It's sad but true, the other Universes really have been getting wasted.namekiansaiyan wrote:They are just going to give the last 2 fighters of Universe 6 an average fight and they won't even tell us a thing about Universe 6 Namekians. If it is just a standard fight then I will probably join the group that wants Piccolo to fuse with them ecen though I hate Namekian fusion Their inclusion would have just been pointless otherwise.CJStriker_CBR wrote:It would be a waste, wicked that is.namekiansaiyan wrote:
You mean it is a waste of more characters.
I don't see that happening at this point, I think to many fans are getting ahead of themselves on this one theory when we thought one time the Jiren would KO half of the ring in the special, yea look at that.![]()
Allot is pointing to U6 going, a waste yes but not 2 Universes at least. Brianne's New Transformation will likely be giving time to show itself off, so it is unlikely she is going anywhere even if the rest of her team is gone maybe.
Again all theories, but the 2 Universes thing seems like a major stretch to happen and be a killer in the character hype and building areas of this story.
One of Zarbuto, Rabanra ot Zirloin is a Tuffle but will be wasted just like Jimeze who is a Yardratian. I am going to predict that Ribrianne's transfromation will be wasted and she will be gone in the same episode just like Ganos.
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Not really much to get out the latest spoilers. It seems like they're setting up a scenario where either Universe 6 or Universe 2 could be eliminated. It really does seem quite ambiguous and I'm intrigued to see how this develops.
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I hope Freeza uses this technique to paralyze the U2 guys.


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Because its a possibility?pacz360 wrote:Also where are people getting two universes going out this episode?
No one is getting ahead of themselves, they're all theories like what you're doing, just that yours is more enthusiastic because theres a chance Ribriane goes.CJStriker_CBR wrote: I don't see that happening at this point, I think to many fans are getting ahead of themselves on this one theory when we thought one time the Jiren would KO half of the ring in the special, yea look at that.![]()
Allot is pointing to U6 going, a waste yes but not 2 Universes at least. Brianne's New Transformation will likely be giving time to show itself off, so it is unlikely she is going anywhere even if the rest of her team is gone maybe.
Again all theories, but the 2 Universes thing seems like a major stretch to happen and be a killer in the character hype and building areas of this story.
Well yeah, they wasted characters from the start, remember U9? where we have literally all new species but only got focus on the 3 powerpuff dogs? and all of em got ringed out in 1 episode.namekiansaiyan wrote: You mean it is a waste of more characters.
I'm one of those people that doesnt mind who gets ringed out next since my main problem being the saiyan girls gone now, anyone of the remaining fighters are all good. Be it Goku,Gohan going out the next ep I dont mind at all, theres a lot of characters I'm into right now thats not focused on just my favorites, Like the bugs, Freeza, 17,Katopesla, Toppo and his burns! and yes even Jiren. Besides, Goku already got a lot of cool moments, I'd be fine if he were out when him and Jiren fights in round 2.
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It is World Building Basically.pacz360 wrote:Explain. ?CJStriker_CBR wrote:It would be a waste, wicked that is.namekiansaiyan wrote:
You mean it is a waste of more characters.
I don't see that happening at this point, I think to many fans are getting ahead of themselves on this one theory when we thought one time the Jiren would KO half of the ring in the special, yea look at that.![]()
Allot is pointing to U6 going, a waste yes but not 2 Universes at least. Brianne's New Transformation will likely be giving time to show itself off, so it is unlikely she is going anywhere even if the rest of her team is gone maybe.
Again all theories, but the 2 Universes thing seems like a major stretch to happen and be a killer in the character hype and building areas of this story.
One of the things the was exotic about this arc for me and I am sure other fans is the idea of other universe and what strange and powerful beings they have in them. I got my hyped for a very powerful and variety of characters showing what they can do. It would make the U7 Warriors remember they maybe Big Fish in their pond but their is a multiverse out their of = to + Stronger warriors out their.
I can see one or two Universes not being as powerful, but we got that with U9 and U10. The Arc needs to establish a Dramatic ideal of a few Universes even only having 1-2 fighters in each as Universes that have achieved power that can rival the best of U7. If we don't get that and U7 is only truly challenged by 1 Universe, U11, then Toei just made a wicked waste on both creativity of character and value of the universes.
Now I would hope this is not the case and I give value to characters and universes beyond just power.
But lets face facts that a good amount of fans put Importance to characters on their power levels. If the Universes, to many of them prove to be less of a challenge for U7 then they may be lost in the minds of Fans and the Grand ideal of a Multiverse of Universes will be dumb-down to just 2-3 at best.
They can get stronger, but it will be a bad handicap for the others universes to have to power-up to be relevant in the eyes of a good amount of fans and the story as a whole.
