"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[DBZ_Lee]

The dub is going on Funimation Now, but only the first 39. Then in batches of 13, so the next 13 will be added 2 days after episode 52 airs on Toonami.

https://mobile.twitter.com/FUNimation/s ... 2866292736

Exactly like what they do for One Piece, to be fair, they should have done this from the start really.
Very underwhelming announcement, and disappointing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66pQ_pK ... ploademail
Pretty much what everyone expected, just not in the exact way, right? I mean, this is akin to Netflix's streaming deal they made with Warner Bros for their CW DC shows for those shows' seasons to get on their service, what, 2 weeks after their final episodes air on TV. After 13 episodes air on TV, they're gonna put them on the service. It's better than nothing, but it IS kinda underwhelming.

To be fair, I can totally appreciate why they would be hyped, 1080p episodes ahead of their home video launch, but I feel they didn't need 3 hype tweets to build up to this.

I love Funimation, but this was underwhelming. You don't need a FuniNow account to watch these episodes, as they air on basic cable, and the dub is way behind.

This is how it is always going to be, unless it goes on a kids network where they air multiple a week, and they can put the uncut versions on FuniNow in batches of 13 like they do here - won't happen though I suppose, as Toonami likely have the rights to air the uncut version first, which would be miles back still.

Toei are dinosaurs, ran by guys who have been there for over 40 & 50 years respectively - until they've gone, TV will come first.
If Toonami weren't a thing, we'd have to wait for home video, but if it was on a kids network, then multiple a week, so that would have been better, but we'd have had to wait for 13 weeks to get them uncut.

Anyhow, this is how it is when cavemen are running a major licensing/distribution company.
Modern practices are benefitting the new shows - Black Clover, My Hero Academia, Attack on Titan... on to more positive things, Goku Black is coming

[Baggie_Saiyan]

As expected no episode December 23rd.

Next week we get to hear who'll voice Arale!

[DBZ_Lee]

I'm completely clueless about production here, so please, if someone knows how feasible this is, or isn't, then clue me in.
Would it be possible for a limited period of say, 6 months for Funimation to produce an additional batch of say 20 or so episodes, so that when Kai finishes mid July, they air 2 Super until the end of December, then go back to one?.
That way, they meet the demand for more episodes, and reduce the gap to the sub to just 12 months.
I'm sure Toonami would jump at the chance to kick off the block with 2 episodes.

[sintzu]

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I'm completely clueless about production here, so please, if someone knows how feasible this is, or isn't, then clue me in.
Would it be possible for a limited period of say, 6 months for Funimation to produce an additional batch of say 20 or so episodes, so that when Kai finishes mid July, they air 2 Super until the end of December, then go back to one?.
That way, they meet the demand for more episodes, and reduce the gap to the sub to just 12 months.
I'm sure Toonami would jump at the chance to kick off the block with 2 episodes.

I don't know much either but I think the issue with that would be them getting too close to the Japanese broadcast which they may not want to do.

[DBZ_Lee]

[spoiler][/spoiler]

I'm completely clueless about production here, so please, if someone knows how feasible this is, or isn't, then clue me in.
Would it be possible for a limited period of say, 6 months for Funimation to produce an additional batch of say 20 or so episodes, so that when Kai finishes mid July, they air 2 Super until the end of December, then go back to one?.
That way, they meet the demand for more episodes, and reduce the gap to the sub to just 12 months.
I'm sure Toonami would jump at the chance to kick off the block with 2 episodes.

I don't know much either but I think the issue with that would be them getting too close to the Japanese broadcast which they may not want to do.

Latin America are on 76, but to be fair, they are now on hiatus.
I'm not sure if Funimation or Toei want to close the gap, but 18 months is a long way back in this day and age.
I expect this gap to remain, but I can dream lol.

[sintzu]

[spoiler][/spoiler]

I'm completely clueless about production here, so please, if someone knows how feasible this is, or isn't, then clue me in.
Would it be possible for a limited period of say, 6 months for Funimation to produce an additional batch of say 20 or so episodes, so that when Kai finishes mid July, they air 2 Super until the end of December, then go back to one?.
That way, they meet the demand for more episodes, and reduce the gap to the sub to just 12 months.
I'm sure Toonami would jump at the chance to kick off the block with 2 episodes.

