Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Post by Vados_chan » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:37 pm

Kale goes from tanking SSB Kamehameha to getting joked on by SSG? And Kafla better bet at least SSBK

I hate DBS powerlevels.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:38 pm

Doctor. wrote:Oh, may the Lord have mercy on our souls for we are not ready.
ZombieVito wrote:Finally concrete proof that base Vegetto is indeed more powerful than SS3 Goku in the Boo arc.
If we go by this, then base Vegetto would be stronger than SSG Goku.
FT arc SSB Vegetto is GoD tier so it does fit.

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Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:38 pm

Doctor. wrote:Oh, may the Lord have mercy on our souls for we are not ready.
ZombieVito wrote:Finally concrete proof that base Vegetto is indeed more powerful than SS3 Goku in the Boo arc.
If we go by this, then base Vegetto would be stronger than SSG Goku.
Wasn't it implied in BoG that SSG should be above Vegetto?

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Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:39 pm

Vados_chan wrote:Kale goes from tanking SSB Kamehameha to getting joked on by SSG? And Kafla better bet at least SSBK

I hate DBS powerlevels.
At this point I'm starting to think that the DBS writers don't watch the episodes directed by the other writers.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:39 pm

Oh my God... what kind of fucking powerlevel jump happened there? They went from being owned by SSJG to speedblitizing it.
Anyways Kale was able to control and maintain her berserk powers in her slim form now (like it wasnt obvious from the start)

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Post by Doctor. » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:40 pm

Hakaishin Liquir wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Oh, may the Lord have mercy on our souls for we are not ready.
ZombieVito wrote:Finally concrete proof that base Vegetto is indeed more powerful than SS3 Goku in the Boo arc.
If we go by this, then base Vegetto would be stronger than SSG Goku.
Wasn't it implied in BoG that SSG should be above Vegetto?
Yes, which is why this power boost is dumb. Kafla should be always weaker than SSG unless she gets access to God forms of her own. SSG is a ridiculous boost.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:44 pm

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Lord Beerus wrote:- SSJ2 Goku battles SSJ Kale and SSJ2 Caulifla and it's as you would expect. It's the same thing from last week... the momentum changes constantly.
- SSJB Vegeta punches Topposin the face and send him flying
- SSJ2 Goku, who appears very much on the ropes, then transforms into SSJG and kicks Kale and Caulifla's butts at the same time. Like, they barely get any offence.
- SSJG Goku then literally blows them away at the same time, and it seem like Kale and Caulifla will be out of bounds. But then... Caulilfa and Kale fuse. KAFLA IS BORN.
- Base Kalfa then blitz pasts SSJG Goku, deflects a ki blast from him and then punches him in the face... holy shit..
Kale also deflected the blast from SSG Goku and was trading fists with him for a bit. It's still not terribly clear where they stack up to each other since it looked like neither was taking damage from the other's attack. :eh:
It's super weird. Like, they trade a few punches, but at the same time SSJG Goku was still clowning the both of them. What was going on? :think:

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:45 pm

Oh, and the NEP shows SSJG Goku getting smacked around some more. By Kalfa I assume. And whether it happens while Kalfa is still in her base form isn't made clear. Then we see Goku go SSJB and SSJ(?) Kalfa seems to shit her pants at the sight of it...

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Post by IKevinX » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:45 pm

Until next week arrives I will be assuming that God Goku was using his bare minimum as a ssjgod, after all he didn't encase himself with the fire aura throughout all the fight and because he's injured.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:47 pm

Told you all his line on ep 100 was important when he said "I'll raise my ki a little now"

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Post by Doctor. » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:48 pm

I think this just may top the Spirit Sword in terms of stupidity. When I thought Toei finally realized how big of a boost SSG is when he was fighting Kale & Caulifla, they go and do this right afterwards.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:54 pm

Hakaishin Liquir wrote:
Vados_chan wrote:Kale goes from tanking SSB Kamehameha to getting joked on by SSG? And Kafla better bet at least SSBK

