"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:31 pm

kinisking wrote:Shh lapis lettuce. Hero r doesn't quite understand statistics. He thinks screen time and relevance doesn't mean anything just because characters like Roshi are more popular than Tien. Completely ignoring that there is always going to be outliers and even with a strong correlation the data points aren't always going to fall perfectly in a line of best fit.
I understand outliers and statistics just fine, thanks.

And I never said ‘screen time and relevance doesn't mean anything’. I said having a lot screen time or relevance doesn’t always mean a character will be popular.
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Post by TheOne » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:44 pm

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Power levels are dependable on what they care to write and characters being relevant is the same thing.
Yeah, and the episodes suck. The only episodes I skipped in Super involved him.

Not everyone shares your opinion on the handling of strength relevance
We`re not talking about who likes what, let`s not change the subject. The reply was about how you don`t require to be a Saiyan to be relevant and there`s examples of it in Super.

The personal taste is irrelevant.
As long as I’m talking about Dragon Ball Super, I’m fine. Just because I chose to expand on something you said outside of your intitial point doesn’t make my statement irrelevant.
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Post by TekTheNinja » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:17 pm

TheOne wrote:
Olympian wrote:
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Yeah, and the episodes suck. The only episodes I skipped in Super involved him.

Not everyone shares your opinion on the handling of strength relevance
We`re not talking about who likes what, let`s not change the subject. The reply was about how you don`t require to be a Saiyan to be relevant and there`s examples of it in Super.

The personal taste is irrelevant.
As long as I’m talking about Dragon Ball Super, I’m fine. Just because I chose to expand on something you said outside of your intitial point doesn’t make my statement irrelevant.
It is irrelevant though. It's irrelevant to the topic that particular discussion was about. Whether or not the Roshi episodes are good was never the point. (But they're pretty damn good episodes imo)

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Post by Olympian » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:34 pm

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As long as I’m talking about Dragon Ball Super, I’m fine. Just because I chose to expand on something you said outside of your intitial point doesn’t make my statement irrelevant.
I said outside my initial point? The point was simple: Saiyans aren`t the only characters who writers give relevance or good performances. Presto.

Your dislikes or mine don`t add anything to it. You probably loved the last four and outside some cool moments and despite actually liking the girls I found them boring af. So what?
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Post by TheOne » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:58 pm

Olympian wrote:
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As long as I’m talking about Dragon Ball Super, I’m fine. Just because I chose to expand on something you said outside of your intitial point doesn’t make my statement irrelevant.
I said outside my initial point? The point was simple: Saiyans aren`t the only characters who writers give relevance or good performances. Presto.

Your dislikes or mine don`t add anything to it. You probably loved the last four and outside some cool moments and despite actually liking the girls I found them boring af. So what?
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Post by kinisking » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:02 pm

HeroR wrote:
kinisking wrote:Shh lapis lettuce. Hero r doesn't quite understand statistics. He thinks screen time and relevance doesn't mean anything just because characters like Roshi are more popular than Tien. Completely ignoring that there is always going to be outliers and even with a strong correlation the data points aren't always going to fall perfectly in a line of best fit.
I understand outliers and statistics just fine, thanks.

And I never said ‘screen time and relevance doesn't mean anything’. I said having a lot screen time or relevance doesn’t always mean a character will be popular.
I'm recalling a precious incident where we talked about the same topic and you tried acting like there was no connection between popularity and screen time.
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Post by perucho1990 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:42 pm

Episode 118 spoiler pic

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

I wonder if his reaction is at Brianne new form.

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Post by Noah » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:45 pm

perucho1990 wrote:I wonder if his reaction is at Brianne new form.
Nah, Goku don't give a F about Brianne, that's probably a typical staredown main character x antagonist, so Goku is reacting to Jiren.
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Post by perucho1990 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:49 pm

Noah wrote: Nah, Goku don't give a F about Brianne, that's probably a typical staredown main character x antagonist, so Goku is reacting to Jiren.
I was about to edit my previous post and say that Gokus might be reacting at Brianne(in her new form) eliminating 18 in easy fashion.

