"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by perucho1990 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:44 pm

Kataphrut wrote:What are the odds that Ribrianne's new transformation will be another joke form? In keeping of the theme we've had up to now, her first transformation is obviously the gag upon which her entire character is based, while the second was just that with wings (which was actually shown to be pretty cool). The fact that she's returning to her base form in the preview could be some sort of fake-out. "Oh, you thought you were getting the pretty form at last? Oh, well here's something EVEN UGLIER".

For the record, I don't want that, I want her new form to be really cool and powerful this episode. Even if it is...well, ugly is the wrong word, but keeping with the theme of her other transformations, I'd be ok as long as it was effective. The other Universes need some strong contenders, Ribrianne needs her previous screentime justified and I need SOME DELICIOUS HATER SALT FOR THESE FRIES. But there's a not unreasonable chance of it happening.
Wouldnt be surprised if they do it in order to take U7 likeable, like how Kefla was made very arrogant in episode 116 in order to make Goku likeable, the U7 bias is too obvious at this point.

Some of these episode directors should be fired.

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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:47 pm

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YonedgeHP wrote:I'm seriously worried that the anime will not bother to explain the whole "Yardratians and Tsufruians in Universe 2" issue.
Jimeze is already out, so the yardrat stuff is most likely never gonna be talked about. As for Zarbuto, I'm not sure the Universe 7 team would even be able to recognise a tuffle. Vegeta and Frieza would be the only ones who could, and I don't think even they'd know that that's what they're looking at.
I really never expected to get a world building explanation about the Yardratians and Tsufruians in the ToP, by story, focus and time their just is not enough to be good or effective. When this ToP is done and Universe 2 is either still around or is brought back, then in the next arc like it is teased for a U6 story-line on the Saiyan planet, it will be then in that arc we will likely explore more of U2 and the mystery's surrounding the Yardratians and Tsufruians.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by CJStriker_CBR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:52 pm

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Kataphrut wrote:What are the odds that Ribrianne's new transformation will be another joke form? In keeping of the theme we've had up to now, her first transformation is obviously the gag upon which her entire character is based, while the second was just that with wings (which was actually shown to be pretty cool). The fact that she's returning to her base form in the preview could be some sort of fake-out. "Oh, you thought you were getting the pretty form at last? Oh, well here's something EVEN UGLIER".

For the record, I don't want that, I want her new form to be really cool and powerful this episode. Even if it is...well, ugly is the wrong word, but keeping with the theme of her other transformations, I'd be ok as long as it was effective. The other Universes need some strong contenders, Ribrianne needs her previous screentime justified and I need SOME DELICIOUS HATER SALT FOR THESE FRIES. But there's a not unreasonable chance of it happening.
Wouldnt be surprised if they do it in order to take U7 likeable, like how Kefla was made very arrogant in episode 116 in order to make Goku likeable, the U7 bias is too obvious at this point.

Some of these episode directors should be fired.
I don't worry on it Ribrianne's look being a form to make U7 look better, honestly that is a problem some fans have with looks, I don't think that is the intention of the writers with that, that of looks.

It would be however bad if in the next Few episodes U7 continues to look overly good and eliminates many more fighters while barely losing any, even if it is just 1 fighter. I don't expect that, but if other Universe start to seem to be getting picked-off by U7 and they are losing little, then I think that is enough reasons to have problems with the arc that Toei was not serious about promoting other universes but just as an excuse to make U7 look good.

Again, that is all speculation and allot has to happen to come to that conclusion yet. But, ALLOT will tell us in the next few episode, at least before we turn into the year 2018, what Toei's intentions are mostly with this arc. :think:
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by perucho1990 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:58 pm

Yes, it would be look like Toei created fake hype in order take advantage of fans naivety, and thats such a dirty move, kinda makes you wish the merchandise sales go downhill.

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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:07 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Yes, it would be look like Toei created fake hype in order take advantage of fans naivety, and thats such a dirty move, kinda makes you wish the merchandise sales go downhill.
What did I just read?
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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:11 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Yes, it would be look like Toei created fake hype in order to steal money from the customers, and thats such a dirty move, kinda makes you wish the merchandise sales go downhill.
Indeed well said Perucho1990 and this is my overall view on things at this point not just of the ToP arc, not just my fandom for Brianne and U2, but it goes to something MUCH Bigger with me as a Fan to my Core and that is;

Is Toei serious about having a power and expanisve multiverse?!

