"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Noah » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:49 pm

precita wrote:She got so much focus. I wouldn't say she was wasted at all. She was meant to be a gag character.
Exactly, just like Dr. Rota and people thought she would be at the Top #10 :lol:
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Post by MasterofSix » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:54 pm

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FortuneSSJ wrote:Welp, they wasted Ribrianne too. At least she could have eliminated someone from Universe 7.
She got so much focus. I wouldn't say she was wasted at all. She was meant to be a gag character.
The thing is we're at the point of the Tournament where the strongest characters are still around as the GP said. There's nothing wrong with her being a silly character but she should've been able to do more besides accidentally knocking one person from U10 out.
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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:56 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Welp, they wasted Ribrianne too. At least she could have eliminated someone from Universe 7.
Noah wrote:
precita wrote:She got so much focus. I wouldn't say she was wasted at all. She was meant to be a gag character.
Exactly, just like Dr. Rota and people thought she would be at the Top #10 :lol:
No, Ribrianne deserved to be in the Top 10 and she was not just a gag character to many.

It is just like Hit or Kale many thought would be in the Top 10 but Toei took them away too. Toei is just acting strange with its side characters and seem to be bent on just focusing on U7 cause now they will have so many eliminations.

I give honor to 17 and 18, but the story Toei is telling with its side characters is just being wasted at this point. I don't expect much now from U3 and U4 sadly.

She deserved better and the Girls where Great, just toei ended the story quicker then they should.
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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:58 pm

Noah wrote:
No, the absent of evidence indicates that she had no huge improvement, you could say that about 17 vs. Blue Goku, but not 18, so I wouldn't doubt she's still weaker than 16.
She obvious got a big power-up since she beat Rib who Goku, Vegeta, and other gods called strong and was able to fight both in their base forms. One of the gods were so impressed with Rib that he thought U2 could win it all. Remember, the U9 people were around the Buu Saga levels and were more or less called fodder. Within the story of Super, Rib was never presented a weak since no one would talk up someone weaker than 16.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:07 pm

Saonel and Pirina are said to have unlimited regeneration in the preview. Piccolo will get the same thing. Toriyama has the chance to destroy the idea of Piccolo sacrificing himself ever again and that is why he will survive.

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HeroR wrote:
Noah wrote:
No, the absent of evidence indicates that she had no huge improvement, you could say that about 17 vs. Blue Goku, but not 18, so I wouldn't doubt she's still weaker than 16.
She obvious got a big power-up since she beat Rib who Goku, Vegeta, and other gods called strong and was able to fight both in their base forms. One of the gods were so impressed with Rib that he thought U2 could win it all. Remember, the U9 people were around the Buu Saga levels and were more or less called fodder. Within the story of Super, Rib was never presented a weak since no one would talk up someone weaker than 16.
Yea, they had some good story for Brianne building her well to be a powerhouse.

How they ended her run is just bizarre and IMO wrong to do to her character, I just wonder what they where thinking or if they think this was good enough?!

Again she took it like a class act the loss and I give her Character much credit for that, but she deserved better in the end and so did allot of the other Universes. I just don't have hope the others will be so good going forward.
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Post by Totamo » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:09 pm

shadowmaria wrote:I'm really not rooting for Universe 7, I want to watch them get eliminated

That would be a far more interesting story, as I just can't see Universe 7 as the protagonists of this arc
Well here is a counter argument, no one wants to watch their favorite characters get bodied. This arc as been to me an introduction of the other universes and a celebration of fan favorites. Its not meant to be so tense you can cut it with a knife but just dumb fun.



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Post by Totamo » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:14 pm

HeroR wrote:
Noah wrote:
No, the absent of evidence indicates that she had no huge improvement, you could say that about 17 vs. Blue Goku, but not 18, so I wouldn't doubt she's still weaker than 16.
She obvious got a big power-up since she beat Rib who Goku, Vegeta, and other gods called strong and was able to fight both in their base forms. One of the gods were so impressed with Rib that he thought U2 could win it all. Remember, the U9 people were around the Buu Saga levels and were more or less called fodder. Within the story of Super, Rib was never presented a weak since no one would talk up someone weaker than 16.
You can't use power scale to judge characters anymore based off the anime anymore. Its way too inconsistent to get a dial on.


The manga I get, it has a few blips but not the anime. And Toei is known for this, looking at you Yamcha beating Recome.

