Use the Super Dragon Balls to revive Trunks timeline

[dbzfan7]

Did they ever even think of that? I don't remember. That probably coulda been done to fix the timeline he lost. I'd probably have liked that better than the ending we got. Or perhaps gathering the balls for Trunks happens to coincide with the Tournament of Power, so Trunks can participate. We have the resurrection of his timeline as also part of the stakes and a happy pay off to the TOP beyond just survival. If they couldn't go get the Super Dragon Balls themselves, perhaps the story would be better if Trunks stayed in the present for the TOP, and then his opportunity to save his timeline comes from the TOP. It'd be a cool way to tie in the two arcs together.

[Meshack]

Did they ever even think of that? I don't remember. That probably coulda been done to fix the timeline he lost. I'd probably have liked that better than the ending we got. Or perhaps gathering the balls for Trunks happens to coincide with the Tournament of Power, so Trunks can participate. We have the resurrection of his timeline as also part of the stakes and a happy pay off to the TOP beyond just survival. If they couldn't go get the Super Dragon Balls themselves, perhaps the story would be better if Trunks stayed in the present for the TOP, and then his opportunity to save his timeline comes from the TOP. It'd be a cool way to tie in the two arcs together.

I’m pretty sure the Dragon Balls cannot effect a parallel world or they would done it. But it’s not about just getting his world back but Trunks and Mye wanted to be with the people that fought alongside them so they went back before Black and Zamasu murdered everyone which makes more sense.

[BlueBasilisk]

I think that's up there with 'why didn't Future Goku come back for a day to fight the androids, why didn't Future King Kai ever contact the heroes' and why did nobody tell Future Trunks where New Namek is so he could use their Dragon Balls.' The Future Timeline stories require some flaky logic to work as intended and don't hold up so well under closer scruitiny. The intended outcome was Trunks going back along his own timeline and Future Zeno coming to the present and there's no reason for either of those things if they just used the Super Dragon Balls to fix everything so the heroes never considered it.

[TheMikado]

Did they ever even think of that? I don't remember. That probably coulda been done to fix the timeline he lost. I'd probably have liked that better than the ending we got. Or perhaps gathering the balls for Trunks happens to coincide with the Tournament of Power, so Trunks can participate. We have the resurrection of his timeline as also part of the stakes and a happy pay off to the TOP beyond just survival. If they couldn't go get the Super Dragon Balls themselves, perhaps the story would be better if Trunks stayed in the present for the TOP, and then his opportunity to save his timeline comes from the TOP. It'd be a cool way to tie in the two arcs together.

My theory actually fixes both of these issues.

[jplaya2023]

Did they ever even think of that? I don't remember. That probably coulda been done to fix the timeline he lost. I'd probably have liked that better than the ending we got. Or perhaps gathering the balls for Trunks happens to coincide with the Tournament of Power, so Trunks can participate. We have the resurrection of his timeline as also part of the stakes and a happy pay off to the TOP beyond just survival. If they couldn't go get the Super Dragon Balls themselves, perhaps the story would be better if Trunks stayed in the present for the TOP, and then his opportunity to save his timeline comes from the TOP. It'd be a cool way to tie in the two arcs together.

I’m pretty sure the Dragon Balls cannot effect a parallel world or they would done it. But it’s not about just getting his world back but Trunks and Mye wanted to be with the people that fought alongside them so they went back before Black and Zamasu murdered everyone which makes more sense.

It just doesn't make sense to me that trunks was written off the show. He shoulda took the reigns as supreme kai assistant as that coulda easily been included in the EOZ and eventually he becomes a kaioshin and vegeta becomes the god of destruction. That would be pretty cool

[jplaya2023]

I think that's up there with 'why didn't Future Goku come back for a day to fight the androids, why didn't Future King Kai ever contact the heroes' and why did nobody tell Future Trunks where New Namek is so he could use their Dragon Balls.' The Future Timeline stories require some flaky logic to work as intended and don't hold up so well under closer scruitiny. The intended outcome was Trunks going back along his own timeline and Future Zeno coming to the present and there's no reason for either of those things if they just used the Super Dragon Balls to fix everything so the heroes never considered it.

future goku would've gotten destroyed by the androids (we don't know if he trained or not or how much stronger he gotten)

future king kaiou not contacting them is a sin, he coulda atleast told them about the ROSAT, and told bulma about new namek. That's the biggest sin.

