'm getting from the info of people who have played the game. I would have liked an extensive story mode to get me used to the new features or some.

Any word on the supposed mini-games?

Adey · Post by **Adey** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:53 pm

I only got to briefly play one in some sort of, well, I can only explain it like a life sim game where you have 10 actions to perform before a fight occurs, the actions being ; train your defense, attack, or ki or sleep, or use a senzu bean to recover your life. (Sleeping also recovers your life, the life energy you lose after training or sleeping carries on to the fight you go in to after you perform 10 actions).

It's really hard to explain, but it has a minigame with Mr Popo that if you win, your stats will improve a bit, and a few more games too involving a quiz with Bulma.

kaioken12 · Post by **kaioken12** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:58 pm

I was just wondering: Does Cell Form 2 really have Big Bang again?
If so, why didn't they give him something like Gallic Gun instead? He used that at least in the anime.
(Or are these shots to destroy the islands considered to be Big Bang attacks?)

Today I was able to try dragon ball saga and that was kind of weird.
Namu was seriously strong and had an automatic cutscene-attack that really hurt and so I lost over and over again until on another try Namu rushed out of the ring O_O
Then I tried again and this happens several times, I think, this is kind of a bug there.
When he uses dragon rush (or this 1.5x faster thing), he often goes "Ring out".
I couldn't try this AI-"bug" very often, as I don't own the game and just played it at a friend's.

Anyone else noticed that?

And yeah, something else comes to my mind: Arale is godlike, simply superb, I really love this character and the facial expressions

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:22 pm

kaioken12 wrote:I was just wondering: Does Cell Form 2 really have Big Bang again?

Well, sort of. In one video showcasing Cell's moves, Cell Form 2 actually has "Big Bang Crush"