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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:18 pm

CJStriker_CBR wrote:
Yea, they had some good story for Brianne building her well to be a powerhouse.

How they ended her run is just bizarre and IMO wrong to do to her character, I just wonder what they where thinking or if they think this was good enough?!

Again she took it like a class act the loss and I give her Character much credit for that, but she deserved better in the end and so did allot of the other Universes. I just don't have hope the others will be so good going forward.
The general problem with Rib is that she ran into the 'show, don't tell'. We're told that Rib is strong, but she never came off as that strong. In fact, she seemed to get weaker after her performance in 103, but that is more Toei's fault for the disconnect. She more or less did a reverse Future Trunks.

I think how she was eliminated was fine, if not good writing. She was taking out by love and got to understand that there was more loved than just hers. I honestly can't think of a better ending for her. At the very least, she wasn't humiliated like some fans really, really wanted.
Totamo wrote: You can't use power scale to judge characters anymore based off the anime anymore. Its way too inconsistent to get a dial on.


The manga I get, it has a few blips but not the anime. And Toei is known for this, looking at you Yamcha beating Recome.
That is an exaggerating to the point of being eye-rolling. By that logic, anyone can take out Jiren or Toppo.

Yamcha beat Recoome where he trained with King Kai to get stronger. Why is that so hard believe when the humans went from fodder to all being able to beat the shit out of Raditz using the same training as Goku back in Dragon Ball, which didn't make Goku even half that strong.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by perucho1990 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:21 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:Saonel and Pirina are said to have unlimited regeneration in the preview. Piccolo will get the same thing. Toriyama has the chance to destroy the idea of Piccolo sacrificing himself ever again and that is why he will survive.
They have unlimited stamina because they fused with lots of Namekians, Piccolo might get the same thing if he fuses with any of them or with Pirina(looks like he will absorb Saonel in order to force Gohan use Mystic form).

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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:22 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Saonel and Pirina are said to have unlimited regeneration in the preview. Piccolo will get the same thing. Toriyama has the chance to destroy the idea of Piccolo sacrificing himself ever again and that is why he will survive.
They have unlimited stamina because they fused with lots of Namekians, Piccolo might get the same thing if he fuses with any of them or with Pirina(looks like he will absorb Saonel in order to force Gohan use Mystic form).
That is just assumption at this point.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by CJStriker_CBR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:24 pm

HeroR wrote:
CJStriker_CBR wrote:
Yea, they had some good story for Brianne building her well to be a powerhouse.

How they ended her run is just bizarre and IMO wrong to do to her character, I just wonder what they where thinking or if they think this was good enough?!

Again she took it like a class act the loss and I give her Character much credit for that, but she deserved better in the end and so did allot of the other Universes. I just don't have hope the others will be so good going forward.
The general problem with Rib is that she ran into the 'show, don't tell'. We're told that Rib is strong, but she never came off as that strong. In fact, she seemed to get weaker after her performance in 103, but that is more Toei's fault for the disconnect. She more or less did a reverse Future Trunks.

I think how she was eliminated was fine, if not good writing. She was taking out by love and got to understand that there was more loved than just hers. I honestly can't think of a better ending for her. At the very least, she wasn't humiliated like some fans really, really wanted.
I agree it was a class act the way she went out and IMO it showed good on her and that SHE IS a Good Yet Young Girl that is doing her best with what she believes in.

The whole power scaling to has been a mess since that break after episode 106, since 107 the powers-calling has been all over the place and just seem to be more about rule of cool then anything else, many characters seem to now suffer from this and no one can make sense of it.

I just dis-pointed that I feel she Deserved to go further and help make these finals truly something special, but Toei seems just Disconnected in making any of the other Universes matter in the end, I don't have hope for U3 or U4, I hope I am wrong, but Toei writing is just getting stranger at this point and more generic status quo.
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Post by Totamo » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:28 pm

HeroR wrote:
CJStriker_CBR wrote:
Yea, they had some good story for Brianne building her well to be a powerhouse.

How they ended her run is just bizarre and IMO wrong to do to her character, I just wonder what they where thinking or if they think this was good enough?!

Again she took it like a class act the loss and I give her Character much credit for that, but she deserved better in the end and so did allot of the other Universes. I just don't have hope the others will be so good going forward.
The general problem with Rib is that she ran into the 'show, don't tell'. We're told that Rib is strong, but she never came off as that strong. In fact, she seemed to get weaker after her performance in 103, but that is more Toei's fault for the disconnect. She more or less did a reverse Future Trunks.