[TheMikado]

I think that's up there with 'why didn't Future Goku come back for a day to fight the androids, why didn't Future King Kai ever contact the heroes' and why did nobody tell Future Trunks where New Namek is so he could use their Dragon Balls.' The Future Timeline stories require some flaky logic to work as intended and don't hold up so well under closer scruitiny. The intended outcome was Trunks going back along his own timeline and Future Zeno coming to the present and there's no reason for either of those things if they just used the Super Dragon Balls to fix everything so the heroes never considered it.

I don't understand how "Future Goku" would fight the androids if he is dead?
Unless you are saying mainline Goku should have gone back and fought the androids before Trunks arrives but that wouldn't do anything but create yet another timeline.
As for King Kai, who knows, but we do know he seems not to know about anything happening on Earth exclusively unless Kami tells him, at which point Kami would be dead because Piccolo died fighting the androids.

[dbzfan7]

Guys this ain't just about a potential inconsistency. It's more about how it could effect the story, and tie into the next arc. I feel it could make the stakes grander and have Trunks on the team.

[BlueBasilisk]

I don't understand how "Future Goku" would fight the androids if he is dead?
Unless you are saying mainline Goku should have gone back and fought the androids before Trunks arrives but that wouldn't do anything but create yet another timeline.
As for King Kai, who knows, but we do know he seems not to know about anything happening on Earth exclusively unless Kami tells him, at which point Kami would be dead because Piccolo died fighting the androids.

I meant him being temporarily allowed to come back by Yemma or Baba like he did in the Buu saga. Yemma let Vegeta have his body back to fight Buu and he'd just done a heel turn. Unless he stopped training entirely in the afterlife he surely would have surpassed the Androids at some point in that 10+ year period. It's just one of those things that maybe could have helped but it never comes up at all.

Guys this ain't just about a potential inconsistency. It's more about how it could effect the story, and tie into the next arc. I feel it could make the stakes grander and have Trunks on the team.

Would it really have a very big impact on the story? I mean, it'd be a pretty good reason to get rid of Zeno 2.0 at the end of the arc and it'd add a happy ending to the Future Trunks arc if it worked. What do you think Trunks would add to the team? I think he'd be a cool addition but I'd be afraid he'd sort of languish in the upper-mid card like Gohan and 17 do without a whole lot to do.

[dbzfan7]

I don't understand how "Future Goku" would fight the androids if he is dead?
Unless you are saying mainline Goku should have gone back and fought the androids before Trunks arrives but that wouldn't do anything but create yet another timeline.
As for King Kai, who knows, but we do know he seems not to know about anything happening on Earth exclusively unless Kami tells him, at which point Kami would be dead because Piccolo died fighting the androids.

I meant him being temporarily allowed to come back by Yemma or Baba like he did in the Buu saga. Yemma let Vegeta have his body back to fight Buu and he'd just done a heel turn. Unless he stopped training entirely in the afterlife he surely would have surpassed the Androids at some point in that 10+ year period. It's just one of those things that maybe could have helped but it never comes up at all.

Guys this ain't just about a potential inconsistency. It's more about how it could effect the story, and tie into the next arc. I feel it could make the stakes grander and have Trunks on the team.

Would it really have a very big impact on the story? I mean, it'd be a pretty good reason to get rid of Zeno 2.0 at the end of the arc and it'd add a happy ending to the Future Trunks arc if it worked. What do you think Trunks would add to the team? I think he'd be a cool addition but I'd be afraid he'd sort of languish in the upper-mid card like Gohan and 17 do without a whole lot to do.

He'd have more to do probably as if the tournament rides on his future world coming back, surely he'd have more to do. He also has Ikari which would make him a heavy hitter. Also Freeza and Trunks interactions would be priceless considering he killed Freeza XD.

