Complete BT3 Info and Discussion Thread [UPDATED 10/02/07]

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:59 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
Daizensushi-x wrote:
The Pilaf Machine’s profile refers to Pilaf as a “brilliant scientist”. That’s certainly news to me…I wonder if he and Bardock went to the same university.
Wow, that was really funny. No sarcasm. Pilaf, a brilliant scientist...
Well.... he did build those rather nifty mechs didn't he?

And Dragon Radar that was better than Bulma's. And a way to block Dragon Radar. And an orbiting satellite system that can pick up images AND sound anywhere on the planet.

DNA · Post by **DNA** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:19 pm

Pilaf is as awesome as he is silly :3

kaioken12 · Post by **kaioken12** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:35 pm

DNA wrote:Is Great Ape a transformation just for Young Goku, or does Young Gohan have it too?

Nope, just Goku. And just Goku Kid DB and not Goku Kid GT (although he does have a tail, but that's just a costume).

Kunzait_83 wrote: On the topic of gameplay though, I read back a ways and at first I was sort of worried by some of the gameplay elements being revealed by others; stuff like Oozaru and other giant characters being rendered immune to physical attacks from ALL characters once again (which is REALLY stupid; BT2 handled this much better).

Actually, it was better in BT2 with all these things like Giants, Oozarus, Brolly...
But anyway, BT3 has some kind of this in it though.
As far as I could try, I could not land good punches on an Oozaru being SSJ2, but when I entered Max Power, I could do it (also the fireballs had some effect).

I am not sure if this is always that way, as I don't have the game myself yet, but you can try anyway to enter Max Power Mode and then try to hit these things - worked (vs. Oozaru and being SSJ2 Goku) for me.

DNA · Post by **DNA** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:53 pm

kaioken12 wrote: Nope, just Goku. And just Goku Kid DB and not Goku Kid GT (although he does have a tail, but that's just a costume).

If you don't own the game, how can you be sure? Not that it surprises me or something, I'm expecting that, I was just keeping my hopes up.
About Goku GT, it's better that way, is Ozaru is just a rampaging yellow Ozaru with no relevant moves. Also, too many forms for one character.

kaioken12 · Post by **kaioken12** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:12 pm

DNA wrote:
kaioken12 wrote: Nope, just Goku. And just Goku Kid DB and not Goku Kid GT (although he does have a tail, but that's just a costume).
If you don't own the game, how can you be sure? Not that it surprises me or something, I'm expecting that, I was just keeping my hopes up.
About Goku GT, it's better that way, is Ozaru is just a rampaging yellow Ozaru with no relevant moves. Also, too many forms for one character.

I can be sure because a friend of mine has it imported and I tried it with him together several times by now, not very often, but these things I mentioned here and in some posts before, are things, that I tried.

GT Goku: Well, I personally hate GT, so I only used him to kick him around - an Oozaru transformation more or less wouldn't interest me in that case

I just once tried him to justify that the transformation to Oozaru really doesn't work and it doesn't.

As for Gohan, he has no tail.
But then again, Vegeta (early) with his late namek costume doesn't have one either.
So I just tried and saw that Gohan could not transform into an Oozaru.

As I mentioned before, there are also some illogical things about this transformation anyway - for example if Vegeta uses his artificial moon and transforms. Then if you are the opponent and play for example as Radditz, you cannot transform, too. You would need your own artificial / real moon for that.

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece · Post by **Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:55 pm

The S wrote:I can't believe nobody reported this already:

http://dbzs.jp/meteor/p_characters/16_arale.html

Blue Shogun

Discuss.

I think Blue looks like a pedophile. But, of course, his face always makes him look like that...

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:04 pm

Herms wrote:The Pilaf Machine’s profile refers to Pilaf as a “brilliant scientist”. That’s certainly news to me…I wonder if he and Bardock went to the same university.

Also of interest are “Baby Vageta” and the “Pilaf Robo Union” (historians might remember them for the instrumental role they played in the robot labor strikes of 1924).

This still doesn't beat Spopobitch.

Demi · Post by **Demi** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:25 pm

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:
The S wrote:I can't believe nobody reported this already:

http://dbzs.jp/meteor/p_characters/16_arale.html

Blue Shogun

Discuss.
I think Blue looks like a pedophile. But, of course, his face always makes him look like that...

He is a pedophile...

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:17 pm

Coming from a man who sold his copy of Budokai Tenkaichi 1 and 2 it's good to know he likes number three! I was having my doubts but from that review I think this may be a good turn-around for the franchise. I have my doubts they will do a number 4 though. Isn't it weird how DBZ fighting games never go past 2 sequels since they started making them? Butoden comes to mind as one of the earliest examples.

HyperBlaze · Post by **HyperBlaze** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:43 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:Coming from a man who sold his copy of Budokai Tenkaichi 1 and 2 it's good to know he likes number three! I was having my doubts but from that review I think this may be a good turn-around for the franchise. I have my doubts they will do a number 4 though. Isn't it weird how DBZ fighting games never go past 2 sequels since they started making them? Butoden comes to mind as one of the earliest examples.

Why did you sell Sparking NEO?

{silly}

So your baseing your choice of buying the game on what "someone else says?"

Wether the game is superb or not only you yourself should make the choice to get the game and make judgement for yourself!

Screw what anyone else thinks! I'm an individual and reguardless if it's good or bad it's all on me but theres no denying that this game is INCREDIBLE!

(sips grape juice..)

Not like I care about reviews but Famitsu magazine who's notorious for their extremely tough scoring/reviewing gave the game a 33 out of 40 THATS GREAT!

