"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Post by mfwlegend3 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:12 pm

Ugh, Episode 47 couldn't come any sooner. The anticipation for the scene when Black opens his mouth is killing me.

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Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:28 pm

I do wonder how Funimation is gonna the Copy Vegeta stuff. I mean it would be a dream come true if Copy Vegeta was voiced by Brian Drummond, but I imagine that it would take daaaays for either Sabat to fly to Canada and direct him, or for Drummond to fly to Texas and record his scenes. Plus, he'd be little too expensive.
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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:29 pm

Drummond is a little expensive for the Funimation dub and besides, he's an union actor.
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8000 Saiyan wrote:Drummond is a little expensive for the Funimation dub and besides, he's an union actor.
I don’t really keep up with Funimation outside of DB but I was under the impression they were a bit more flexible about the whole “no union actors” thing nowadays.
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Post by Scsigs » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:37 pm

Dpc292 wrote:
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Dpc292 wrote:...where’s today’s dragon ball super?
They had a Kai marathon, so they didn't air a new one.
...but Kais over...why air it still?
It's not over. The home releases came out, but the airings of it aren't done. The Final Chapters still has 27 episodes left to go before it's completely done. Where have YOU been?
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8000 Saiyan wrote:Drummond is a little expensive for the Funimation dub and besides, he's an union actor.
I don’t really keep up with Funimation outside of DB but I was under the impression they were a bit more flexible about the whole “no union actors” thing nowadays.
In some ways, yeah. They still employ Dameon Clarke to voice Cell the majority of the time, though he had to use a pseudonym for Kai I'm told. They also got Scott McNeil to play Shiki in One Piece: Strong World & the 2 seconds he appears in the actual anime, so they clearly have nothing against hiring Canadian & union VAs to be in their dubs if the timing works out for all involved. They just don't do it too often. There's also regulations in place for anime & nonunion VAs, where they don't get residuals after initially being paid for their work, so they don't have to worry about that. Hence why Studiopolis & Viz have been using more union VAs, specifically for their Naruto dub.
In fact, I think, ironically enough, 4Kids was one of the higher-paying dubbing companies when they were a thing. They didn't have to pay residuals, since they still had nonunion VAs, but they apparently paid them extremely well when they recorded for them.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:17 am

mfwlegend3 wrote:Ugh, Episode 47 couldn't come any sooner. The anticipation for the scene when Black opens his mouth is killing me.
Should either air 13th or 20th of Jan, all depends on if Toonami also do a New Years Marathon on 30th Dec. Let's just assume they are and say the Trunks arc starts 20th Jan.

Edit- Just checked they had 2 marathons last December so looks very likely the same'll happen this year so Trunks arc will start Jan 20th.

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Post by OmegaRockman » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:36 am

Random thought. What if they couldn't get Drummond for Copy Vegeta, but they got Kaiji Tang instead? Then the BZ dub got Sabat for their Copy Vegeta? That would be a cute nod to both of the currently running dubs IMO.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:56 am

Oh yeah this marks the end of the RF gi... :(

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Post by Scsigs » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:14 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Oh yeah this marks the end of the RF gi... :(
I actually like the RF gi. I mean, it's not as classic as his normal one, but it's still a decent alternative.
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Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:23 pm

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Oh yeah this marks the end of the RF gi... :(
I actually like the RF gi. I mean, it's not as classic as his normal one, but it's still a decent alternative.
I really wanted the RF gi to remain, I assume it was a directive from Toriyama-Sensei to revert back to the Z era one.

Sean said he's recorded the first few episodes of the Future Trunks Arc (which is confusing, as they had already recorded 47 by early July, as he mentioned doing so at the Anime Expo Super panel, unless he's referring to having recorded those episodes back then) though I thought the entire arc was done, as someone saw the scene from 66 with Trunks and his sword dubbed.
Thing is, back in late April, Chris assured us we would like Sean's take on Goku Black, but said he couldn't discuss it any further.
I'm convinced it's done personally, though they could still be recording action scenes and tweaking here and there.

Most likely the actors are having to talk like they are dubbing just ahead of TV, as they clearly don't want us knowing what they are recording, or even when they started, as we don't even have a definitive time for that yet.
The instagram post from Jason Douglas was late July last year, but Chris played it down - likely because Funimation and Toei didn't want it announced until later in the year, as it wasn't going to Toonami until January, but who knows.

