"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Michsi]

That is knowing someone since he knew what Piccolo was, how he died, and what he was about. More than what can be said about those Namekians who knows crap about Piccolo. Nail trusted Piccolo since he knew Piccolo's history thank the Elder Namek and even Gohan.

Nail literally says that he thinks only of the good of Namek and the universe. They can do something similar with these two as well. As I said, if they don't want to die and this ends up being the one and only way, I can see it happen.

Right, just like Kelfa getting Super Saiyan 3.

I think that was fake foreshadowing, not a callback. It's not like we don't get callbacks either way, even if that one time didn't end up being one.

Saonel and Pirina better not have merged with loads of other Namekians. That is so dark and that is a permanent consequence from this tournament. It also makes them look really really weak. I hope that scene in the preview when we see other Namekians has nothing to do with fusion.

Don't like it either, but damn, anything's possible at this point.

Waiting for the next episode is going to be a pain.

[HeroR]

That is knowing someone since he knew what Piccolo was, how he died, and what he was about. More than what can be said about those Namekians who knows crap about Piccolo. Nail trusted Piccolo since he knew Piccolo's history thank the Elder Namek and even Gohan.

Nail literally says that he thinks only of the good of Namek and the universe. They can do something similar with these two as well. As I said, if they don't want to die and this ends up being the one and only way, I can see it happen.

Right, just like Kelfa getting Super Saiyan 3.

I think that was fake foreshadowing, not a callback. It's not like we don't get callbacks either way, even if that one time didn't end up being one.

Saonel and Pirina better not have merged with loads of other Namekians. That is so dark and that is a permanent consequence from this tournament. It also makes them look really really weak. I hope that scene in the preview when we see other Namekians has nothing to do with fusion.

Don't like it either, but damn, anything's possible at this point.

Waiting for the next episode is going to be a pain.

Again, Nail knew that Piccolo was going to fight Freeza, so they had a mutual goal, on top of knowing Piccolo's history. These Namekians don't have a mutual goal with Piccolo since they want to survived with their universe, which mean knocking out U7, not becoming part of them like the Borg. They don't want to die, which is why they're going to fight Piccolo and Gohan with all their have, not give their bodies and souls to some random Namekian from another universe.

It would have been a 'callback' to Gotenks getting Super Saiyan 3. And it really wasn't fake foreshadowing.

[Arg]

It could happen. There is no rule that states u6 getting erased if one of their warriors fuses with piccolo; technically they are still in the ring, so the fusion scenario is very likely. I could imagine one of the nameks being dropped out, piccolo promising the other to resurrect their univeres in case u7 wins (a promise also enforced by the fact that vegeta has a similar agenda), thus the remaining namek fusing with piccolo, meaning u6 is not immediately erased and u7's chances of surviving are directly increased (still better than being the lone warrior fighting for u'6 sake), which indirectly also increases u6's chances of survival/resurrection.

There're not still in the ring since Namekian fusion isn't like the god fusion. Once fused, you're fused forever and your consciousness is absorbed into the primary body of the other Namekian. Piccolo only has Nail's memories, but the Namekian known as Nail doesn't exist anymore.

The Namekians have no reason to trust Piccolo, nor Vegeta for that matter.

If piccolo keeps a part of the other namek's consciousness there is no telling how the grand priest would classify it. There is a very thin line about existence itself, even if nothing changes explicitly about piccolo, the energy and memories he acquires as part of the fusion could very well be granted by the grand priest as enough to keep u6 in the game.

As for trusting piccolo or much less vegeta for that matter, there is no need to, this is not about trust anymore. Piccolo would be offering them the most pragmatic and ONLY solution they have left, help us win and maybe survive, or be ringed out immediately and be erased. Trust has nothing to do with this, it's a matter of being cornered with few options left.

[HeroR]

If piccolo keeps a part of the other namek's consciousness there is no telling how the grand priest would classify it. There is a very thin line about existence itself, even if nothing changes explicitly about piccolo, the energy and memories he acquires as part of the fusion could very well be granted by the grand priest as enough to keep u6 in the game.

As for trusting piccolo or much less vegeta for that matter, there is no need to, this is not about trust anymore. Piccolo would be offering them the most pragmatic and ONLY solution they have left, help us win and maybe survive, or be ringed out immediately and be erased. Trust has nothing to do with this, it's a matter of being cornered with few options left.

