How Califla made Gohan look pathetic

[Kataphrut]

Goku has always respected Gohan's scholarly tendencies. He's encouraged him whenever he tries to get stronger because he knows what he's capable of, but apart from with Cell, Goku doesn't force his son to fight, or put him down for being soft the way Vegeta, or even Piccolo do.

I'm sure Goku enjoys having Caulifla around as a little mini-me to train, but that isn't going to reflect worse on Gohan in his eyes, because he's not judgmental like that. Besides, Gohan's been on a roll lately. He's gotten stronger than ever, he did his best to take charge of the Universe 7 team, lost cause though it may be. He even gave Goku a good fight in Blue in episode 90, while Goku's still going through Baby's First forms with Caulifla. Gohan may come out of the arc looking better, we'll see.

[Olympian]

Eh Gohan always had a clear defined personality than diverted from Gokus since the beginning of Z, i never expected him to turn out like Goku
Goten in the other hand... I was expecting Goten to turn like Goku in his love for fights, especially since the beginning of buus arc he was hyped by chichi to have the same careless personality as goku
I really hate what they did to him on EoZ (part of the reason why i hate EoZ and hope it gets retconned), he became a punk. At least Gohan had being a scholar going for him and when push comes to shove he always comes through. Trunks while slacking on his training at least he runs the biggest corporation in the world and doesn't waste his life chasing girls.

Had goten became a martial artist like goku, his life would have some meaning, if yamcha was a saiyan Teen Goten is what he would look like. It feels like Gotens is the Saiyans Yamcha

Try to actually make sense and not compare characters who have nothing to do with each other.

Goten never had a character arc because he was virtually pulled outta nowhere.

[pacz360]

Gohan is a much more interesting than Caulifla, Gohan got his own personality, he is more peaceful and smart than most characters, he also shows to be a family man, a great husband and father, something that is rarely seen in Dragon Ball characters, perhaps Vegeta shows these qualities but, only in Super, while he didnt have the same love for fighting that Goku, Vegeta or Piccolo got, he knows that he is really strong, and will step in to fight if he is needed. His comeback was hinted and foreshadowed when he asked Piccolo to train him again, he was slowly built to this moment.
Also the fact that he is different from his father makes him a better character, Goten for example is Goku as a kid, and he is really boring.

Caulifla on the other hand, is the same character than Goku but female, I mean she is not original or nothing, it really bores me, and it seems they are really forcing Caulifla on our faces and feels really rushed, I mean even Cabba, Kale, Roshi, 17, Freeza and Jiren got more buit up to this moment

Lets be honest with ourselves, after this tournament Gohan will go back to be a non-character, nerdy, stay-at-home dad. While Caulifla on the other hand will mostly become a reaccuring character much like Cabba is.

Nothing implies that'll be the case and gohan will still be more important than her don't delude yourself

[pacz360]

Also if this thread is gonna be a bash gohan character thread than this shit might as well be locked

[Cabba]

Try to actually make sense and not compare characters who have nothing to do with each other.

Goten never had a character arc because he was virtually pulled outta nowhere.

What are you talking about, ever since his introduction in the majn arc Goten was hyped for his goku like traits and personaluty, he even looked like Goku ffs!
Its completely out of character for him to quit fights and become a generic horny teen

Gohan on the other hand, it made sense for him to put training aside since his life goals were to be a scholar this was stated since the first episode of Z when he was introduced

[Freeza9000]

If we're talking about how Caulifla casually attained SSJ2, then yes.

[Whatever]

Try to actually make sense and not compare characters who have nothing to do with each other.

Goten never had a character arc because he was virtually pulled outta nowhere.

What are you talking about, ever since his introduction in the majn arc Goten was hyped for his goku like traits and personaluty, he even looked like Goku ffs!
Its completely out of character for him to quit fights and become a generic horny teen

Gohan on the other hand, it made sense for him to put training aside since his life goals were to be a scholar this was stated since the first episode of Z when he was introduced

Goten barely has a character,his main use was to fusion fodder and Trunks sidekick,so i don't think its accurate to say its out of character for him.

Nothing implies that'll be the case and gohan will still be more important than her don't delude yourself

So far Kaulifla has been more important and had more focus than Gohan,so the proof is there.
Its also funny you do the same thing you blame the other user for,you are the one deluding yourself in this case.

Also if this thread is gonna be a bash gohan character thread than this shit might as well be locked

Where did you see that?Or is it that hard for you to see people say anything negative about your favourite character even if its true?

[Kinokima]

Where did you see that?Or is it that hard for you to see people say anything negative about your favourite character even if its true?

Again there is a difference between critique which should be against the writing and saying a character looks pathetic because of a random other character. So yes the point of this thread is character bashing. And no people don’t like to see their favorite characters bashed.

Frankly I don’t care to see any character bashed.

It seems in Dragon Ball fandom a character is either

* Gary Stu or Mary Sue because they are strong. I mean yesterday I saw even Goku get called a Gary Stu lol
* Pathetic or an embarassement because they don’t train or lose fights

If a character does something wrong they are attacked mercilessly for it. Or “fans” exaggerate a character’s faults to a ridiculous level. Even though a well written character shouldn’t be perfect. Their personality quirks and faults make them compelling characters.

I have never seen such “amazing character analysis” before than I have in the Dragon Ball fandom. But yes you are right people just don’t like negative comments.

[BWri]

Try to actually make sense and not compare characters who have nothing to do with each other.

Goten never had a character arc because he was virtually pulled outta nowhere.

