"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kaiosama]

For a reason Freeza is there, to make sure Kalefla doesnt escape, Jiren will probably be busy with Vegeta.

Toppo is not going to let Vegeta go anywhere near Jiren. Vegeta fans better hope so anyway.

I am going to predict that the Kamehameha does not finish Kefla but they land right next to Frieza and he does finish them.

Jiren will go back to meditating once he realises Goku has lost Ultra Instinct again.

Vegeta fighting Jiren would be hilarious. Better to just let him beat Toppo and then take an exit than getting humiliated by Jiren.

[Scsigs]

Shut up.

Is this you're answer to everything you don't agree with ?

It is for Kingdom Hearts fans who quote Roxas' answer to Riku in KHII, so why not?

[sintzu]

Shut up.

Is this you're answer to everything you don't agree with ?

It is for Kingdom Hearts fans who quote Roxas' answer to Riku in KHII, so why not?

I've never played any of them so I wouldn't know that.

[Noah]

So we might not get much twists in this tournament, I thought we would see someone other than Goku that could be on pair with Jiren.

[perucho1990]

So we might not get much twists in this tournament, I thought we would see someone other than Goku that could be on pair with Jiren.

Maybe the Cicadas if they get to fuse in their own way.

Reminder that this thursday we get WSJ Episode 117 preview, they will likely confirm Kefla elimination.

[HeroR]

So we might not get much twists in this tournament, I thought we would see someone other than Goku that could be on pair with Jiren.

That was wishful thinking. You can tell just by looking at the intro that Jiren was the lone super fighter along with Goku.

[Noah]

That was wishful thinking. You can tell just by looking at the intro that Jiren was the lone super fighter along with Goku.

Sure, but that's too damn obvious. I like to see new antagonists coming out the hidden and providing plot twists.

[HeroR]

That was wishful thinking. You can tell just by looking at the intro that Jiren was the lone super fighter along with Goku.

Sure, but that's too damn obvious. I like to see new antagonists coming out the hidden and providing plot twists.

The only time in Dragon Ball that a new antagonist came out of nowhere was in the Androids/Cell Saga and that was because Toriyama's former and current editors hated the androids, which is how we got stuck with Cell. And Jiren isn't even the main antagonist since that role would be closer to Zen'o.

[Michsi]

That was wishful thinking. You can tell just by looking at the intro that Jiren was the lone super fighter along with Goku.

Sure, but that's too damn obvious. I like to see new antagonists coming out the hidden and providing plot twists.

The only time in Dragon Ball that a new antagonist came out of nowhere was in the Androids/Cell Saga and that was because Toriyama's former and current editors hated the androids, which is how we got stuck with Cell. And Jiren isn't even the main antagonist since that role would be closer to Zen'o.

I think that this misconception comes from that whole "work of the gods is over" promo, which was interpreted as Goku & co. going against the gods at some point. That, and that there seems to be something else going on with the angels, but that doesn't need to be addressed this arc.

Intros can be changed though if they don't want to spoil too much, like Buu getting switched with Freeza.

[HeroR]

I think that this misconception comes from that whole "work of the gods is over" promo, which was interpreted as Goku & co. going against the gods at some point. That, and that there seems to be something else going on with the angels, but that doesn't need to be addressed this arc.

Intros can be changed though if they don't want to spoil too much, like Buu getting switched with Freeza.

Except Jiren vs. Goku is 80% of the intro, while Buu only took up a small space and wasn't shown fighting or doing moves like everyone else.

Also, the promo also read as 'the work of the gods is completed', which aligns more with what we know. That and the 'something terrible' was closer to the interpretation of 'something shocking'.

[Michsi]

I think that this misconception comes from that whole "work of the gods is over" promo, which was interpreted as Goku & co. going against the gods at some point. That, and that there seems to be something else going on with the angels, but that doesn't need to be addressed this arc.

Intros can be changed though if they don't want to spoil too much, like Buu getting switched with Freeza.

Except Jiren vs. Goku is 80% of the intro, while Buu only took up a small space and wasn't shown fighting or doing moves like everyone else.

Also, the promo also read as 'the work of the gods is completed', which aligns more with what we know. That and the 'something terrible' was closer to the interpretation of 'something shocking'.

Well yeah, but there is some precedence. Jiren vs Goku did get a special after all.

My only question now is, with Kefla supposedly out, and Goku achieving UI again, who is left for him to battle? I hope he won't go back to recuperating for several episodes, but if Jiren is going after Goku now, I doubt their fight will last unitl March.

[namekiansaiyan]

I think that this misconception comes from that whole "work of the gods is over" promo, which was interpreted as Goku & co. going against the gods at some point. That, and that there seems to be something else going on with the angels, but that doesn't need to be addressed this arc.

Intros can be changed though if they don't want to spoil too much, like Buu getting switched with Freeza.

Except Jiren vs. Goku is 80% of the intro, while Buu only took up a small space and wasn't shown fighting or doing moves like everyone else.

Also, the promo also read as 'the work of the gods is completed', which aligns more with what we know. That and the 'something terrible' was closer to the interpretation of 'something shocking'.

Well yeah, but there is some precedence. Jiren vs Goku did get a special after all.

My only question now is, with Kefla supposedly out, and Goku achieving UI again, who is left for him to battle? I hope he won't go back to recuperating for several episodes, but if Jiren is going after Goku now, I doubt their fight will last unitl March.