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I almost forgot Goku went god on namek once..Sandubadear wrote:I hope Freeza uses this technique to paralyze the U2 guys.
Hopefully it does happen, would surely suck if we never got to see more than one Universe get ersed simultaneous..SansrivaaL wrote: Because its a possibility?
I wonder, what makes them accept their fate just like that, one would think they would at least try to attack Zeno aur cause some Destruction before they are forever erased, they are like yeah it's okay, it's just erasure no biggge..
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It was a theory just proposed by someone cause the the debate on who is getting erased by the previews is hard to say cause both U2 is losing some fighters and U6 is in battle and not looking good. So the spark idea that both will go came-up. It seems rather extreme IMO, but that is how it mostly got started.pacz360 wrote:Also where are people getting two universes going out this episode?
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Going on what this arc is like so farLord Beerus wrote:Not really much to get out the latest spoilers. It seems like they're setting up a scenario where either Universe 6 or Universe 2 could be eliminated. It really does seem quite ambiguous and I'm intrigued to see how this develops.
17 is going to save 18 and beat Rozie and Ribrianne's transformation easily to make him look good.
Zarbuto, Zirloin and Rabanra are going to get one shotted because Toriyama wants a load of weak characters. Goku also gets another 3 eliminations while Piccolo is still stuck on 1.
Piccolo and Gohan vs Saonel will be an average fight with Gohan getting the glory as Piccolo is never allowed a good moment in this series.
The only characters I want to see is Piccolo, Saonel, Pilina and Toppo. Jiren I want to see a little bit and everyone else I cared about is already out.SansrivaaL wrote:Well yeah, they wasted characters from the start, remember U9? where we have literally all new species but only got focus on the 3 powerpuff dogs? and all of em got ringed out in 1 episode.namekiansaiyan wrote: You mean it is a waste of more characters.
I'm one of those people that doesnt mind who gets ringed out next since my main problem being the saiyan girls gone now, anyone of the remaining fighters are all good. Be it Goku,Gohan going out the next ep I dont mind at all, theres a lot of characters I'm into right now thats not focused on just my favorites, Like the bugs, Freeza, 17,Katopesla, Toppo and his burns! and yes even Jiren. Besides, Goku already got a lot of cool moments, I'd be fine if he were out when him and Jiren fights in round 2.
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Episode 118 will have one of DBS best directors and Tate doing the animation, it will be as good as episodes 114 and 116.
Piccolo/Gohan vs Saonel/Pirina will be a show stealer.
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So Zirloin is fodder? Fuck this show! Why does every universe except 6,7, and 11 have weak fighters? God damn it Katopesla, you better have more power in that suit.
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And I was hyped for him as well because of his design! but big buff Thanos looking dude gets this treatment...The_Destroyer wrote:So Zirloin is fodder? Fuck this show! Why does every universe except 6,7, and 11 have weak fighters?
He better! I want police power ranger looking dude to kick ass before going down, cant wait for him landing a fast one on the prince of all catch up.God damn it Katopesla, you better have more power in that suit.
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I will admit you get more animated about really anything when it deals with a character(s) you care more about.SansrivaaL wrote:No one is getting ahead of themselves, they're all theories like what you're doing, just that yours is more enthusiastic because theres a chance Ribriane goes.
But still I say the same if it was U4 and U3 at the same-time. It be very strange to axe 2 at the same-time and a wicked waste of potential. I give credence to those just going by their own theories(and it should be theories, some say these as certainties for some reasons), but it just seems extreme to me Toei could conceive in axing so much that they worked on to make the flavor of the finals be more bland with to much U7 and U11.
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I mean seeing these characters with great designs ending up as fodders makes want this year to end already and move on to 2018, where we will get competent mainstream series that can blow away DBS(One Punch Man Season 2, Hero Academia Season 3, Attack on Titan Season 3, Tokyo Ghoul Re, Gintama Final Season, JJBA Vento Aureo, etc).The_Destroyer wrote:So Zirloin is fodder? Fuck this show! Why does every universe except 6,7, and 11 have weak fighters? God damn it Katopesla, you better have more power in that suit.
I'm ready in case Katopelsca gets rekt by Vegeta.
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That my main gripe in this saga with this shitCJStriker_CBR wrote:It is World Building Basically.pacz360 wrote:Explain. ?CJStriker_CBR wrote:
It would be a waste, wicked that is.
I don't see that happening at this point, I think to many fans are getting ahead of themselves on this one theory when we thought one time the Jiren would KO half of the ring in the special, yea look at that.![]()
Allot is pointing to U6 going, a waste yes but not 2 Universes at least. Brianne's New Transformation will likely be giving time to show itself off, so it is unlikely she is going anywhere even if the rest of her team is gone maybe.
