"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Sonicjamareiz]

Piccolo: Well that was a hard fought battle with U4 right Goha... Slips on a banana peel then falls off the cliff
Gohan:

[HeroR]

I wonder what Furizaa's point in this tournament was. Although to be fair Freeza will probably do something after.

I would like to see Frieza have a good fight besides jobbing to Jiren.

He can't 'job' to Jiren. Seriously, will the fanbase please stop misusing this word.

He hasnt have any big win. Even in RoF his win was taken away. So its actually worse. But I'm not saying I'm done with DragonBall.. When i didnt like the Copy Vegeta arc i left without saying a word. Missed out on a bulk of FT arc and came back on the episode where Trunks got SSRage.

All I'm saying, if you wanna say you are done. Stick to it. Or else, GTFO. Everyone says it but no one has the guts to do it.

While true, he had some of the best character moments, especially in the Future Trunks Saga. I was just saying that Vegeta hasn't 'jobbed' since fans seems to want to used instead of just saying lose.

But I do agree with your other points.

[Kataphrut]

Piccolo really shined last episode.

If that is what Piccolo fans consider shine then so be it, but frankly, he seemed to me as an old frail man..
Falling down with an opened mouth and regretting what he had said to Gohan in the past, needing help getting up and facing the enemy, he seemed weak and frail who can still use his ultimate attack of younger days but needs protection nowadays until he can prepare it..
That is not how I wanted to see Piccolo and I don't even care that much about him..

Gohan could not have won without Piccolo in that fight. Piccolo could not have won without Gohan. That fight showed how you could handle making two characters of unequal power-level of equal importance by giving them both different roles. And also, there's nothing wrong with a character struggling or needing to learn from a mistake during a fight. That's more interesting than just being in control the whole time.

Do people just want Piccolo to be the strongest character again? That's not going to happen, and to be honest, as someone who likes Piccolo, I don't want it to happen. I don't want them to pull the shit they pulled with 17 where everyone is randomly God-level when the scene calls for it. I'd rather have fights that focus on a character's specific strength what they bring to the table, rather than just making it a numbers game again. And while the Master Roshi eps might be the Gold Standard for how to handle that, I'd say 118 has brought Piccolo up to a solid Silver.

[Lionel]

If you are man enough, leave NOW. Stick to your word and Never come back.

The Fandom wont miss you though

Tell me something I don't know.

If I do stay the Piccolo talk will be toned way down anyway and that goes for other Piccolo fans as well.

Piccolo is supposed to be Toriyama's favorite Character. But even he sees Piccolo has nothing to offer anymore. Your voice wont matter. Like mine. I'm a Vegeta mark and i am tired of seeing him Jobbing. But i will still watch it. because ilike Dragon Ball. So if you dont like Dragon Ball, leave. Your Piccolo march here or anywhere wont matter.

With all due respect, I thought the same about Vegeta after the Buu arc. His personality turmoil was resolved when he came to the conclusion about his rivalry with Goku. The festering depths of his malice were brought to the surface and he eventually forsook them in recognition to his responsibility in the worsening situation while coming to openly recognise the appreciation he does truly hold for his earth family.

Where do you go from there? For all intents and purposes it seemed like his character arc was resolved. Now look at the direction they've taken Vegeta in. It's a persistent seesawing of prideful arrogance and reserved but sincere passion to do what's right. The newest developments besides his growth up the power charts is the bond he's formed with Cabba and the potential visit to Planet Sadala.

We just now got done seeing and hearing the tales and intentions of the U6 Namekians. If you ask me, there's a good basis to start for Piccolo's character being revitalised. Although you could say that one already existed when they decided to expand upon the lore by introducing the Namekian Book of Legends. It's almost flippant how they gave a foundational nod of acknowledgement to the Namekians' significance to the lore of the DB universe while at the same time not expanding upon that concept. We've yet to learn anything concerning the Namekians themselves from it despite the book being derived from their culture and understanding of other species and their myths.

[precita]

Piccolo also never shot with his arm detached like in the training ep. Piccolo is supposed to fight with brute force. Remember Piccolo Vs. 17? Piccolo Vs. second form Freeza?

Where was that brutal back and forth?

[ShinTenshin]

Don't forget that the powerful Makankosappo seen in the U6 tournament wasn't from Toriyama because the Manga version don't use it.
I'd say it's most likely than the Makankosappo in the last episode was still a Toei thing.
The script against the Namekians is probably Gohan protecting Piccolo all along to thanks him for his help.