I don't know much either but I think the issue with that would be them getting too close to the Japanese broadcast which they may not want to do.

Latin America are on 76, but to be fair, they are now on hiatus.
I'm not sure if Funimation or Toei want to close the gap, but 18 months is a long way back in this day and age.
I expect this gap to remain, but I can dream lol.

The problem is Toei are very old school so we should be happy we have what we have. They could've made us wait till it was completely done in Japan before getting anything.

[DBZ_Lee]

[spoiler][/spoiler]

I don't know much either but I think the issue with that would be them getting too close to the Japanese broadcast which they may not want to do.

Latin America are on 76, but to be fair, they are now on hiatus.
I'm not sure if Funimation or Toei want to close the gap, but 18 months is a long way back in this day and age.
I expect this gap to remain, but I can dream lol.

The problem is Toei are very old school so we should be happy we have what we have. They could've made us wait till it was completely done in Japan before getting anything.

I asked Funimation about getting closer to the Simulcast, and this is what they said:

Hi there! Right now we have to respect our current broadcast agreement and scheduling with Toonami. Getting a show on broadcast is a REALLY big deal to both the fans and the original creators, so it's important that we work within the limits of what we can/are able to release and when. We also just announced that we're starting to release dubbed episodes for streaming, but those will still be in accordance to the broadcast window, in order to be considerate of all partners and parties involved. ^_^

So for now, it looks as though nothing is going to change, but maybe when the current broadcast agreement comes up for renewal, we could see more episodes.

[Scsigs]

I really don't see the whole "they're stuffing too many words into the dialogue" argument at all. At most, they're fitting the dialogue to the lipflaps. Nothing more.

[puar]

This week and the next will be like birth. Pure hell and then the redemption finally in episode 47.

This episode (42) i dident liked it the first time i watched it and i dident liked it now. Too bad we have to go trough this. I godamm hate those fillers.

[Scsigs]

This week and the next will be like birth. Pure hell and then the redemption finally in episode 47.

This episode (42) i didn't liked it the first time i watched it and i didn't liked it now. Too bad we have to go trough this. I godamn hate those fillers.

I see what you mean. That episode seemed very comic relief to me, but the "awkward" comedy they were going for is just cringeworthy, as is most awkward humor. Plus, I think that this was the most stupid Goku's been written in this series yet. Don't get me wrong, he's been written as insanely naive in moments so far, but not flat-out dumb like he was there. Z Goku would've figured it out. Super Goku's, literally, almost TFS Goku, he's so dumb. Seriously, TFS made jokes about their version of Goku being that dumb WAY before it became canon.

[HeroR]

This week and the next will be like birth. Pure hell and then the redemption finally in episode 47.

This episode (42) i didn't liked it the first time i watched it and i didn't liked it now. Too bad we have to go trough this. I godamn hate those fillers.

I see what you mean. That episode seemed very comic relief to me, but the "awkward" comedy they were going for is just cringeworthy, as is most awkward humor. Plus, I think that this was the most stupid Goku's been written in this series yet. Don't get me wrong, he's been written as insanely naive in moments so far, but not flat-out dumb like he was there. Z Goku would've figured it out. Super Goku's, literally, almost TFS Goku, he's so dumb. Seriously, TFS made jokes about their version of Goku being that dumb WAY before it became canon.

Z Goku had dumb moments that Abridge made fun of. Like Goku being unable to find the gas paddle in the driving episode when he drove a motorcycle in the first episode of Dragon Ball, forgetting what he was just told a few seconds ago (same driving episode), and all the filler scenes with Goku forgetting that he could fly. So, this whole "TFS made jokes about their version of Goku being that dumb WAY before it became canon" is BS. Where do you think TFS got their material?

And I loved 42 and 43. There're still some of my favorite episodes in Super.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

This week and the next will be like birth. Pure hell and then the redemption finally in episode 47.

This episode (42) i dident liked it the first time i watched it and i dident liked it now. Too bad we have to go trough this. I godamm hate those fillers.

They're not "filler" in the slightest Monaka's secret being out to everyone but Goku is about as far as "filler" as it gets and next week we have explanation as why Goku should only use KK in short bursts again far from "filler" and while fighting Black the events of Copy Vegeta still remain to the point Goku remarks that's what it is like fighting yourself.

