The original Super Saiyan revealed!

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by BrolyKale » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:28 am

Meshack wrote:
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Midichlorians overflew Kale's body, so much that some seeped into her brain making her nuts and also having difficulty containing them her body "blew" up? :roll:
That makes sense... :lol:

joke aside if Kale has the "original/legendary" form, it makes less sense......
How?
Because Kale's Berserker form is way too "dark", uncontrollable and destructive... if this is Yamochi's form that doesn't make any sense.
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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:31 am

BrolyKale wrote:
Meshack wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:That makes sense... :lol:

joke aside if Kale has the "original/legendary" form, it makes less sense......
How?
Because Kale's Berserker form is way too "dark", uncontrollable and destructive... if this is Yomachi's true form that doesn't make any sense.
“Yomachi” lol

Kale when she’s berserk is when she can’t control her power. That’s not exactly what the form is suppose to look like. Whenever she can control her power, that’s the legendary Super Saiyan form.

EDIT: “Yamochi” lol

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by mute_proxy » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:32 am

BrolyKale wrote:
Meshack wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:That makes sense... :lol:

joke aside if Kale has the "original/legendary" form, it makes less sense......
How?
Because Kale's Berserker form is way too "dark", uncontrollable and destructive... if this is Yomachi's true form that doesn't make any sense.
Wasn't the legend at first that the power was too much that it destroyed the first super saiyan? Or was it anime only

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:38 am

mute_proxy wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:
Meshack wrote: How?
Because Kale's Berserker form is way too "dark", uncontrollable and destructive... if this is Yomachi's true form that doesn't make any sense.
Wasn't the legend at first that the power was too much that it destroyed the first super saiyan? Or was it anime only
That was a dub thing. This is what was said about the Super Saiyan:
---Is a legendary figure
---Appears once every thousand years.
---Is the mightiest warrior in the universe
---Overcomes the wall which no warrior, no matter how gifted, can overcome
---Loves blood and battle
---Acts ruthlessly
---Is one of the two things Freeza fears

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by BrolyKale » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:39 am

Meshack wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:
Meshack wrote: How?
Because Kale's Berserker form is way too "dark", uncontrollable and destructive... if this is Yomachi's true form that doesn't make any sense.
“Yomachi” lol

Kale when she’s berserk is when she can’t control her power. That’s not exactly what the form is suppose to look like. Whenever she can control her power, that’s the legendary Super Saiyan form.

EDIT: “Yamochi” lol
*Yamoshi sorry

Hmm... it doesn't matter, her Berserker form is still there and Vegeta said "that might be the Saiyan's true form" when he saw Kale. So does that mean that Yamoshi (lol) was able to control that form the first time he transformed? ew

For me Kale's berserker form represented that bloodthirsty warrior.
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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:49 am

BrolyKale wrote:
Meshack wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:Because Kale's Berserker form is way too "dark", uncontrollable and destructive... if this is Yomachi's true form that doesn't make any sense.
“Yomachi” lol

Kale when she’s berserk is when she can’t control her power. That’s not exactly what the form is suppose to look like. Whenever she can control her power, that’s the legendary Super Saiyan form.

EDIT: “Yamochi” lol
*Yamoshi sorry

Hmm... it doesn't matter, her Berserker form is still there and Vegeta said "that might be the Saiyan's true form" when he saw Kale. So does that mean that Yamoshi (lol) was able to control that form the first time he transformed? ew
You’re acting like Vegeta was there. Vegeta was not alive wnen Yamoshi transformed. Vegeta was born years and years after. Although not canon, Broly’s Legendary Super Saiyan was the true form of the Saiyans. They’re doing the same thing with Kale but not in the same manner. But in the series, when Kale turns berserk, she cannot control her power. This is probably not what happened to Yamoshi.

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by BrolyKale » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:51 am

Vegeta clearly knows what he is talking about... it doesn't matter if he was there or not. Also the legendary super saiyan was supposed to be a bloodthirsty warrior... Yamoshi doesn't represent anything like that so thats lame.
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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:55 am

BrolyKale wrote:Vegeta clearly knows what he is talking about... it doesn't matter if he was there or not.
Obviously not if he believed the golden form was the legendary form but go back and say, “Hmmm, maybe she [Kale] has the legendary form...” It’s kinda weird that most Super Saiyans gave golden hair but Kale for some reason has green hair... She definitely has the legendary form. But if she has the legendary form, what do Gokuh and the others have...? They really need to explain this. Just thinking off the top of my head, maybe Kale has more S-cells than the others and because of that, she has a different form, the one Yamoshi had. In Tokyo Ghoul, have more RC cells can alter your appearance, your biology, your Kagune, probably other stuff. I can see the same happening or at least something similar with Kale and S-cells like the more muscular body, getting taller, and the green hair.

