"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:57 am

Hawk9211 wrote:
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Hawk9211 wrote: Did not beerus traveled without whis when he went for dinosaur's meat ?
Given how fast Beerus is, he could have blintz his way to the planet before he ran out of air.
That is just nitpicking.
That isn't nitpicking. That is me saying that Beerus hasn't been showing surviving in a vacuum in the same way that Freeza can. Like in the anime, Goku can survived in a vacuum for a short time using his Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form given what he did in 87 with 17. Doesn't mean he can survived in a vacuum for an extended amount of time.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Legion » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:57 am

HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
Did not beerus traveled without whis when he went for dinosaur's meat ?
Given how fast Beerus is, he could have blintz his way to the planet before he ran out of air.
Dude..you really believe that the Gods can't survive in the space without the angels? .-. Also Beerus was fighting Goku underwater without a problem in episode 14....and he speak underwater in that episode.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:06 am

Legion wrote: Dude..you really believe that the Gods can't survive in the space without the angels? .-. Also Beerus was fighting Goku underwater without a problem in episode 14....and he speak underwater in that episode.
Being a god doesn't automatically mean you can survived in a vacuum.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by pacz360 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:21 am

HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
Did not beerus traveled without whis when he went for dinosaur's meat ?
Given how fast Beerus is, he could have blintz his way to the planet before he ran out of air.
pacz360 wrote: Beerus and champa was shown breathing in space in ROF.
You can't 'breathe' in space and if Beerus and Champa were talking, they weren't in a vacuum. That is one of the few laws of physics that Dragon Ball has stuck to.
Beerus was shown breathing in multiply times in space
Your making assumptions

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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:24 am

HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
Meshack wrote: What was the first battle in space?
The only one I can think is beerus vs. champa but that was hardly a battle.
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
What? Beerus went to Planet Mogina without Whis. Beerus was in space after he destroyed the planet in Episode 1 and Mogina. What you said makes no sense. The Angel doesn’t do a shield around the Hakaishin while in space. The Hakaishin can survive in space without the Angel.

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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:26 am

Jigurashi wrote:
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Jigurashi wrote: I'd say he has a personality after 109-111. Being stoic, aloof, arrogant, and detached are personality traits. It is "stiff" as fuck though lol.
Really. It's kind of annoying how people always see being stoic and calm as 'no personality'.
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We don't know his personality to compare it to Hit, the anime doesn't really show anything. But this actually gives us the idea why he's the leader of the group. He cares about others.
Toppo is the leader of the Pride Troopers.
I don't know why either. I get people finding him boring but no personality? The U6 Namekians are more appropriate examples of characters with no personality.
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Jigurashi wrote: I want enough of them to where we can at least have another battle in space.
What was the first battle in space?
Well sort of a battle in space with Goku VS Beerus but that was really within the Earth's atmosphere I believe.
It’s not really in space if it’s within the atmosphere. Gokuh and Beerus fought in the stratosphere.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:27 am

pacz360 wrote: Beerus was shown breathing in multiply times in space
Your making assumptions
I am no assumptions. You guys are by saying 'Beerus can breathe in space because he's a God of Destruction'. All I said that when Beerus is in space, he's bubbled by Whis.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:27 am

HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Given how fast Beerus is, he could have blintz his way to the planet before he ran out of air.
That is just nitpicking.
That isn't nitpicking. That is me saying that Beerus hasn't been showing surviving in a vacuum in the same way that Freeza can. Like in the anime, Goku can survived in a vacuum for a short time using his Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form given what he did in 87 with 17. Doesn't mean he can survived in a vacuum for an extended amount of time.
Dude, Beerus can survive in space. He’s a Hakaishin. Stop with your nonsense.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:28 am

Meshack wrote: Dude, Beerus can survive in space. He’s a Hakaishin. Stop with your nonsense.
Being a God of Destruction doesn't automatically mean that they can breathe in space.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Rebel Instinct » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:28 am

HeroR wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
Meshack wrote: What was the first battle in space?
The only one I can think is beerus vs. champa but that was hardly a battle.
I just want to note that Beerus and Champa fighting in space was in the manga, yet the anime never showed any God of Destruction able to survived in space without their angel making a bubble for them.
Beerus had a full conversation with Champa in the middle of deep space in episode 25. There were no visible bubbles from either Whis or Vados, just empty space around them.
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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:30 am