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Post by Scsigs » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:14 pm

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Oh yeah this marks the end of the RF gi... :(
I actually like the RF gi. I mean, it's not as classic as his normal one, but it's still a decent alternative.
I really wanted the RF gi to remain, I assume it was a directive from Toriyama-Sensei to revert back to the Z era one.

Sean said he's recorded the first few episodes of the Future Trunks Arc (which is confusing, as they had already recorded 47 by early July, as he mentioned doing so at the Anime Expo Super panel, unless he's referring to having recorded those episodes back then) though I thought the entire arc was done, as someone saw the scene from 66 with Trunks and his sword dubbed.
Thing is, back in late April, Chris assured us we would like Sean's take on Goku Black, but said he couldn't discuss it any further.
I'm convinced it's done personally, though they could still be recording action scenes and tweaking here and there.

Most likely the actors are having to talk like they are dubbing just ahead of TV, as they clearly don't want us knowing what they are recording, or even when they started, as we don't even have a definitive time for that yet.
The instagram post from Jason Douglas was late July last year, but Chris played it down - likely because Funimation and Toei didn't want it announced until later in the year, as it wasn't going to Toonami until January, but who knows.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's recorded his parts already. Goku IS the most important character, after all, second to Vegeta. No one else can usurp them (whisper) ever. Though Trunks makes a good try of it in this arc. To not make sure Schemmel's one of the first to record his parts, I think, is kind of stupid.
My problem with what you say about their recording schedule, however, is that some things don't add up, like Schemmel tweeting some of the times he only recorded screams & really blew out his voice, & the way Sabat directs his dubs is that he saves the screaming for last so everyone has their full voices for the dialogue, which is smart. Plus, Chris Ayres didn't record the last few lines in Resurrection F's arc. He clearly started to recorded for those episodes only a few months to weeks before they went to air, since he went to the hospital only a few weeks before the arc ended broadcast over here in the States. I can only imagine that they're most likely only a few months ahead of the broadcast for the dub recording at most, at least for some of the actors. He lives in Texas, so they clearly could've gotten him for earlier recording sessions.
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Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:46 pm

Scsigs wrote:
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Scsigs wrote: I actually like the RF gi. I mean, it's not as classic as his normal one, but it's still a decent alternative.
I really wanted the RF gi to remain, I assume it was a directive from Toriyama-Sensei to revert back to the Z era one.

Sean said he's recorded the first few episodes of the Future Trunks Arc (which is confusing, as they had already recorded 47 by early July, as he mentioned doing so at the Anime Expo Super panel, unless he's referring to having recorded those episodes back then) though I thought the entire arc was done, as someone saw the scene from 66 with Trunks and his sword dubbed.
Thing is, back in late April, Chris assured us we would like Sean's take on Goku Black, but said he couldn't discuss it any further.
I'm convinced it's done personally, though they could still be recording action scenes and tweaking here and there.

Most likely the actors are having to talk like they are dubbing just ahead of TV, as they clearly don't want us knowing what they are recording, or even when they started, as we don't even have a definitive time for that yet.
The instagram post from Jason Douglas was late July last year, but Chris played it down - likely because Funimation and Toei didn't want it announced until later in the year, as it wasn't going to Toonami until January, but who knows.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's recorded his parts already. Goku IS the most important character, after all, second to Vegeta. No one else can usurp them (whisper) ever. Though Trunks makes a good try of it in this arc. To not make sure Schemmel's one of the first to record his parts, I think, is kind of stupid.
My problem with what you say about their recording schedule, however, is that some things don't add up, like Schemmel tweeting some of the times he only recorded screams & really blew out his voice, & the way Sabat directs his dubs is that he saves the screaming for last so everyone has their full voices for the dialogue, which is smart. Plus, Chris Ayres didn't record the last few lines in Resurrection F's arc. He clearly started to recorded for those episodes only a few months to weeks before they went to air, since he went to the hospital only a few weeks before the arc ended broadcast over here in the States. I can only imagine that they're most likely only a few months ahead of the broadcast for the dub recording at most, at least for some of the actors. He lives in Texas, so they clearly could've gotten him for earlier recording sessions.
I totally understand your reasoning for saying that - however, could it be possible that they simply record the screams 8 weeks before they are broadcast on TV?.
There were two ocassions, I believe in which Sean stated he was recording battle scenes, once in mid January, and again towards the end of August when he recorded Kaioken x10.
That suggests the lead time to finalise the episode ready to mix the audio, and pass it on to Toonami at between 8-10 weeks.