Filler my ass.

[HeroR]

This week and the next will be like birth. Pure hell and then the redemption finally in episode 47.

This episode (42) i dident liked it the first time i watched it and i dident liked it now. Too bad we have to go trough this. I godamm hate those fillers.

They're not "filler" in the slightest Monaka's secret being out to everyone but Goku is about as far as "filler" as it gets and next week we have explanation as why Goku should only use KK in short bursts again far from "filler" and while fighting Black the events of Copy Vegeta still remain to the point Goku remarks that's what it is like fighting yourself.

Filler my ass.

'Filler' is just short term around her for 'plot points or episodes I don't like'. The proper definition haven't been used in years.

[puar]

This week and the next will be like birth. Pure hell and then the redemption finally in episode 47.

This episode (42) i dident liked it the first time i watched it and i dident liked it now. Too bad we have to go trough this. I godamm hate those fillers.

They're not "filler" in the slightest Monaka's secret being out to everyone but Goku is about as far as "filler" as it gets and next week we have explanation as why Goku should only use KK in short bursts again far from "filler" and while fighting Black the events of Copy Vegeta still remain to the point Goku remarks that's what it is like fighting yourself.

Filler my ass.

Still officialy considerd filler. The things you mentioned are minor and not importent plot points

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

They screwed up the translation for the sit up scene in the latest episode. In the original scene, Beerus asks Goku to do 100 trillion sit ups, but in the dub he asks him to do 1 trillion sit ups.

[HeroR]

Still officialy considerd filler. The things you mentioned are minor and not importent plot points

No it isn't. Where did Toei officially call these episodes filler? And Goku getting sick is the reason why Goku didn't used the Kaioken until the second to last episode of the Future Trunks Saga. So it is kinda important.

[Footlong Shoe]

They screwed up the translation for the sit up scene in the latest episode. In the original scene, Beerus asks Goku to do 100 trillion sit ups, but in the dub he asks him to do 1 trillion sit ups.

I thought they had messed something up, especially when Goku said "one trillion, two trillion, three trillion..."

Also, I thought Chris Sabat calling Chris Sabat a bad actor was funny, intentional or not.

[Scsigs]

Z Goku had dumb moments that Abridge made fun of. Like Goku being unable to find the gas paddle in the driving episode when he drove a motorcycle in the first episode of Dragon Ball, forgetting what he was just told a few seconds ago (same driving episode), and all the filler scenes with Goku forgetting that he could fly. So, this whole "TFS made jokes about their version of Goku being that dumb WAY before it became canon" is BS. Where do you think TFS got their material?

And I loved 42 and 43. There're still some of my favorite episodes in Super.

You are talking about filler. While I have seen SOME of the filler from the original Z, I'm talking about official canon; that being most of Kai & the manga that the anime staff are SUPPOSED to be basing their storyline beats & characterizations off of, not filler from Z. They've thrown in SOME stuff from Z filler, officially canonizing certain things within that filler that weren't ever mentioned in the manga, or Super as far as I know. Also, TFS rarely adapt filler outside of some fight scenes, so I call BS on YOU calling BS. What they've made fun of is actually Goku's character in general, as being a hick who doesn't know much outside of fighting & can be kind of a dick to others because he can be selfish. THAT'S the part of Goku's character they make fun of.
And, again, being naive &/or book dumb, which is what Goku's supposed to be, is WAY different from, "there's 2 Monaka's? He MUST be able to duplicate himself," or whatever that was. THAT was straight-up mentally retarded in its execution. Here's the thing. I can take Goku not being able to tell Videl was a girl at first glance in the Buu Arc. That's a part of his character, since he was established as not knowing what a girl was arcs earlier in the story & Videl had short hair, plus she's more of a tomboy. What's NOT part of his character is being SO dumb, he mistakes a mascot costume for the real person it's designed after when that person's RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. He would question it, I feel.
Also, are you actually comparing filler in Z to what's here in Super? Any episode not taking place directly in the middle of an arc aren't really filler. There could be filler moments, like a LOT of what was in the Battle of Gods Arc & some of the stuff in Resurrection F, but since the plots are based off a plot outline of the arc, but there are really no filler episodes in Super. Only the slice-of-life in-between episodes.
Also, this is most likely a different writing staff than Z had. Why would they feel any obligation to keep to Z's filler, when none of it matters in the context of the newer show because it's directly following the MANGA? That's something that pissed me off about the Hell scenes being retained in Kai: The Final Chapters. Why were they there? They weren't in the manga & made NO sense to keep in Kai, so why did they? What was the point? There was none is the answer there. I can only see the reason being to pad out the episodes to their fullest lengths, which is incredibly stupid.
It's an episode where it feels like the anime staff made everything up & the humor that was supposed to come from it was either forced, or incredibly cringy at best.