[SupremeKai25]

1) Do we know if the Super Dragon Balls can affect other timelines?
2) Wouldn't that wish restore Infinite Zamasu too?

[BlueBasilisk]

1) Do we know if the Super Dragon Balls can affect other timelines?
2) Wouldn't that wish restore Infinite Zamasu too?

We don't know whether they can or not yet. Nobody has clarified in-universe. As for Zamasu, they could probably word the wish in a way that specifically excludes him, kinda like when they asked Shenron not to bring back any of the really bad people.

It would also have been really handy in establishing whether Super Shenron can undo Zeno's handywork.

[Meshack]

Did they ever even think of that? I don't remember. That probably coulda been done to fix the timeline he lost. I'd probably have liked that better than the ending we got. Or perhaps gathering the balls for Trunks happens to coincide with the Tournament of Power, so Trunks can participate. We have the resurrection of his timeline as also part of the stakes and a happy pay off to the TOP beyond just survival. If they couldn't go get the Super Dragon Balls themselves, perhaps the story would be better if Trunks stayed in the present for the TOP, and then his opportunity to save his timeline comes from the TOP. It'd be a cool way to tie in the two arcs together.

I’m pretty sure the Dragon Balls cannot effect a parallel world or they would done it. But it’s not about just getting his world back but Trunks and Mye wanted to be with the people that fought alongside them so they went back before Black and Zamasu murdered everyone which makes more sense.

It just doesn't make sense to me that trunks was written off the show. He shoulda took the reigns as supreme kai assistant as that coulda easily been included in the EOZ and eventually he becomes a kaioshin and vegeta becomes the god of destruction. That would be pretty cool

As Trunks explained in the manga, he only became an apprentice because he wanted to defeat Black. He didn’t want to be in the same world as our Dragon Team. He wanted to be with the people he was with and he did.

[Lionel]

I could perhaps see a far-flung scenario occurring where the Super Dragon Balls are transported to the future timeline void using the time ring. Once in place and after having become metaphysically "connected" to that realm, the dragon could be summoned and his power utilised to reconstitute the universe in the manner prior to what it deteriorated into during Black and Zamasu's crusade, obviously with those two being omitted from the list of things recreated.

Maybe taking the present timeline's Dragon Balls into the future wouldn't even be necessary. We never did receive any confirmation on whether Zarama had been erased in tow with the multiverse. If he somehow wasn't and if the Super Dragon Balls could be recreated sort of like what Kami achieved at the end of the Daimao arc then it's possible everything could be restored right then and there.

[jplaya2023]

I’m pretty sure the Dragon Balls cannot effect a parallel world or they would done it. But it’s not about just getting his world back but Trunks and Mye wanted to be with the people that fought alongside them so they went back before Black and Zamasu murdered everyone which makes more sense.

It just doesn't make sense to me that trunks was written off the show. He shoulda took the reigns as supreme kai assistant as that coulda easily been included in the EOZ and eventually he becomes a kaioshin and vegeta becomes the god of destruction. That would be pretty cool

As Trunks explained in the manga, he only became an apprentice because he wanted to defeat Black. He didn’t want to be in the same world as our Dragon Team. He wanted to be with the people he was with and he did.

it doesn't make sense, why be in a world with his exact age double? This trunks would be unique in our universe and have his own identity. It's just lazy writing because AT doesn't want to retcon the EOZ

[Meshack]

It just doesn't make sense to me that trunks was written off the show. He shoulda took the reigns as supreme kai assistant as that coulda easily been included in the EOZ and eventually he becomes a kaioshin and vegeta becomes the god of destruction. That would be pretty cool

As Trunks explained in the manga, he only became an apprentice because he wanted to defeat Black. He didn’t want to be in the same world as our Dragon Team. He wanted to be with the people he was with and he did.

it doesn't make sense, why be in a world with his exact age double? This trunks would be unique in our universe and have his own identity. It's just lazy writing because AT doesn't want to retcon the EOZ

Because they are in a world where the people they have been around are alive. How does that not make sense?