"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Ki Breaker]

You know what, it was a good decision not extending Gohan/Piccolo vs Saonel and Pirina, because DBS just jobbed to Pokemon

Not this line of thinking again....

Didn't we leave this behind back after the special's ratings.

Btw, aren't these just the partial ratings? As in they're only for one region?

TV is dying. A lot of people watch online.

By the way, when are the big spoilers coming, don't we get it during the first week of the month?

Say, how long do you think until TV is actually considered "dead"

[Michsi]

TV is dying. A lot of people watch online.

Is that true for Japan too, though. We watch online, but as far as I know, there is no streaming service for DBS in Japan. At most, people record it and watch it later.

[Simere]

Not this line of thinking again....

Didn't we leave this behind back after the special's ratings.

Btw, aren't these just the partial ratings? As in they're only for one region?

Yes, it's only for one region, but that region is seen as being representative of the country overall.

[HeroR]

You know what, it was a good decision not extending Gohan/Piccolo vs Saonel and Pirina, because DBS just jobbed to Pokemon

That isn't the usage of the word 'job'.

[Michsi]

Not this line of thinking again....

Didn't we leave this behind back after the special's ratings.

Btw, aren't these just the partial ratings? As in they're only for one region?

Yes, it's only for one region, but that region is seen as being representative of the country overall.

The complete ratings changed the whole perception towards the special, though...
To this day, the series greatest animation effort got the lowest rating in DBS according to that list :/

[HeroR]

Not this line of thinking again....

Didn't we leave this behind back after the special's ratings.

Btw, aren't these just the partial ratings? As in they're only for one region?

Yes, it's only for one region, but that region is seen as being representative of the country overall.

The complete ratings changed the whole perception towards the special, though...
To this day, the series greatest animation effort got the lowest rating in DBS according to that list :/

110 wasn't the series greatest animation effort. That still belongs to 66.

[Simere]

The complete ratings changed the whole perception towards the special, though...

I easily could've missed something, but I don't remember seeing complete national ratings. I remember seeing DVR ratings, which were high, and also ratings for another region, Hokkaido, and they were high there too.

[Kenneth La Torre]

First new angles and now new kaioshins?
Yeah, the old Destroyed Universes are coming back for sure..

That means ... new gods of destruction too! :0

It was just doodling. Herms translated his tweet. So its nit new kaioshins or angels.

[Michsi]

Yes, it's only for one region, but that region is seen as being representative of the country overall.

The complete ratings changed the whole perception towards the special, though...
To this day, the series greatest animation effort got the lowest rating in DBS according to that list :/

110 wasn't the series greatest animation effort. That still belongs to 66.

Maybe I need to go watch it again. Could be that I was thinking about 'promotional effort'.

The complete ratings changed the whole perception towards the special, though...

I easily could've missed something, but I don't remember seeing complete national ratings. I remember seeing DVR ratings, which were high, and also ratings for another region, Hokkaido, and they were high there too.

I think we had both? The DVR ratings were definitely good, but I remember seeing someone posting another list which made most then realize the weekly list we usually got wasn't nation-wide.

[omaro34]

Not this line of thinking again....

Didn't we leave this behind back after the special's ratings.

Btw, aren't these just the partial ratings? As in they're only for one region?

TV is dying. A lot of people watch online.

By the way, when are the big spoilers coming, don't we get it during the first week of the month?

Say, how long do you think until TV is actually considered "dead"

In the next decade or 15 years or so would be my guess. It wasn't that long ago when renting video games and movies was a lucrative business for years until Netflix showed up, and when companies like Blockbuster refused to adapt to the change in their business climate, they went bankrupt.

Most people get their news online nowadays, the traditional news outlets are slowly dying too. Nobody watches sports highlights that much on TV anymore too, most watch it online as well. Just look at the alarming rate that ESPN is losing its subscriptions. Many people are cutting the cord.

Mischi gave a good point, I don't know how that trend is going in Japan, but I don't think anything stops them from watching Super just like I do on YouTube. Many families are realizing cable tv is an extra cost they don't need when they have the internet.

So to answer your question, TV is dying, and given how fast things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Baby Boomers saw it disappear in their lifetime.

[Ki Breaker]

First new angles and now new kaioshins?
Yeah, the old Destroyed Universes are coming back for sure..

That means ... new gods of destruction too! :0

It was just doodling. Herms translated his tweet. So its nit new kaioshins or angels.

Is that so?
Even the new angel sketch from a while ago who was seen together with other existing angles?

[HeroR]

The complete ratings changed the whole perception towards the special, though...
To this day, the series greatest animation effort got the lowest rating in DBS according to that list :/

110 wasn't the series greatest animation effort. That still belongs to 66.

