Just how strong will the fighters from the excluded 4 universes be?

[Toonami1998]

After seeing Jiren, its hard to think there is somebody out there that can handle that kind of power. (Besides goku of course), I mean even they, when watching Jiren fight Goku were impressed.

[Khandom101]

Probably more powerful than Goku and Jiren. Due to the introduction of Jiren, super has opened up new possibilities like the fact that the g.o.d aren't the strongest and there are mortals out there who are more powerful than them.
And not to mention the series is in for a long haul, it would be quite stupid if they turn out to be fodder though.
Well, I'm hoping for the best.

[Ki Breaker]

Universes are excluded by mortal level, which is not based entirely on power level, if at all..
Jiren being a mortal stronger than god of Destruction was made to be a big deal, that wouldn't be the case if mortals stronger than Jiren was a known fact..
Then again having such a being might just be a surprise for these low level Universe so who knows, it's easy to write around...

[precita]

While I'm certain they have more strong fighters than the current universes, expecting them to all be Jiren level or above is unlikely. That would mean tons of mortals are on the levels of Gods of Destruction.

I think you guys are overhyping yourselves, like how people thought all the current fighters were all going to be close to Super Saiyan Blue level before the TOP arc started and then most turned out to be jobbers, mooks and fodders.

[The_Destroyer]

Will probably be fodder to make 17,Vegeta, or Roshi look cool if they ever fight to universe 7.

[Simere]

I'm not of the opinion that the remaining universes have to be particularly strong, and I expect(/hope) that they won't be.

[namekiansaiyan]

The bugs are going to have a lot of abilities like Whis said.

[puar]

think about it. obviously they will have to show and eliminate damon and gamigarars. but theoreticlly universe 4 could have hidden them trought the entire tournament and win easly

[Krillin1994]

think about it. obviously they will have to show and eliminate damon and gamigarars. but theoreticlly universe 4 could have hidden them trought the entire tournament and win easly

I won't mind whether or not they aren't all insanely strong if we could have a non battle royal for a tournament with them (assuming we have to have a tournament with them) a YYH style dark tournament would be dreamy.

[Asura]

From what seems to be the case with mortal levels, it doesn't always mean stronger people = higher mortal level.

Where we go from here after Ultra Instinct though remains to be seen. I don't think we'll see the form again after this arc simply because how do you get more powerful than a form that dodges every single attack no matter what? Making Ultra Instinct only a temporary thing for this arc means that there could still be believeable, strong people out there in other universes that can give Goku a challenge.

[TheOne]

Universes are excluded by mortal level, which is not based entirely on power level, if at all..
Jiren being a mortal stronger than god of Destruction was made to be a big deal, that wouldn't be the case if mortals stronger than Jiren was a known fact..
Then again having such a being might just be a surprise for these low level Universe so who knows, it's easy to write around...

Jiren being stronger than his god of Destruction was a big deal between the participating universes. Not the exempt ones. Everyone else seems to have kept their cool. The only time the exempt Dieties seemed to express the most interest was when they saw Goku using Ultra Instinct. The only ones who had sweat on their face were the ones participating.

With that being said, we know for a fact that strength plays a part in mortal level. There have been multiple comments about exempt Dieties being somewhat impressed with some of the fighters and attacks in this tournament despite their mortal level. Implying that it’s good, but not the best they’ve seen.

[JazzMazz]

Universes are excluded by mortal level, which is not based entirely on power level, if at all..
Jiren being a mortal stronger than god of Destruction was made to be a big deal, that wouldn't be the case if mortals stronger than Jiren was a known fact..
Then again having such a being might just be a surprise for these low level Universe so who knows, it's easy to write around...

Jiren being stronger than his god of Destruction was a big deal between the participating universes. Not the exempt ones. Everyone else seems to have kept their cool. The only time the exempt Dieties seemed to express the most interest was when they saw Goku using Ultra Instinct. The only ones who had sweat on their face were the ones participating.

With that being said, we know for a fact that strength plays a part in mortal level. There have been multiple comments about exempt Dieties being somewhat impressed with some of the fighters and attacks in this tournament despite their mortal level. Implying that it’s good, but not the best they’ve seen.

Eh, not necessarily, I distinctly remember the universe 5 Kaioshin sweating bullets and being thankful they were exempt from the competition long before Jiren was in play.
So no, its not necessarily a good indicator of how powerful the other universes mortals are.

Probably more powerful than Goku and Jiren. Due to the introduction of Jiren, super has opened up new possibilities like the fact that the g.o.d aren't the strongest and there are mortals out there who are more powerful than them.
And not to mention the series is in for a long haul, it would be quite stupid if they turn out to be fodder though.
Well, I'm hoping for the best.

I'll put this mildy.

No.

They are not stronger than Goku and Jiren.

[Hawk9211]

First,there’s no scientific law stating that there can’t be mortal stronger than god in another universe.I remember one of higher universes gods sounding patronising when commenting on Jiren and goku’s strength.
Second,I don’t care for them to be that strong I want to see more techniques and hax,but freeza used to be the strongest.Due to story purposes there will be at least one guy that would give them trouble.
Third,a magazine said that universe 1 has species that are spirit based so I like to think that higher universes might have much interesting gimmicks even if they aren’t that much strong.

[Polyphase Avatron]

There might be a handful of mortal fighters out there stronger than Jiren. More than 1 or 2 would stretch my credibility. But you also have to keep in mind that Goku Black and Zamasu supposedly killed all of the strongest people in all of the universes in the future.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I'm a little torn. I'm not entirely sure there is a fighter stronger than Jiren the Gods know of. Especially since we know mortal level isn't power.

[Toonami1998]

I could see a team formed with all the strongest fighters from each universe to fight the remaining 4 universes in a yuyu hakusho style ending for super. But the next arc will either have to do with Zamasu returning or Vegeta going to Sadal.

[Lord Beerus]

It will be impossible to tell. Given their mortal level are in the acceptable standard, I would assume those universes do well in containing their threats, so their warrior must be very strong and capable to do so. How dangerous the threats usually are will be significant towards gaining a perspective of how strong the combatants are in dealing with them on a regular basis.

[GodKaio-Ken]

It will be impossible to tell. Given their mortal level are in the acceptable standard, I would assume those universes do well in containing their threats, so their warrior must be very strong and capable to do so. How dangerous the threats usually are will be significant towards gaining a perspective of how strong the combatants are in dealing with them on a regular basis.

I'd actually argue they have less threats because they are more civilized and developed generally. That's just my perspective though.

[Lionel]

They might have scattered faces throughout those universes with power levels on par or even greater than the bulk of what this tournament had to offer. Like others, I'm of the opinion that anomalies like Super Saiyan blue users, Hit, and the strongest Pride Troopers would be a very scarce commodity for them. Furthermore, I don't like the idea of Jiren's lustre as a ningen superior to Hakaishin being depreciated so easily. Maybe as an alternative we could hear about the Hakaishin from the exempt universes taking a greater interest in the progress of their universe's fighters and deciding to take on the most promising as disciples. You could eventually see a new roster of faces with good strong levels comparable to the best of this tournament with the crème de la crème being greater than even Jiren. Of course one of the rationalisations for this jump would be that they were all outfitted with god ki.

[buutenks]

Below Jiren that is for sure. Since Whis mentioned only 1 mortal among all the universes is above GoD level , not several. Tho i am sure if some big bad comes around, he can definitely be above GoD level.