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:04 am

BrolyKale wrote:Vegeta clearly knows what he is talking about... it doesn't matter if he was there or not. Also the legendary super saiyan was supposed to be a bloodthirsty warrior... Yamoshi doesn't represent anything like that so thats lame.
Bloodthirsty doesn’t necessarily mean you wanna kill people. Gokuh was bloodthirsty and since Yamoshi became a Super Saiyan he probably was the same way Gokuh was. Both were gentle but consumed by rage.

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Captain Strawberry » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:10 am

Now I'm waiting for the explanation on what are S Cells and their origins. I'd be completely fine with this explanation alone if the Saiyajins didn't have the Oozaru transformation.
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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:11 am

Totamo wrote:We aren't going to take this seriously right? Because I guarantee you, he didn't and I perfectly ok with that.
Considering this is about Super Saiyans rather than story minutia, I am actually slightly concerned! :lol:
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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by BrolyKale » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:11 am

Meshack wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:Vegeta clearly knows what he is talking about... it doesn't matter if he was there or not. Also the legendary super saiyan was supposed to be a bloodthirsty warrior... Yamoshi doesn't represent anything like that so thats lame.
Bloodthirsty doesn’t necessarily mean you wanna kill people. Gokuh was bloodthirsty and since Yamoshi became a Super Saiyan he probably was the same way Gokuh was. Both were gentle but consumed by rage.
Huh? Goku was never bloodthirsty...
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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:12 am

Captain Strawberry wrote:Now I'm waiting for the explanation on what are S Cells and their origins. I'd be completely fine with this explanation alone if the Saiyajins didn't have the Oozaru transformation.
S-cells. Cells that are genetically inside Saiyans. There’s mothing to explain about them.

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:13 am

BrolyKale wrote:
Meshack wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:Vegeta clearly knows what he is talking about... it doesn't matter if he was there or not. Also the legendary super saiyan was supposed to be a bloodthirsty warrior... Yamoshi doesn't represent anything like that so thats lame.
Bloodthirsty doesn’t necessarily mean you wanna kill people. Gokuh was bloodthirsty and since Yamoshi became a Super Saiyan he probably was the same way Gokuh was. Both were gentle but consumed by rage.
Huh? Goku was never bloodthirsty...
Okay, guy.

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Captain Strawberry » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:15 am

Meshack wrote: S-cells. Cells that are genetically inside Saiyans. There’s mothing to explain about them.
It does for me. It bothers me that the Saiyajin have completely different transformations that are nothing alike.
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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by BrolyKale » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:16 am

Meshack wrote:
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Meshack wrote: Bloodthirsty doesn’t necessarily mean you wanna kill people. Gokuh was bloodthirsty and since Yamoshi became a Super Saiyan he probably was the same way Gokuh was. Both were gentle but consumed by rage.
Huh? Goku was never bloodthirsty...
Okay, guy.
The only Saiyan who is bloodthirsty is Vegeta when he was a bad guy, Goku never been a bloodthirsty warrior... at least I don't think so. He likes battle but that's about it, he never wants to kill people or destroy stuff.
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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:17 am

I just realized that because Yamoshi was in comtinuous search for a new savior, that is the reason the ceremony is necessary. It summons Yamoshi's spirit. I guess that’s what Toriyama was saying.

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:18 am

BrolyKale wrote:
Meshack wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:Huh? Goku was never bloodthirsty...
Okay, guy.
The only Saiyan who is bloodthirsty is Vegeta when he was a bad guy, Goku never been bloodthirsty... at least I don't think so. He likes battle but that's about it, he never wants to kill people or destroy stuff.
Obviously you didn’t watch the Freeza Arc. I said “okay” because you missed out.

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Meshack » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:20 am

Captain Strawberry wrote:
Meshack wrote: S-cells. Cells that are genetically inside Saiyans. There’s mothing to explain about them.
It does for me. It bothers me that the Saiyajin have completely different transformations that are nothing alike.
What’s the problem that they have two different forms?

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Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

Post by Deathbringer » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:20 am

Captain Strawberry wrote:
Meshack wrote: S-cells. Cells that are genetically inside Saiyans. There’s mothing to explain about them.
It does for me. It bothers me that the Saiyajin have completely different transformations that are nothing alike.
Does Vegeta's explanation of Bruits Waves back in the Saiyan arc not explain it enough?

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