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:50 pm

HyperBlaze wrote:
Why did you sell Sparking NEO? {silly}

So your baseing your choice of buying the game on what "someone else says?"

Wether the game is superb or not only you yourself should make the choice to get the game and make judgement for yourself!

Screw what anyone else thinks! I'm an individual and reguardless if it's good or bad it's all on me but theres no denying that this game is INCREDIBLE! (sips grape juice..)

Not like I care about reviews but Famitsu magazine who's notorious for their extremely tough scoring/reviewing gave the game a 33 out of 40 THATS GREAT!

He sold Sparking Neo not me; I can see how the wording would get confusing there. In fact I bought the game 3 friggin' times. Once for the PS2, once for the Japanese version and once for the Wii version. As for letting someone else's opinion effect my own I was just noting how Mr.Troy didn’t fully enjoy the past two games so if he thinks this one is good it says something to the quality of the game. Let's not get too snippy here please.

SuperSaiyan3Goku · Post by **SuperSaiyan3Goku** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:43 pm

Sshadow5001 wrote:It seems that there is a customization feature to some extent.
SSJ aura Pan!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3786oL9pySk

Wow. Finally, I can have a Red-aura SSJ4/SSJ5 Gogeta!

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:39 pm

SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:
Sshadow5001 wrote:It seems that there is a customization feature to some extent.
SSJ aura Pan!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3786oL9pySk
Wow. Finally, I can have a Red-aura SSJ4/SSJ5 Gogeta!

You've read my mind. I also wonder whether or not we can add auras with lightning effects, since Super Vegetto is supposed to be surrounded by lightning anyways.

A video review of the game from Shishi-Rendan. (No clue who they are.) I'm actually not too annoyed by the reviewer's unprojected voice, but why the hell would they use a remixed FFVII BGM with a DBZ game review? (Don't get me wrong, FFVII's one of my favorite games.) Whatever, I think it's worth a listen. Wii owners should be warned, since it's apparent that they haven't tried the game for that particular console just yet.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:31 am

kvon wrote:You've read my mind. I also wonder whether or not we can add auras with lightning effects, since Super Vegetto is supposed to be surrounded by lightning anyways.

Umm, no he's not.

Vegetto had a few bolts when he first transformed as a side effect of the transformation, but that was it.

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:49 am

Xyex wrote:
kvon wrote:You've read my mind. I also wonder whether or not we can add auras with lightning effects, since Super Vegetto is supposed to be surrounded by lightning anyways.
Umm, no he's not. Vegetto had a few bolts when he first transformed as a side effect of the transformation, but that was it.

Ah...I see. It's quite apparent that I'm still a n00b.

Come to think of it, a majority of transformations in this game involved a few bolts here and there during transformations. Again, still a n00b. Having a rank of "Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie" is very misleading.

gohanku · Post by **gohanku** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:24 am

The S wrote:I can't believe nobody reported this already:

http://dbzs.jp/meteor/p_characters/16_arale.html

Arale
Blue Shogun
Pilaf Machine
Pilaf Machine Combined
Baby Vegeta
Super Baby Vegeta stage 1
Super Baby Vegeta stage 2
Golden Oozaru Baby Vegeta
Super Jinzouningen #17
Yi Xinglong
Super Yi Xinglong

Discuss.

All of them are great, expect for Super Baby Vegeta 2, who looks like he is wearing very tight spandex... Blue looks like a pedophile, more than usual, I don't know if that's good or not.

The review is okay... But too soft for my taste. Pretty mad that the giant wall is more BT again, BT2 had it nail down!

Teclo · Post by **Teclo** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:40 am

I noticed a pretty cool thing as I messed around in Practice Mode last night; while "early Goku" only has the basic Genki Dama that he uses against Oozaru Vegeta, "mid Goku" (and presumably "late Goku") has the normal Genki Dama - so far, so what, right? The cool thing is that you no longer have to use "Give me your energy!" to activate the move and can do it just with Goku's ki but you can do "Give me your energy!" several times to build up the damage of the Genki Dama. I think using just Goku's ki it does around about 15,000 damage but after doing all the "Give me your energy!"s that it lets you do, it does about 30,000 damage or more. Now it really feels like the "real" Genki Dama.

On the other hand they've really screwed up rush attacks; with rush dependant characters in BT2, rushes would often knock the enemy flying off into the distance. That was perfect to dash after them and carry on a combo before ending the combo with another rush. It might sound cheap but it was considerably more skillful than just spamming ranged attacks at each other. Now rushes seem to just drop the enemy down onto the ground again so you can't carry on with a combo. Combine that with the fact that they can also be stopped by just a regular block now and they've made rush-dependant characters even worse than they used to be and shifted the focus even more onto "lol I are ssj4 gogeta!!!" beam-spamming style play.

Adey · Post by **Adey** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:35 am

Stopping the rushes takes your ki away, if you try to block a rush with 1 ki bar you're going to be in a bad situation, so it's a pretty good tradeoff.

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:12 am

Man I can't wait for this game. It's still scheduled for an NA release of Nov 11th right?

On a side note...
SONIC IS IN BRAWL and I've been running around like a crazy person all morning.

The S · Post by **The S** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:27 am

Humpski wrote:Man I can't wait for this game. It's still scheduled for an NA release of Nov 11th right?

On a side note...
SONIC IS IN BRAWL and I've been running around like a crazy person all morning.

Yes! My coworker and I have been bouncing off the walls. I'm actually going to PASS UP BUDOKAI TENKAICHI 3 to buy a Wii now. This is even greater than Arale being revealed.