But it's a shame that he can't do nothing on his own, by example when Tien eliminate Hermila.
The same opponent that let Piccolo to the door to hell....

[DSB]

Tell me something I don't know.

If I do stay the Piccolo talk will be toned way down anyway and that goes for other Piccolo fans as well.

Piccolo is supposed to be Toriyama's favorite Character. But even he sees Piccolo has nothing to offer anymore. Your voice wont matter. Like mine. I'm a Vegeta mark and i am tired of seeing him Jobbing. But i will still watch it. because ilike Dragon Ball. So if you dont like Dragon Ball, leave. Your Piccolo march here or anywhere wont matter.

With all due respect, I thought the same about Vegeta after the Buu arc. His personality turmoil was resolved when he came to the conclusion about his rivalry with Goku. The festering depths of his malice were brought to the surface and he eventually forsook them in recognition to his responsibility in the worsening situation while coming to openly recognise the appreciation he does truly hold for his earth family.

Where do you go from there? For all intents and purposes it seemed like his character arc was resolved. Now look at the direction they've taken Vegeta in. It's a persistent seesawing of prideful arrogance and reserved but sincere passion to do what's right. The newest developments besides his growth up the power charts is the bond he's formed with Cabba and the potential visit to Planet Sadala.

We just now got done seeing and hearing the tales and intentions of the U6 Namekians. If you ask me, there's a good basis to start for Piccolo's character being revitalised. Although you could say that one already existed when they decided to expand upon the lore by introducing the Namekian Book of Legends. It's almost flippant how they gave a foundational nod of acknowledgement to the Namekians' significance to the lore of the DB universe while at the same time not expanding upon that concept. We've yet to learn anything concerning the Namekians themselves from it despite the book being derived from their culture and understanding of other species and their myths.

Actually this is the last thing they could do with Vegeta. Bulla was JUST born and he was fighting to protecting his baby and his family from getting erased. He's doing his job as a Father. Protecting his family. Thats the end of his Character arc. He should at least knock off Toppo and i will be fulfilled. He doesnt need UI or beat Jiren. Just one big win.

[namekiansaiyan]

If you are man enough, leave NOW. Stick to your word and Never come back.

The Fandom wont miss you though

Tell me something I don't know.

If I do stay the Piccolo talk will be toned way down anyway and that goes for other Piccolo fans as well.

Piccolo is supposed to be Toriyama's favorite Character. But even he sees Piccolo has nothing to offer anymore. Your voice wont matter. Like mine. I'm a Vegeta mark and i am tired of seeing him Jobbing. But i will still watch it. because ilike Dragon Ball. So if you dont like Dragon Ball, leave. Your Piccolo march here or anywhere wont matter.

I know my voice won't matter. I like talking about my favourite characters like everyone does.

How does Roshi and 18 have something to offer but not Piccolo? That is a lot of crap you are talking there.

Being a Vegeta fan is way different to being a Piccolo. I obviously like Dragon Ball but in this tournament anyone I liked from any Universe seems to not get much. Everyone I like the least is getting something and everyone I don't like that much is getting everything.

Piccolo also never shot with his arm detached like in the training ep. Piccolo is supposed to fight with brute force. Remember Piccolo Vs. 17? Piccolo Vs. second form Freeza?

Where was that brutal back and forth?

Piccolo has the biggest fall from relevance ever.

Ironically, I think this tournament may be Goku and 18 show. I never expected her to do so well.

Right now, it's the: Goku, 18, 17 show with Gohan and Piccolo being major secondary characters.

I am just thinking logically. If you had to predict one person to do something in the next arc then Piccolo would be the favourite. Even if it is not that big of a role and he gets messed about again.

'Logic' also said that Roshi's role in Resurrection 'F' was just fan service and he would have no other major role and 18 was out in 117 because she hurt her ankle in 115. And to point out, Piccolo had no major role in the Future Trunks Saga. Toei had to give him one since he didn't do anything in Toyo's manga.

Are you really putting Gohan and Piccolo in the same bracket right now.

Logic as in what makes the most sense and not what will happen. I am thinking like if I was setting odds for a betting company.

[precita]

It seems like a lot of people are still asleep, I can't wait to see the shitstorm tomorrow when more people see this news.