Maybe I need to go watch it again. Could be that I was thinking about 'promotional effort'.

The complete ratings changed the whole perception towards the special, though...

I easily could've missed something, but I don't remember seeing complete national ratings. I remember seeing DVR ratings, which were high, and also ratings for another region, Hokkaido, and they were high there too.

I think we had both? The DVR ratings were definitely good, but I remember seeing someone posting another list which made most then realize the weekly list we usually got wasn't nation-wide.

That would be more accurate, Imo.

[HeroR]

TV is dying. A lot of people watch online.

By the way, when are the big spoilers coming, don't we get it during the first week of the month?

Say, how long do you think until TV is actually considered "dead"

In the next decade or 15 years or so would be my guess. It wasn't that long ago when renting video games and movies was a lucrative business for years until Netflix showed up, and when companies like Blockbuster refused to adapt to the change in their business climate, they went bankrupt.

Most people get their news online nowadays, the traditional news outlets are slowly dying too. Nobody watches sports highlights that much on TV anymore too, most watch it online as well. Just look at the alarming rate that ESPN is losing its subscriptions. Many people are cutting the cord.

Mischi gave a good point, I don't know how that trend is going in Japan, but I don't think anything stops them from watching Super just like I do on YouTube. Many families are realizing cable tv is an extra cost they don't need when they have the internet.

So to answer your question, TV is dying, and given how fast things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Baby Boomers saw it disappear in their lifetime.

I highly doubt TV will 'die' as you put it since video rental still do exist in the form of Red Box and even Gamefly, which both do good business. It will be smaller and more niche, but not 'dead'. It may even get a rebirth in a new form.

For example, people have said for years that the console and handheld markets were dying since people could just play games on their phones and didn't need a dedicated device like the Gameboy or 3DS. Consoles were also losing space to the PC thanks to Steam, which was also called a dead market in the early 2000s. What happened is that the consoles evolved to become more like the PCs and kept alive by their exclusives. Handhelds got a shot in the arm with the Switch, a console/handheld hybrid, and is a smashed success so far.

[ArchedThunder]

You know what, it was a good decision not extending Gohan/Piccolo vs Saonel and Pirina, because DBS just jobbed to Pokemon

One Piece was down too, Super probably wasn't down because of Gohan.

By the way, when are the big spoilers coming, don't we get it during the first week of the month?

Any time in the next 48 hours or so.

That isn't the usage of the word 'job'.

The miss use of the term job in this fanbase is the worst.

[perucho1990]

I think the rating were down because of U2 transforming into Magical Girls, that probably made the japanese fans to change the channel.

Anyway spoilers are out

120: Perfect Survival Strategy! The threat of U3's assassin!!

121: Total warfare! The Ultimate 4-Way Fusion VS U7's All-Out Attack!!

122: Have pride in yourself! Vegeta challenges the strongest!!

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GG Universe 4, they are done this saturday, U3 is done 2 weeks later.

Vegeta will fight Jiren and obviously job..

[ArchedThunder]

I think the rating were down because of U2 transforming into Magical Girls, that probably made the japanese fans to change the channel.

Anyway spoilers are out

120: Perfect Survival Strategy! The threat of U3's assassin!!

121: Total warfare! The Ultimate 4-Way Fusion VS U7's All-Out Attack!!

122: Have pride in yourself! Vegeta challenges the strongest!!

---

GG Universe 4, they are done this saturday, U3 is done 2 weeks later.

Vegeta will fight Jiren and obviously job..

Again, One Piece was down too, so it likely had little, if anything, to do with the content of the episode.
Titles aren't confirmed.

[Michsi]

Perfect Survival Strategy? Total warfare? Sounds fun, buuuut -

- I haven't seen these spoilers from the usual sources, so chances are that their not legitimate?

[perucho1990]

DBS ranked 9th place for the first time ever, thats another issue.

I hope the U3 isnt Biarra, how are we supposed to take him seriously after 17 offscreened him?

2017 ending with Vegeta jobbing to Jiren would be kinda funny for some reason.

Freeza will likely fight Toppo and Gohan goes for Dyspo,

[ArchedThunder]

DBS ranked 9th place for the first time ever, thats another issue.

AGAIN, One Piece was down too, so likely something was going on during that specific hour that lead to somewhat lower ratings than usual.

[BlueBasilisk]

Those titles are still unconfirmed of course but there's nothing too outlandish in there either. Vegeta's already expressed interest in fightig Jiren so unfortunately I think he'd be stupid enough to do it. :/

122 being on there is the most suspicious because it would be the Dec 30th episode, which would mean that they're either not taking New Year's weekend off or the titles show the Jan 6th episode. Something seems off about that.