I am much more of a Comic Book fan right now then DB Fan, Marvel and DC Comics as well as some others have Majorly Grand and Variously Rich multiverses that are amazing threw-out the decades! So when I saw Dragon Ball Finally doing the the same along with Brianne, I become a Fan again cause they where finally doing something to expanded themselves to an amazing possibility!

However this is also where Toei can break it as well. Not all the universes need to be on par with U7, however if to many are made to look like not only the leasers of U7 but Major leasers, then that can be a closing for me of the series, at least for now. Brianne doing well is not just about my likely of her, but the OVERALL Plot Ideal of Amazing Universes the offer variety and strength and how they got it to Rival U7 in their own Unique way.

Right now all we got is U11 and U6 being more of an = to tiny behind U7. I am proud of U2 but they have to so more, so doe U4 and now U3. If Toei does not have these Universes step-up to the plate and just make then a foil to make U7 or even U11 look good, then the whole ideal of the Grand DB Multiverse that I had hoped for can fold in on itself.

It be like it was just a tease and Toei just cop-out on itself.

Again ALLOT has to happen for me to come to that conclusion, I expect some Majorly impressive things in episode 117 tonight, but one much always be ready for what the overall arc brings and to judge the storytellers by it as well as Toei overall.

Marvel and DC Comics have learned many lessons of this the last few years.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:14 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Yes, it would be look like Toei created fake hype in order take advantage of fans naivety, and thats such a dirty move, kinda makes you wish the merchandise sales go downhill.
You can NOT be serious right now.

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Post by perucho1990 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:18 pm

If for example Kubo or Salagir were in charge at least you could expect a lot of secondary characters getting developed and not just being Monster of week.

Even Araki Hirohiko used that formula much better, thats why I respect him and consider JoJo one of the greatest creations in the Manga industry.

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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:37 pm

CJStriker_CBR wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:Yes, it would be look like Toei created fake hype in order to steal money from the customers, and thats such a dirty move, kinda makes you wish the merchandise sales go downhill.
Indeed well said Perucho1990 and this is my overall view on things at this point not just of the ToP arc, not just my fandom for Brianne and U2, but it goes to something MUCH Bigger with me as a Fan to my Core and that is;

Is Toei serious about having a power and expanisve multiverse?!

I am much more of a Comic Book fan right now then DB Fan, Marvel and DC Comics as well as some others have Majorly Grand and Variously Rich multiverses that are amazing threw-out the decades! So when I saw Dragon Ball Finally doing the the same along with Brianne, I become a Fan again cause they where finally doing something to expanded themselves to an amazing possibility!

However this is also where Toei can break it as well. Not all the universes need to be on par with U7, however if to many are made to look like not only the leasers of U7 but Major leasers, then that can be a closing for me of the series, at least for now. Brianne doing well is not just about my likely of her, but the OVERALL Plot Ideal of Amazing Universes the offer variety and strength and how they got it to Rival U7 in their own Unique way.

Right now all we got is U11 and U6 being more of an = to tiny behind U7. I am proud of U2 but they have to so more, so doe U4 and now U3. If Toei does not have these Universes step-up to the plate and just make then a foil to make U7 or even U11 look good, then the whole ideal of the Grand DB Multiverse that I had hoped for can fold in on itself.

It be like it was just a tease and Toei just cop-out on itself.

Again ALLOT has to happen for me to come to that conclusion, I expect some Majorly impressive things in episode 117 tonight, but one much always be ready for what the overall arc brings and to judge the storytellers by it as well as Toei overall.

Marvel and DC Comics have learned many lessons of this the last few years.

American comics are very different beasts from Japanese manga and I think you were setting yourself up by thinking Dragon Ball was going to used the multiverse anything like DC or Marvel.
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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:59 pm

HeroR wrote:
CJStriker_CBR wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:Yes, it would be look like Toei created fake hype in order to steal money from the customers, and thats such a dirty move, kinda makes you wish the merchandise sales go downhill.
Indeed well said Perucho1990 and this is my overall view on things at this point not just of the ToP arc, not just my fandom for Brianne and U2, but it goes to something MUCH Bigger with me as a Fan to my Core and that is;

Is Toei serious about having a power and expanisve multiverse?!

I am much more of a Comic Book fan right now then DB Fan, Marvel and DC Comics as well as some others have Majorly Grand and Variously Rich multiverses that are amazing threw-out the decades! So when I saw Dragon Ball Finally doing the the same along with Brianne, I become a Fan again cause they where finally doing something to expanded themselves to an amazing possibility!