[Lionel]

I was speaking more in terms of an overarcing context. If you break it down based on what and whom a character is being depended or looked towards for strength then Yamcha would fit the role to an extent as well. It's almost guaranteed that Vegeta will be back for notable roles in the future. Piccolo doesn't appear to have that same opportunity despite having laid the groundwork down for potential exploration and development with some of these recent introductions like the U6 Namekians and the Book of Legends.

[sintzu]

Piccolo: Well that was a hard fought battle with U4 right Goha... Slips on a banana peel then falls off the cliff
Gohan:

Or one of those arms he and the other Namakinas kept dropping everywhere. It's like they're made out of really cheap plastic that breaks if you just look at it.

[Ki Breaker]

Piccolo: Well that was a hard fought battle with U4 right Goha... Slips on a banana peel then falls off the cliff
Gohan:

Or one of those arms he and the other Namakinas kept dropping everywhere. It's like they're made out of really cheap plastic that breaks if you just look at it.

I am not even sure if it's plastic, more like wet newspaper buts stuck together where some bits fall off every now and then

[namekiansaiyan]

Piccolo: Well that was a hard fought battle with U4 right Goha... Slips on a banana peel then falls off the cliff
Gohan:

Or one of those arms he and the other Namakinas kept dropping everywhere. It's like they're made out of really cheap plastic that breaks if you just look at it.

I am not even sure if it's plastic, more like wet newspaper buts stuck together where some bits fall off every now and then

It don't matter if they regenerate. It is time for some Universe 7 Namekians to be absorbed so his regeneration is like Saonel and Pirina's.

[BlueBasilisk]

Oh man, Piccolo only made it into the top 20. Those bastards are really doing him dirty.

Also bald theory confirmed. Frieza better start growing some hair ASAP or he's next to warm the benches.

[ShinTenshin]

So Vegeta's episode is Takahashi work with probably Toshio's help (remember his old post), we can state for sure it's a big Big episode.
SSBLUE alone is nothing against Jiren and we know by the fight against Toppo and Katoplesa (Vegeta trying UI) than Vegeta hasn't any other transformation in his pocket.

So prepare to have UI Vegeta even if it's for a very limited fight.
Vegeta need to lost against an powerful opponent to unlock it, that's why he want to fight Jiren.
Vegeta will be the first able to do some damages on Jiren.
I'd say that C17/18 and Gohan will fall from the end of 121.

The 122 will be U7 Versus U11.
Three fights will begin, Vegeta/Jiren (Unlock UI), Frieza/Toppo (justice Vs Evil), Goku/Dyspo (To finish their precedent fight).
At the end of the 122 we'll have 5 minutes.
I'd say by the end of 123 we'll have Goku and Jiren alone.
I totally see Frieza sacrifice himself to help Goku.

[HeroR]

It seems like a lot of people are still asleep, I can't wait to see the shitstorm tomorrow when more people see this news.

Most are upset about U4 going out so fast. With Piccolo, they're surprised he lasted so long.

People are more interested in 122 with Vegeta.

[sintzu]

The smartest member of Universe 7 falls accidentally of the stage? Its a joke. Its a fucking joke.

WHAT THE F*** ? I thought who I quoted made that up as a joke. How on earth did this idea get the OK ? In one episode he'll go from one of the best characters in the story to below Yamcha as the joke of the entire franchise.

Modern DB couldn't ruin the franchise's image anymore if it tried but then again I've said this in the past only to be wrong so maybe we'll see something that'll make this look good.

[Hawk9211]

So much for a multiverse tournament and non saiyans doing anything other than callbacks,parodies and old attacks although it’s not that new.Humans became cameos in z,now it is piccolo,the androids and Roshi will be back to sidelines in next arc.The next arc will probably be U6 saiyans arc.

My enjoyment has been inversely proportional to saiyan focus since dbz.It’s not like I hate saiyans;goku and vegeta are my favourite characters,I like gohan too even goten and trunks are alright.

But,can we move on from changing hairstyle,saiyan blood etc aka concepts that have been done to death?It is one of reason people like beerus and whis so much and wouldn’t want beerus to be surpassed despite how ridiculous it may get.

[GodVegetto91]

Wow talk about clickbait thumbnails on Youtube showing Ultra Instinct Vegeta. It’s infuriating.

[greeZH]

Finally universe 7 loses a fighter again. Now let universe 3 finish off the androids.