[HeroR]

You are talking about filler. While I have seen SOME of the filler from the original Z, I'm talking about official canon; that being most of Kai & the manga that the anime staff are SUPPOSED to be basing their storyline beats & characterizations off of, not filler from Z. They've thrown in SOME stuff from Z filler, officially canonizing certain things within that filler that weren't ever mentioned in the manga, or Super as far as I know. Also, TFS rarely adapt filler outside of some fight scenes, so I call BS on YOU calling BS. What they've made fun of is actually Goku's character in general, as being a hick who doesn't know much outside of fighting & can be kind of a dick to others because he can be selfish. THAT'S the part of Goku's character they make fun of.
And, again, being naive &/or book dumb, which is what Goku's supposed to be, is WAY different from, "there's 2 Monaka's? He MUST be able to duplicate himself," or whatever that was. THAT was straight-up mentally retarded in its execution. Here's the thing. I can take Goku not being able to tell Videl was a girl at first glance in the Buu Arc. That's a part of his character, since he was established as not knowing what a girl was arcs earlier in the story & Videl had short hair, plus she's more of a tomboy. What's NOT part of his character is being SO dumb, he mistakes a mascot costume for the real person it's designed after when that person's RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. He would question it, I feel.
Also, are you actually comparing filler in Z to what's here in Super? Any episode not taking place directly in the middle of an arc aren't really filler. There could be filler moments, like a LOT of what was in the Battle of Gods Arc & some of the stuff in Resurrection F, but since the plots are based off a plot outline of the arc, but there are really no filler episodes in Super. Only the slice-of-life in-between episodes.
Also, this is most likely a different writing staff than Z had. Why would they feel any obligation to keep to Z's filler, when none of it matters in the context of the newer show because it's directly following the MANGA? That's something that pissed me off about the Hell scenes being retained in Kai: The Final Chapters. Why were they there? They weren't in the manga & made NO sense to keep in Kai, so why did they? What was the point? There was none is the answer there. I can only see the reason being to pad out the episodes to their fullest lengths, which is incredibly stupid.
It's an episode where it feels like the anime staff made everything up & the humor that was supposed to come from it was either forced, or incredibly cringy at best.

Even the Kai stuff had Goku forget that I can fly moments. Kai has filler, it just cut down on the amount Z had.

TFS used filler for some characters and characteristics, hence why Goku is so dumb even when they play up him being a hick. So the whole Super made 'canon' dumb Goku is absolute BS.

Goku's being gullible was play for laughs and was exaggerated for the sake of humor, but it was hardly 'cringe', especially when fans talked about the driving episode where Goku forgot where the gas paddle was.

You don't have to preach to me about 'filler' in Super since I agree, there is no real 'filler' in Super. But, a lot of the humor in any episode in Super do exaggerated character traits, but it done for humor and not meant to be taking completely seriously. Not to mention, Super doesn't directly follow the manga since it has stuff from Kai in it. So Super is a hybrid of the manga and parts of the Kai anime, taking from both when it wants to.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Still officialy considerd filler. The things you mentioned are minor and not importent plot points

No it isn't. Where did Toei officially call these episodes filler? And Goku getting sick is the reason why Goku didn't used the Kaioken until the second to last episode of the Future Trunks Saga. So it is kinda important.

Yes I too would like to know where these are officially stated to be "filler". And yeah that's the reason when the Black arc was going on no-one was questioning the fact the Goku wasn't using the Kaioken.

Also since when does minor plot point = filler? So anytime in the original Manga where Toriyama focused on a minor plot points it's considered filler now is it?