Rebel Instinct wrote:
Beerus had a full conversation with Champa in the middle of deep space in episode 25. There were no visible bubbles from either Whis or Vados, just empty space around them.
Except since space is a vacuum with no air, you really can't talk. As I said, this is one of the few laws of physics that Dragon Ball has actually followed.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Noah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:32 am

Legion wrote:Maybe manga Jiren will have....a personality? :shock: :lol:
Oh my god, could that be true? Kudos to Toyotaro then :P
Grimlock wrote:One thing I admired about Toriyama is that all his babies were indeed very cute and he knew how to draw them. Then Toyotaro enters... :|

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Man, this looks awful... Bra shouldn't be that big also why always the same onion hair for babies?
OLKv3 wrote:Toyo's Jiren looks weird, gonna take some getting used to
He looks exactly the same in the anime, I see no differences.
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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:36 am

HeroR wrote:
Meshack wrote: Dude, Beerus can survive in space. He’s a Hakaishin. Stop with your nonsense.
Being a God of Destruction doesn't automatically mean that they can breathe in space.
What? Did you not read what I said? I said he can survive in space. For some reason, you’re talking about breathing. You’re arguing just to do it.

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Post by pacz360 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:40 am

HeroR wrote:
Rebel Instinct wrote:
Beerus had a full conversation with Champa in the middle of deep space in episode 25. There were no visible bubbles from either Whis or Vados, just empty space around them.
Except since space is a vacuum with no air, you really can't talk. As I said, this is one of the few laws of physics that Dragon Ball has actually followed.[/quote]
No they dont db post proof or concede
Super doesnt give a shit bout that so idk what your talking about

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:40 am

Meshack wrote: What? Did you not read what I said? I said he can survive in space. For some reason, you’re talking about breathing. You’re arguing just to do it.
Yes, I read your argument and I used 'breathing' in that post because other people were talking about breathing. Even then, being a God of Destruction doesn't automatically mean that Beerus can survived in space.
pacz360 wrote: No they dont db post proof or concede
Super doesnt give a shit bout that so idk what your talking about
It clearly does 'give a shit' as you put since surviving in a vacuum is something that only a few species can do and they don't used the 'Batman can Breathe in Space' trope.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:41 am

pacz360 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Rebel Instinct wrote:
Beerus had a full conversation with Champa in the middle of deep space in episode 25. There were no visible bubbles from either Whis or Vados, just empty space around them.
Except since space is a vacuum with no air, you really can't talk. As I said, this is one of the few laws of physics that Dragon Ball has actually followed.[/quote]
No they dont db post proof or concede
Super doesnt give a shit bout that so idk what your talking about
Yes it does...

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Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:42 am

HeroR wrote:
Meshack wrote: What? Did you not read what I said? I said he can survive in space. For some reason, you’re talking about breathing. You’re arguing just to do it.
Yes, I read your argument and used breathing in that post because other people were talking about breathing. Even then, being a God of Destruction doesn't automatically mean that Beerus can survived in space.
Okay dude. Keep on being ignorant.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:43 am

Meshack wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Meshack wrote: What? Did you not read what I said? I said he can survive in space. For some reason, you’re talking about breathing. You’re arguing just to do it.
Yes, I read your argument and used breathing in that post because other people were talking about breathing. Even then, being a God of Destruction doesn't automatically mean that Beerus can survived in space.
Okay dude. Keep on being ignorant.
Okay.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Grimlock » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:49 am

Noah wrote:Man, this looks awful... Bra shouldn't be that big also why always the same onion hair for babies?
Yeah, Bra is the ugliest baby in Dragon Ball now, surpassing even Dragon Ball Minus' Goku while in incubator. :lol:

Oh, and she just came out of Bulma while wearing diaper. :crazy:
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Rebel Instinct » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:51 am

HeroR wrote:
Rebel Instinct wrote:
Beerus had a full conversation with Champa in the middle of deep space in episode 25. There were no visible bubbles from either Whis or Vados, just empty space around them.
Except since space is a vacuum with no air, you really can't talk. As I said, this is one of the few laws of physics that Dragon Ball has actually followed.

You said that Beerus was never shown surviving in space without a bubble provided by Whis. This is incorrect. Both he and Champa were shown surviving in space without a bubble in episodes 1, 2 and 25. Whether or not Dragon Ball takes artistic license with physics isn't my point (though it has been shown to do so in the past). Whether or not Whis is responsible for Beerus surviving in space is purely assumption. Nothing was factually stated on the subject in any of the previously mentioned episodes. You don't appear willing to concede this point though, so I'm dropping it here.
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