I hate DBS powerlevels.
At this point I'm starting to think that the DBS writers don't watch the episodes directed by the other writers.
It should be noted that Kale tanked the Kamehameha from SSJB Goku in her SSJ Berserker. Which she didn't use to fight in the episode. She was fighting SSJ2/SSJG Goku in just her regular SSJ form. She bound to get her ass kicked in that state from SSJG Goku.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:58 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Hakaishin Liquir wrote:
Vados_chan wrote:Kale goes from tanking SSB Kamehameha to getting joked on by SSG? And Kafla better bet at least SSBK

I hate DBS powerlevels.
At this point I'm starting to think that the DBS writers don't watch the episodes directed by the other writers.
It should be noted that Kale tanked the Kamehameha from SSJB Goku in her SSJ Berserker. Which she didn't use to fight in the episode. She was fighting SSJ2/SSJG Goku in just her regular SSJ form. She bound to get her ass kicked in that state from SSJG Goku.
She absobred the power, they said she can maintain her berserk in her slim form now hence her powerup.

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Post by brett wheeler » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:03 pm

Upon further analyses I assume the problem comes in on context, ssg is an almighty form but goku is exaughsted so maby he can only bring out so much of its power plus he obviously suppressed himself in general to not kill kale and califla, even still base kafla doing anything to god is far fetched ssj ( controlled berserk power ) kafla I can see easy, I can see that beating ssb as well but base, base should be well above 3 sure but not god tier, agh this is confusing, here's hoping next episode goku kicks it up a notch and beats base kafla in ssg and when they go ssj ( agian controlled berserk ssj )is when he goes blue.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:06 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Hakaishin Liquir wrote: At this point I'm starting to think that the DBS writers don't watch the episodes directed by the other writers.
It should be noted that Kale tanked the Kamehameha from SSJB Goku in her SSJ Berserker. Which she didn't use to fight in the episode. She was fighting SSJ2/SSJG Goku in just her regular SSJ form. She bound to get her ass kicked in that state from SSJG Goku.
She absobred the power, they said she can maintain her berserk in her slim form now hence her powerup.
* Goes back to re-watch episode *

You're right. They did say that. SSJ Kale is basically SSJ Beserker Kale. :think:

Well... they could have... I guess she... perhaps Goku...

I'm struggling here... :crazy:

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:09 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: It should be noted that Kale tanked the Kamehameha from SSJB Goku in her SSJ Berserker. Which she didn't use to fight in the episode. She was fighting SSJ2/SSJG Goku in just her regular SSJ form. She bound to get her ass kicked in that state from SSJG Goku.
She absobred the power, they said she can maintain her berserk in her slim form now hence her powerup.
* Goes back to re-watch episode *

You're right. They did say that. SSJ Kale is basically SSJ Beserker Kale. :think:

Well... they could have... I guess she... perhaps Goku...

I'm struggling here... :crazy:
I aint touchin that one with a forty foot pole.....

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Post by MasterVampire » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:09 pm

This thread needs to be closed.

DBS powerlevels are a mess

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Post by ZombieVito » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:09 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:Told you all his line on ep 100 was important when he said "I'll raise my ki a little now"
Yeah, this.

I'm amazed people ignore it.
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Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:09 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: It should be noted that Kale tanked the Kamehameha from SSJB Goku in her SSJ Berserker. Which she didn't use to fight in the episode. She was fighting SSJ2/SSJG Goku in just her regular SSJ form. She bound to get her ass kicked in that state from SSJG Goku.
She absobred the power, they said she can maintain her berserk in her slim form now hence her powerup.
* Goes back to re-watch episode *

You're right. They did say that. SSJ Kale is basically SSJ Beserker Kale. :think:

Well... they could have... I guess she... perhaps Goku...

I'm struggling here... :crazy:
It's just Toei pulling a Piccolo again. In one episode Piccolo is beating current SSJ2 Gohan and then a few episodes later he's looking inferior to base Gohan. The writers clearly don't discuss power scaling much with each other.

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Post by Saiyan007 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:12 pm

Doctor. wrote:I think this just may top the Spirit Sword in terms of stupidity. When I thought Toei finally realized how big of a boost SSG is when he was fighting Kale & Caulifla, they go and do this right afterwards.
To be fair Kale herself was near God level

So fusion between Kale who is low god tier level and Caulifla should put her on On SSJG level

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