Again all theories, but the 2 Universes thing seems like a major stretch to happen and be a killer in the character hype and building areas of this story.![]()
One of the things the was exotic about this arc for me and I am sure other fans is the idea of other universe and what strange and powerful beings they have in them. I got my hyped for a very powerful and variety of characters showing what they can do. It would make the U7 Warriors remember they maybe Big Fish in their pond but their is a multiverse out their of = to + Stronger warriors out their.
I can see one or two Universes not being as powerful, but we got that with U9 and U10. The Arc needs to establish a Dramatic ideal of a few Universes even only having 1-2 fighters in each as Universes that have achieved power that can rival the best of U7. If we don't get that and U7 is only truly challenged by 1 Universe, U11, then Toei just made a wicked waste on both creativity of character and value of the universes.
Now I would hope this is not the case and I give value to characters and universes beyond just power.
But lets face facts that a good amount of fans put Importance to characters on their power levels. If the Universes, to many of them prove to be less of a challenge for U7 then they may be lost in the minds of Fans and the Grand ideal of a Multiverse of Universes will be dumb-down to just 2-3 at best.
They can get stronger, but it will be a bad handicap for the others universes to have to power-up to be relevant in the eyes of a good amount of fans and the story as a whole.
You can tell toei and tori couldnt be bothered to bullshit some if these fighters to ssjg/blue leve
Like come on whats the pont of hyping these guys if your gonna have them job like shit and nt even be a threat t even ssj goku
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Time to add Zirloin to the "list of cool designs that ended up being fodder" which now consists of: Majora, Nigrisshi, Vikal, Maji Kayo and now Zirloin.The_Destroyer wrote:So Zirloin is fodder? Fuck this show! Why does every universe except 6,7, and 11 have weak fighters? God damn it Katopesla, you better have more power in that suit.
Well, Katopesla is my last hope and he's a gag character.
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Nigrisshi design was kinda meh, although he was hyped to be a big player.Big Chief wrote: Time to add Zirloin to the "list of cool designs that ended up being fodder" which now consists of: Majora, Nigrisshi, Vikal, Maji Kayo and now Zirloin.
Well, Katopesla is my last hope and he's a gag character.
Its like when ToP kicked off, most of the Pre ToP we saw was never part of the outline and pretty much Toei only stuff.
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If Saonel and Pilina lose then I only care if Piccolo gets the final big moment to knock them out. If Gohan does then it is completely ruined to me as they are Namekians.perucho1990 wrote:Episode 118 will have one of DBS best directors and Tate doing the animation, it will be as good as episodes 114 and 116.
Piccolo/Gohan vs Saonel/Pirina will be a show stealer.
Dragon Ball has always been useless at using characters and will continue to be like that until new people take over.perucho1990 wrote:I mean seeing these characters with great designs ending up as fodders makes want this year to end already and move on to 2018, where we will get competent mainstream series that can blow away DBS(One Punch Man Season 2, Hero Academia Season 3, Attack on Titan Season 3, Tokyo Ghoul Re, Gintama Final Season, JJBA Vento Aureo, etc).The_Destroyer wrote:So Zirloin is fodder? Fuck this show! Why does every universe except 6,7, and 11 have weak fighters? God damn it Katopesla, you better have more power in that suit.
I'm ready in case Katopelsca gets rekt by Vegeta.
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namekiansaiyan wrote: If Saonel and Pilina lose then I only care if Piccolo gets the final big moment to knock them out. If Gohan does then it is completely ruined to me as they are Namekians.
Dragon Ball has always been useless at using characters and will continue to be like that until new people take over.
What both Both Gohan and Piccolo gain 1 elimination each other? Its fair play(Although all it would do is Piccolo to match Tiens performance with 2 eliminations).
Most of the people working with DBS seems to be dinosaurs stuck in the 80s, I want Toyotaro to take over at leats we will get more secondary characters being used(He is learning that by being inspired of Hero Academia).
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Toyo still has goku and vegeta be the main show in the manga trunks barely did shit in the in his own arc in the manga versionperucho1990 wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote: If Saonel and Pilina lose then I only care if Piccolo gets the final big moment to knock them out. If Gohan does then it is completely ruined to me as they are Namekians.
Dragon Ball has always been useless at using characters and will continue to be like that until new people take over.
What both Both Gohan and Piccolo gain 1 elimination each other? Its fair play(Although all it would do is Piccolo to match Tiens performance with 2 eliminations).
Most of the people working with DBS seems to be dinosaurs stuck in the 80s, I want Toyotaro to take over at leats we will get more secondary characters being used(He is learning that by being inspired of Hero Academia).
Piccolo straight jobbed to frost in the manga
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How could anyone think Toyo would be better for character usage after the future trunks arc ? Trunks was useless there.
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