We know that Goku is not facing Jiren though based on episode previews. Also the arc ends in March and not the tournament and this arc is probably going to have a few wrap up episodes.

[SSKC]

I see a lot of people dismissing the idea of Vegeta fighting Jiren, but realistically I don't think there is any way that Vegeta isn't hiding a power up.

He has had no problem acknowledging Goku as superior to him in the past, yet even after seeing UI he is still confident he's the strongest saiyan left. Also his reaction to the female saiyans fusing was calm, seemingly not concerned about their power or anything like that. A lot of people play it off as arrogance on Vegeta's part, but it just doesn't fit his character currently to be arrogant like that without having something to base it off of. I mean, he isn't even paying attention to Toppo, yet he's been shown to have the upper hand in that fight.

Either it's bad writing, or Vegeta has a power up on the level of UI. I cant see the writers leaving a huge gap between Goku and Vegeta like that if Vegeta only has SSB still. Which also backs up the idea of Vegeta fighting Jiren after he defeats Toppo here.

[IndieBooToo]

I see a lot of people dismissing the idea of Vegeta fighting Jiren, but realistically I don't think there is any way that Vegeta isn't hiding a power up.

He has had no problem acknowledging Goku as superior to him in the past, yet even after seeing UI he is still confident he's the strongest saiyan left. Also his reaction to the female saiyans fusing was calm, seemingly not concerned about their power or anything like that. A lot of people play it off as arrogance on Vegeta's part, but it just doesn't fit his character currently to be arrogant like that without having something to base it off of. I mean, he isn't even paying attention to Toppo, yet he's been shown to have the upper hand in that fight.

Either it's bad writing, or Vegeta has a power up on the level of UI. I cant see the writers leaving a huge gap between Goku and Vegeta like that if Vegeta only has SSB still. Which also backs up the idea of Vegeta fighting Jiren after he defeats Toppo here.

Vegeta fanboys are the most delusional. Toppo isn't fighting at full power either. Also Vegeta will only job to Jiren. Vegeta is hiding nothing. He's just being his cocky self. It's just desperate wishes from Vegeta fanboys for the Prince of No One to not get embarrassed by Jiren but we know it's going to happen.

[HeroR]

Well yeah, but there is some precedence. Jiren vs Goku did get a special after all.

My only question now is, with Kefla supposedly out, and Goku achieving UI again, who is left for him to battle? I hope he won't go back to recuperating for several episodes, but if Jiren is going after Goku now, I doubt their fight will last unitl March.

The special was just two episodes aired at once, not an actual special like Bardock or Trunks back in Z.

[perucho1990]

Well yeah, but there is some precedence. Jiren vs Goku did get a special after all.

My only question now is, with Kefla supposedly out, and Goku achieving UI again, who is left for him to battle? I hope he won't go back to recuperating for several episodes, but if Jiren is going after Goku now, I doubt their fight will last unitl March.

Those U3 robots that attacked him, they will combine like the Power Rangers megazord and become Blue level, you also have the Cicadas, and thats it I guess.

[HeroR]

Those U3 robots that attacked him, they will combine like the Power Rangers megazord and become Blue level, you also have the Cicadas, and thats it I guess.

I highly doubt that three robots that couldn't knock out a weakened base form Goku and got kicked off-scene by base form Cali will be anywhere near Blue level even if they merge.

[perucho1990]

I highly doubt that three robots that couldn't knock out a weakened base form Goku and got kicked off-scene by base form Cali will be anywhere near Blue level even if they merge.

Papparoni might give them another boost with his staff, Rita Repulsa/Zed style

[Michsi]

Well yeah, but there is some precedence. Jiren vs Goku did get a special after all.

My only question now is, with Kefla supposedly out, and Goku achieving UI again, who is left for him to battle? I hope he won't go back to recuperating for several episodes, but if Jiren is going after Goku now, I doubt their fight will last unitl March.

Those U3 robots that attacked him, they will combine like the Power Rangers megazord and become Blue level, you also have the Cicadas, and thats it I guess.

If U3 will indeed go after him I think Goku will do away with them fairly quickly this time. Out of all universes, U3 struck me as among the least interesting.

Yeah, Goku being absent from the summaries is suspicious, but he might simply not be the focus of those episodes.

I'm actually hoping the tournament gets interrupted somehow and the arc takes an unexpected turn. I've gotten a little tired of this format

[SSKC]

Vegeta fanboys are the most delusional. Toppo isn't fighting at full power either. Also Vegeta will only job to Jiren. Vegeta is hiding nothing. He's just being his cocky self. It's just desperate wishes from Vegeta fanboys for the Prince of No One to not get embarrassed by Jiren but we know it's going to happen.

Please show me the last time there was a gap in power to the extent of UI Goku and the rest of the main characters for any extended period of time. (Hint: it's not possible.)

Again, if Vegeta doesn't have a new form, or hasnt reached a new level of SSB then it's just very bad writing. Because after this arc, there are going to be more threats on the level of Jiren, so if Goku is the only one who can stand up to that level of antagonist then there is really no point for any of the other characters to be involved in the story at all.

If it's not Vegeta who gets a new transformation then it has to be Gohan. One of those two HAS to close the gap with Goku before this tournament is finished.