I think how she was eliminated was fine, if not good writing. She was taking out by love and got to understand that there was more loved than just hers. I honestly can't think of a better ending for her. At the very least, she wasn't humiliated like some fans really, really wanted.
Totamo wrote: You can't use power scale to judge characters anymore based off the anime anymore. Its way too inconsistent to get a dial on.


The manga I get, it has a few blips but not the anime. And Toei is known for this, looking at you Yamcha beating Recome.
That is an exaggerating to the point of being eye-rolling. By that logic, anyone can take out Jiren or Toppo.

Yamcha beat Recoome where he trained with King Kai to get stronger. Why is that so hard believe when the humans went from fodder to all being able to beat the shit out of Raditz using the same training as Goku back in Dragon Ball, which didn't make Goku even half that strong.
I got news for you, That was also stupid. Dragon ball has always done this nonsense and just because it existed back then, doesn't mean it makes sense now.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:29 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Saonel and Pirina are said to have unlimited regeneration in the preview. Piccolo will get the same thing. Toriyama has the chance to destroy the idea of Piccolo sacrificing himself ever again and that is why he will survive.
They have unlimited stamina because they fused with lots of Namekians, Piccolo might get the same thing if he fuses with any of them or with Pirina(looks like he will absorb Saonel in order to force Gohan use Mystic form).
You don't know that they fused with other Namekians from Universe 6 or if Pirina fused with Saonel.

Piccolo will survive. Episode 119 is the next dropout from Universe 7

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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:41 pm

Totamo wrote: I got news for you, That was also stupid. Dragon ball has always done this nonsense and just because it existed back then, doesn't mean it makes sense now.
I got new for you, that is what happened. Doesn't matter if you find it stupid.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Venus » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:44 pm

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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:47 pm

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I agree it was a class act the way she went out and IMO it showed good on her and that SHE IS a Good Yet Young Girl that is doing her best with what she believes in.

The whole power scaling to has been a mess since that break after episode 106, since 107 the powers-calling has been all over the place and just seem to be more about rule of cool then anything else, many characters seem to now suffer from this and no one can make sense of it.

I just dis-pointed that I feel she Deserved to go further and help make these finals truly something special, but Toei seems just Disconnected in making any of the other Universes matter in the end, I don't have hope for U3 or U4, I hope I am wrong, but Toei writing is just getting stranger at this point and more generic status quo.
We're in the climax of this arc, so people and universes are going to start dropping and not everyone's favorites are going to make it to the end. It also isn't that generic since no one thought U4 and U3 would last this long, especially if U6 is the next to go. Everyone thought for sure they would be the along with U7 and U11 with some betting that they would win and wished back U7.

The power scale hasn't been a mess since 106 since it actually became more clear where everyone stood by 109.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by perucho1990 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:47 pm

If Piccolo ends up very dmgd after fighting the Namekians he is gone in episode 119.

17 and 18 might solo U3, and that would be their main fight. imo

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Post by Noah » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:52 pm

CJStriker_CBR wrote:...but the story Toei is telling with its side characters is just being wasted at this point.
Girl, don't tell me that after twenty episodes you just figured it out that now? It became clear this tournament would focus too much on U7 (protagonists), a bit on U6 (because of the know characters and new Saiyan girls) and U11 (where the arc antagonist resides).
HeroR wrote:She obvious got a big power-up since she beat Rib who Goku, Vegeta, and other gods called strong and was able to fight both in their base forms. One of the gods were so impressed with Rib that he thought U2 could win it all. Remember, the U9 people were around the Buu Saga levels and were more or less called fodder. Within the story of Super, Rib was never presented a weak since no one would talk up someone weaker than 16.
How they were folder if Goku and Vegeta needed Blue plus their most strongest techniques combined to defeat the U9 Trio De Dangers? Also Ribrianne being at Base Goku level is no big deal, since the power of base Saiyans tends to 'change' a lot in this series, that's why people complain about the mess in the power scale.
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Post by Lapislettuce » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:55 pm

perucho1990 wrote:If Piccolo ends up very dmgd after fighting the Namekians he is gone in episode 119.

17 and 18 might solo U3, and that would be their main fight. imo
18 already had a big fight and enough screen time for someone who was barely as hyped as Krillin.

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