It is possible that they are just recording the episodes slightly ahead of broadcast of course, just like you say.
Or it could be that they are indeed saving their voices for all the dialogue, and recording the screams last minute to meet the lead time for Toonami, so they finalise the episode last minute.
It is possible, but unlikely, that they are so far ahead of broadcast as they won't be streaming it, and Toonami certainly won't be increasing their timeslot for it with one block a week.

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Scsigs wrote:
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Scsigs wrote: They had a Kai marathon, so they didn't air a new one.
...but Kais over...why air it still?
It's not over. The home releases came out, but the airings of it aren't done. The Final Chapters still has 27 episodes left to go before it's completely done. Where have YOU been?
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8000 Saiyan wrote:Drummond is a little expensive for the Funimation dub and besides, he's an union actor.
I don’t really keep up with Funimation outside of DB but I was under the impression they were a bit more flexible about the whole “no union actors” thing nowadays.
In some ways, yeah. They still employ Dameon Clarke to voice Cell the majority of the time, though he had to use a pseudonym for Kai I'm told. They also got Scott McNeil to play Shiki in One Piece: Strong World & the 2 seconds he appears in the actual anime, so they clearly have nothing against hiring Canadian & union VAs to be in their dubs if the timing works out for all involved. They just don't do it too often. There's also regulations in place for anime & nonunion VAs, where they don't get residuals after initially being paid for their work, so they don't have to worry about that. Hence why Studiopolis & Viz have been using more union VAs, specifically for their Naruto dub.
In fact, I think, ironically enough, 4Kids was one of the higher-paying dubbing companies when they were a thing. They didn't have to pay residuals, since they still had nonunion VAs, but they apparently paid them extremely well when they recorded for them.
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Post by Dpc292 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:36 pm

I wonder when they’re gonna give team four star character s on the show, and when they do, who do you all think will they play on the show?

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:37 am

If we get Jiren and Toppo as DLC in FighterZ, we should hear the voices for them early. I can see John Michael Tatum voicing Jiren since he could do the silent, but powerful voice for the role.
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Post by MR.Mark » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:44 am

Someone really needs to pester Sabat about trying to get Drummond for copy Vegeta. Those episodes were the closets Super has come to feeling like GT...so yeah, Drummond would make those episodes much more enjoyable for me.

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Hellspawn28 wrote:If we get Jiren and Toppo as DLC in FighterZ, we should hear the voices for them early. I can see John Michael Tatum voicing Jiren since he could do the silent, but powerful voice for the role.
Lanipator should voice toppo.

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MR.Mark wrote:Someone really needs to pester Sabat about trying to get Drummond for copy Vegeta. Those episodes were the closets Super has come to feeling like GT...so yeah, Drummond would make those episodes much more enjoyable for me.
I imagine the episodes have been recorded at this point, so there’s no point pestering him. If Drummond is in it or not, that’s a decision that was already made.
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Post by Scsigs » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:39 pm

Dpc292 wrote:
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Dpc292 wrote: ...but Kai's over...why air it still?
It's not over. The home releases came out, but the airings of it aren't done. The Final Chapters still has 27 episodes left to go before it's completely done. Where have YOU been?
...oh...I thought I heard it ended months ago.
The home releases are, but not the TV airings.
Dpc292 wrote:I wonder when they’re gonna give team four star character s on the show, and when they do, who do you all think will they play on the show?
Except...Toei hates TFS, especially relating to anything DB-related. They wouldn't even let their tongue-in-cheek dub jabbing the older Z dub in Kai, do you really think they'd allow them in anything after Sabat tried to pull a fast one there?
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Post by puar » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:35 pm

MR.Mark wrote:Someone really needs to pester Sabat about trying to get Drummond for copy Vegeta. Those episodes were the closets Super has come to feeling like GT...so yeah, Drummond would make those episodes much more enjoyable for me.
bad idea. the ocean dub is terrible

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