However this is also where Toei can break it as well. Not all the universes need to be on par with U7, however if to many are made to look like not only the leasers of U7 but Major leasers, then that can be a closing for me of the series, at least for now. Brianne doing well is not just about my likely of her, but the OVERALL Plot Ideal of Amazing Universes the offer variety and strength and how they got it to Rival U7 in their own Unique way.

Right now all we got is U11 and U6 being more of an = to tiny behind U7. I am proud of U2 but they have to so more, so doe U4 and now U3. If Toei does not have these Universes step-up to the plate and just make then a foil to make U7 or even U11 look good, then the whole ideal of the Grand DB Multiverse that I had hoped for can fold in on itself.

It be like it was just a tease and Toei just cop-out on itself.

Again ALLOT has to happen for me to come to that conclusion, I expect some Majorly impressive things in episode 117 tonight, but one much always be ready for what the overall arc brings and to judge the storytellers by it as well as Toei overall.

Marvel and DC Comics have learned many lessons of this the last few years.

American comics are very different beasts from Japanese manga and I think you were setting yourself up by thinking Dragon Ball was going to used the multiverse anything like DC or Marvel.
No not to that extreme level, they have been around since the Silver Age of Comics, but what I hope for is a starting point at the very least to make an ideal that the multiverse matters and U7 can learn from it in the next arc. I just get worried if to much is made of U7 then the learning curve might get dumb down. I should have been more clear on that and if Marvel/DC Comics have decades of levels of variety of their multiverses, DB is only right now needs to make it viable to even being their at best, but they only have to be a that to it interesting.
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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:08 pm

CJStriker_CBR wrote:

American comics are very different beasts from Japanese manga and I think you were setting yourself up by thinking Dragon Ball was going to used the multiverse anything like DC or Marvel.
No not to that extreme level, they have been around since the Silver Age of Comics, but what I hope for is a starting point at the very least to make an ideal that the multiverse matters and U7 can learn from it in the next arc. I just get worried if to much is made of U7 then the learning curve might get dumb down. I should have been more clear on that and if Marvel/DC Comics have decades of levels of variety of their multiverses, DB is only right now needs to make it viable to even being their at best, but they only have to be a that to it interesting.[/quote]

Certain universes will matter more than others since that is just how Dragon Ball is. Like we haven't explored U7 despite them going in space in the Namek Saga.
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Post by Xeogran » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:29 pm

Today's episode was amazing. 10/10 Androids Teamwork, the Zenos were SUPER adorable and I liked the Battle Royale feeling it delivered, with Biarra interrupting 17 out of nowhere.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:30 pm

Without going into deep detail. That was the greatest episode of Super I have ever seen. A masterpiece. Just shy of the gold standard mark.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:31 pm

Oh my... that was... mmmm.... they finally gone! No more cringe characters on the ring!!! back to back best eps :clap:

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Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:33 pm

Looks like U2 is completely irrelevant in terms of power, just like U3, U9, and U11. At this point, our only hope for any decent fighters outside of U6, U7, and U11 (which only has 3 decent fighters) is two bugs from U4. This wasn't a bad episode, but it's really annoying seeing the strongest warrior from a universe losing to Android 18. I'm pretty sure that U3 will be fodder as well since Katopesla got humiliated by Base Vegeta, Biarra didn't put up much of a fight against 17, the 3 robots got blasted away by Base Caulifla, and Paparoni got casually kicked away by 18 several episodes ago.
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Post by Jigurashi » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:34 pm

Good episode. Getting rid of the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne back-to-back lol. I didn't hate or dislike any of them, but yeah, glad they're gone now.

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Post by omaro34 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:35 pm

THANK THE GOOD LORD.

[spoiler]the fat annoying ribrianne is gone[/spoiler]

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Post by perucho1990 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:37 pm

U2 is confirmed gone based on the spoilers, and U6 might be out as well.

Just waiting for the Cicadas to show up.

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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:37 pm

I Give my Respects to 17 and 18 for having a good match, they come across good tonight.

I am highly disappointed in Toei however that was the Best they can do for My Girl Ribrianne, I now fear for U3 and U4 if they will be anything special.

The Transformation was not creative and was lazy, was a cop-out IMO and the power-ups seem just lame on both sides.

Again I am a fair guy, who wins is who wins, I will always like U2 and Ribiranne and the Girls, but honestly that was disappointing storytelling to be. My worry what may come from the other universes now.

Peace and Honor to all and I still Love Ribrianne and the Girls! :thumbup:

P.S. To those that Dislike Ribrianne and the Girls Please show some honor cause she has fans like us.
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Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:37 pm

That ending was cheesy, but whatever, anything with 18 is still super in my book. Always put respect to the second waifu.
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