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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:50 pm

Noah wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:I wonder if his reaction is at Brianne new form.
Nah, Goku don't give a F about Brianne, that's probably a typical staredown main character x antagonist, so Goku is reacting to Jiren.
Really Goku has been pretty respectful towards all his opponents, having a special curiosity in all they can do and being impressed whether they are on the same level with him or not. If I had Goku appreciates Skill, Power and Unique Themes of Style of those Powers like an Artist.

So going by the Goku we see in the Show, would not surprise me he would be interested to impressed with Brianne's new form like he is with any showing from any fighter. :thumbup:
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Post by Chuquita » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:54 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Episode 118 spoiler pic

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

I wonder if his reaction is at Brianne new form.
I'm looking forward to seeing what route they take her new form. With how much parody there is to Ribrianne could be anything.
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Post by perucho1990 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:58 pm

Goku looks very worried though.

Witnessing Brianne trashing 18 like nothing in her new form could be the main reason why Goku is reacting like that, specially if they confirm Brianne reached Blue level.

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Post by Big Chief » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:19 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Episode 118 spoiler pic

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

I wonder if his reaction is at Brianne new form.
It might be his reaction to when Frieza comes in and helps him against Zarbuto's group. Zirloin and Rabanra are in the smoke there.
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Post by perucho1990 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:38 pm

Yes, that could happen as well, it makes sense that Freeza helps him because he already mentioned that he needs Gokus power vs Jiren.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:49 pm

kinisking wrote: I'm recalling a precious incident where we talked about the same topic and you tried acting like there was no connection between popularity and screen time.
Even back then I said scene time wasn't as important as some pushed. This is true in all fandom if you look at the popularity polls where you have more than a few 'outliers' where characters with little to no scene time beating the crap out of series regulars or characters who were the focused of the current story arc. I remember Law from One Piece getting in the top 20 before he even did anything, the same with Ace who was always in the top ten before his had a major story role and is still in the top 10 despite being dead, or Hancock who has remained in the top 10 despite having no story role since 2010.

Yeah, scene time can help with using Law who was #2 when he had major focused, and then dropped to #4 after his story role was done or Jinbe who ranked up majorly, [spoiler]probably because he's going to join the Straw Hats[/spoiler], but then you have something like Brook who barely made the top 20 despite having a major role recently or Big Mom who's 69.

Point is, people are fickle and will vote for characters for many different reasons be it design, personality, or them just having a cool moment. Not just them having a lot scene time. Especially if a character is widely hated which is how you get the Scrappy and Creator's Pets.
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Post by Olympian » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:08 am

TheOne wrote:
Olympian wrote:
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As long as I’m talking about Dragon Ball Super, I’m fine. Just because I chose to expand on something you said outside of your intitial point doesn’t make my statement irrelevant.
I said outside my initial point? The point was simple: Saiyans aren`t the only characters who writers give relevance or good performances. Presto.

Your dislikes or mine don`t add anything to it. You probably loved the last four and outside some cool moments and despite actually liking the girls I found them boring af. So what?
Your assumptions of me and what I like are hilarious and ridiculous
You`ve done nothing but trying to pick up a fight over a simple matter and I`m not interested or invested.
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Post by Michsi » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:40 am

Wait, we got preview images from 118 but not 117? How does that even work?
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Post by dbgtFO » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:29 am

Michsi wrote:Wait, we got preview images from 118 but not 117? How does that even work?
It's the image they use for the next episode preview video.
People found out last year that Toei would always ready the image they would use for the next episode preview video on their Super site, while it's the Super twitter profile that releases images of this week's episode typically late in the friday afternoon local time.
So basically the nep image for the episode that comes after this immediate one is not supposed to be found by the public, while the images from the forthcoming episode are very much made publically available.

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Post by JazzMazz » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:54 am

Preview image from 118.
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Its seems there are the shadows of 2 universe 2 fighters in the background. I know who they are but don't care to remember their names because they've done literally nothing.

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Post by dbgtFO » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:22 am

JazzMazz wrote:Preview image from 118.
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Its seems there are the shadows of 2 universe 2 fighters in the background. I know who they are but don't care to remember their names because they've done literally nothing.
It's Zirloin and Rabanra. Also this image was already posted on this page.

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