What are you talking about, ever since his introduction in the majn arc Goten was hyped for his goku like traits and personaluty, he even looked like Goku ffs!
Its completely out of character for him to quit fights and become a generic horny teen

Gohan on the other hand, it made sense for him to put training aside since his life goals were to be a scholar this was stated since the first episode of Z when he was introduced

Nah, Goten was Goten. He's little like Goku. Goten is literally a normal child with Saiyan DNA. Goku was freaking martial arts Tarzan. Big difference. Goten has his family which has changed his life from Goku's a lot. When you think about it, his personality at the EoZ makes perfect sensse and is likely what Toriyama planned for him all along.

[SsjCookie]

It's all a farce really, true we haven't seen much impressive things of Gohan in this arc but i have the feeling they are saving him for last.

[TheMikado]

So who's more pathetic?

Gohan
Cabba
Goten
GT Trunks when compared to Future Trunks?

<-Raditz fans?

[pacz360]

Try to actually make sense and not compare characters who have nothing to do with each other.

Goten never had a character arc because he was virtually pulled outta nowhere.

What are you talking about, ever since his introduction in the majn arc Goten was hyped for his goku like traits and personaluty, he even looked like Goku ffs!
Its completely out of character for him to quit fights and become a generic horny teen

Gohan on the other hand, it made sense for him to put training aside since his life goals were to be a scholar this was stated since the first episode of Z when he was introduced

Goten barely has a character,his main use was to fusion fodder and Trunks sidekick,so i don't think its accurate to say its out of character for him.

Nothing implies that'll be the case and gohan will still be more important than her don't delude yourself

So far Kaulifla has been more important and had more focus than Gohan,so the proof is there.
Its also funny you do the same thing you blame the other user for,you are the one deluding yourself in this case.

Also if this thread is gonna be a bash gohan character thread than this shit might as well be locked

Where did you see that?Or is it that hard for you to see people say anything negative about your favourite character even if its true?

That doesn't mean shit those two had more focus than vegeta but we know damn well vegeta will be more important than those two
Gohan tease wanting to achieve a transformation above ultimate and this tournament is his return to prominence
So yeah gohan will be more important than them given he along with vegeta are main stays than the girls are
No because gohan has flaws as a character that I can understand but this thread doesn't strike me as oh well let's talk about calm just bash it and go hahahaha he's pathetic I seen this shit before and and this thread no difference
But hey be a smartass if you want

[fadeddreams5]

How anyone can like Gohan in Super boggles my mind. This character is so bland and terrible, I'd rather see Yamcha or Goten and Trunks. Face it, he will NEVER be written like he was in any DBZ arc.

[BlueBasilisk]

So who's more pathetic?

Gohan
Cabba
Goten
GT Trunks when compared to Future Trunks?

<-Raditz fans?

GT Piccolo?

[Kinokima]

How anyone can like Gohan in Super boggles my mind. This character is so bland and terrible, I'd rather see Yamcha or Goten and Trunks. Face it, he will NEVER be written like he was in any DBZ arc.

I like Gohan in Super. It boggles my mind that people just don’t get that people may have a different opinion from them. I don’t like characters because they are cool or win fights. Gohan is sweet and nerdy and I adore him.

Like I said I don’t think Gohan would be a good main character . I can see why they went back to Goku. But that doesn’t mean I don’t love who Gohan is as a character.

Nor do I think all these new characters are going to replace Gohan or any other main stay character from Dragon Ball. That is the other new ridiculous comment I am seeing on these boards that characters are going to be replaced. Again this is coming out of nowhere.

With as many episodes as Super is new characters can be introduced without replacing anyone.

[Lord Beerus]

I... really don't understand the issue. Caulfila is her own character and does her own things. While Gohan is his own character and does his own things. I don't understand why the comparison even needed to be made between the two of them.

[Whatever]

How anyone can like Gohan in Super boggles my mind. This character is so bland and terrible, I'd rather see Yamcha or Goten and Trunks. Face it, he will NEVER be written like he was in any DBZ arc.

Thank god he will not,in each main dbz saga Gohan was a different character,at the least in super he is consistent with his personality.

GT Piccolo?

Despite how GT treated him,he still ended up being more usefull than GT Goten and Gohan,the irony.

[Olympian]

What are you talking about, ever since his introduction in the majn arc Goten was hyped for his goku like traits and personaluty, he even looked like Goku ffs!
Its completely out of character for him to quit fights and become a generic horny teen

Goku like qualities? Well, I do recall he liked to eat and looked exactly like his pop with a similar age.

Gohan on the other hand, it made sense for him to put training aside since his life goals were to be a scholar this was stated since the first episode of Z when he was introduced

And his character arc revolved around having the bigger potential out of everyone which culminates in the Cell finale. He`s had a character arc. A long one and during a time where Toryama killed Goku twice when the manga was supposed to end.

I`m not against or for Gohan retiring as a figther, we`re all aware that if he didn`t take over Goku back then, he`s not taking anything now. But when you talk about "character", Goten does not have any character arc. He came out of nowhere, was awarded SS out of the blue, was awarded fusion and then puff. Gone.

By the time the original Z anime ends, they had to drag his arse to the Bodukai where he loses to his little niece.

[Michsi]

I don't think this comparison is fair. From the very beginning Gohan personality and attitude towards fighting was meant to contrast Goku's battle loving nature. But he was never described as this battle genius the way Caulifla has been, nor has he ever shown her level of childish enthusiasm.

[namekiansaiyan]

I don't think this comparison is fair. From the very beginning Gohan personality and attitude towards fighting was meant to contrast Goku's battle loving nature. But he was never described as this battle genius the way Caulifla has been, nor has he ever shown her level of childish enthusiasm.

What rubbish! They are both useless fighters.