Consciousness is not the same as still being in the ring, especially when that body won't return unlike with the god fusion.

They're solution would be knocking Piccolo and Gohan's asses out. Especially with this weird, maybe U6 won't be erased if we fused.

[Michsi]

Again, Nail knew that Piccolo was going to fight Freeza, so they had a mutual goal, on top of knowing Piccolo's history. These Namekians don't have a mutual goal with Piccolo since they want to survived with their universe, which mean knocking out U7, not becoming part of them like the Borg. They don't want to die, which is why they're going to fight Piccolo and Gohan with all their have, not give their bodies and souls to some random Namekian from another universe.

It doesn't have to be the exact same situation, and they don't seem to be as honorable and selfless as Nail was either.

It would have been a 'callback' to Gotenks getting Super Saiyan 3. And it really wasn't fake foreshadowing.

To be honest, I actually hadn't thought of Gotenks at all until Kefla stared acting like him in 115, since I drew too many parallels between Caulifla and Goku, and Kale and Broly. If they had reached SSJ3 I would have just chalked it up to all that unlimited potential they kept going on and on about, and not because they were supposed to be seen as Gotenks 2.0.

[Arg]

If piccolo keeps a part of the other namek's consciousness there is no telling how the grand priest would classify it. There is a very thin line about existence itself, even if nothing changes explicitly about piccolo, the energy and memories he acquires as part of the fusion could very well be granted by the grand priest as enough to keep u6 in the game.

As for trusting piccolo or much less vegeta for that matter, there is no need to, this is not about trust anymore. Piccolo would be offering them the most pragmatic and ONLY solution they have left, help us win and maybe survive, or be ringed out immediately and be erased. Trust has nothing to do with this, it's a matter of being cornered with few options left.

Consciousness is not the same as still being in the ring, especially when that body won't return unlike with the god fusion.

They're solution would be knocking Piccolo and Gohan's asses out. Especially with this weird, maybe U6 won't be erased if we fused.

Well ultimately I doubt super would even go into such existential topics in the first place, would be interesting tho, hope they find the best solution.

[Hawk9211]

I was thinking if gohan sacrifices or tanks the hit for piccolo. Either scenario would be interesting.

[Michsi]

I was thinking if gohan sacrifices or tanks the hit for piccolo. Either scenario would be interesting.

This is the best case scenario. Second best, what we see is a flash back. Third best, the one screaming is actually Saonel and this was to trick us into thinking it's Piccolo.

Worst case scenario, Piccolo is the one doing the sacrificing. And would ya look at that, worst case scenario is also the likeliest. ;_;

[namekiansaiyan]

I was thinking if gohan sacrifices or tanks the hit for piccolo. Either scenario would be interesting.

This is the best case scenario. Second best, what we see is a flash back. Third best, the one screaming is actually Saonel and this was to trick us into thinking it's Piccolo.

Worst case scenario, Piccolo is the one doing the sacrificing. And would ya look at that, worst case scenario is also the likeliest. ;_;

He isn't going out. 18 survived episode 117 when the preview looked bad and with an injury, Piccolo will do the same. They wouldn't show something like Piccolo being finished in the preview for an episode.

Episode 119 is going to be the next knockout.

[Hawk9211]

I was thinking if gohan sacrifices or tanks the hit for piccolo. Either scenario would be interesting.

This is the best case scenario. Second best, what we see is a flash back. Third best, the one screaming is actually Saonel and this was to trick us into thinking it's Piccolo.

Worst case scenario, Piccolo is the one doing the sacrificing. And would ya look at that, worst case scenario is also the likeliest.

That's funny and true

[BlueVegerot]

the chances of gohan going out before piccolo or 18 are basically zero.

[Ki Breaker]

the chances of gohan going out before piccolo or 18 are basically zero.

It's come to the point where I can expect him to remain until the very end

[Michsi]

I was thinking if gohan sacrifices or tanks the hit for piccolo. Either scenario would be interesting.

This is the best case scenario. Second best, what we see is a flash back. Third best, the one screaming is actually Saonel and this was to trick us into thinking it's Piccolo.

Worst case scenario, Piccolo is the one doing the sacrificing. And would ya look at that, worst case scenario is also the likeliest. ;_;

He isn't going out. 18 survived episode 117 when the preview looked bad and with an injury, Piccolo will do the same. They wouldn't show something like Piccolo being finished in the preview for an episode.

Episode 119 is going to be the next knockout.

Not saying he would necessarily get knocked out in the process, but just taking another hit for Gohan alone is bad in my book.

[namekiansaiyan]

This is the best case scenario. Second best, what we see is a flash back. Third best, the one screaming is actually Saonel and this was to trick us into thinking it's Piccolo.

Worst case scenario, Piccolo is the one doing the sacrificing. And would ya look at that, worst case scenario is also the likeliest. ;_;

He isn't going out. 18 survived episode 117 when the preview looked bad and with an injury, Piccolo will do the same. They wouldn't show something like Piccolo being finished in the preview for an episode.

Episode 119 is going to be the next knockout.

Not saying he would necessarily get knocked out in the process, but just taking another hit for Gohan alone is bad in my book.

All I care about right now is him staying in because of Piccolo getting hit. I want a fusion or this unlimted regeneration thing for Piccolo in this episode. Piccolo must get something.

[kinisking]

This is definitely the worst and best original super arc at this point. The waste of characters, random powerups, and wasted opportunities in general actually disgust me at times. But hey, at least it has good fights and i'll admit some good character moments!

[BlueVegerot]

This is the best case scenario. Second best, what we see is a flash back. Third best, the one screaming is actually Saonel and this was to trick us into thinking it's Piccolo.

Worst case scenario, Piccolo is the one doing the sacrificing. And would ya look at that, worst case scenario is also the likeliest. ;_;

He isn't going out. 18 survived episode 117 when the preview looked bad and with an injury, Piccolo will do the same. They wouldn't show something like Piccolo being finished in the preview for an episode.

Episode 119 is going to be the next knockout.

Not saying he would necessarily get knocked out in the process, but just taking another hit for Gohan alone is bad in my book.

how do you know he's taking another hit for gohan? it doesn't show gohan at all in that shot. Also gohan saved piccolo twice vs namekians in 114 and 115 iirc

[namekiansaiyan]

He isn't going out. 18 survived episode 117 when the preview looked bad and with an injury, Piccolo will do the same. They wouldn't show something like Piccolo being finished in the preview for an episode.

Episode 119 is going to be the next knockout.

Not saying he would necessarily get knocked out in the process, but just taking another hit for Gohan alone is bad in my book.

how do you know he's taking another hit for gohan? it doesn't show gohan at all in that shot. Also gohan saved piccolo twice vs namekians in 114 and 115 iirc

The preview is trying to trick us just forget it. Toei know exactly what fans think when we they Piccolo like that and are playing on those same thoughts.

[Michsi]

how do you know he's taking another hit for gohan? it doesn't show gohan at all in that shot. Also gohan saved piccolo twice vs namekians in 114 and 115 iirc

It's just speculation, but that shot looks identical to his face when he took a blast from Nappa for Gohan. Gohan protected Piccolo a couple of times, that's true, but nothing dramatic or anywhere close to what Piccolo did for him in 106 for example. Given how much they love using "Piccolo protects Gohan" scenarios, it's just very likely they'd jump at a chance to write one in again.

[namekiansaiyan]

how do you know he's taking another hit for gohan? it doesn't show gohan at all in that shot. Also gohan saved piccolo twice vs namekians in 114 and 115 iirc

It's just speculation, but that shot looks identical to his face when he took a blast from Nappa for Gohan. Gohan protected Piccolo a couple of times, that's true, but nothing dramatic or anywhere close to what Piccolo did for him in 106 for example. Given how much they love using "Piccolo protects Gohan" scenarios, it's just very likely they'd jump at a chance to write one in again.

Pirina does remind me of Nappa which is not a good sign.

[Michsi]

how do you know he's taking another hit for gohan? it doesn't show gohan at all in that shot. Also gohan saved piccolo twice vs namekians in 114 and 115 iirc

It's just speculation, but that shot looks identical to his face when he took a blast from Nappa for Gohan. Gohan protected Piccolo a couple of times, that's true, but nothing dramatic or anywhere close to what Piccolo did for him in 106 for example. Given how much they love using "Piccolo protects Gohan" scenarios, it's just very likely they'd jump at a chance to write one in again.

Pirina does remind me of Nappa which is not a good sign.

Both fans speedos it would seem. And all this time we thought he was a supposed to be Lord Slug's copy. Does that mean Saonel is Radditz?