"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ArchedThunder]

He has 2 take out both Bugs and Shantsa for it to be an ok performance. Simple as that.

He is getting thrown out for no reason just like Tien and Krillin.

The Androids are only staying to be mind controlled to give the Saiyans another fight.

Why? WHY does he have to take out all 3? The dude has lasted almost to the end.
"Getting thrown out for no reason"? You haven't seen the episode.
Who says the androids are getting mind controlled, why do people have to read so into things?

[Kanassa]

As a big piccolo fan, I'm completely fine with this turn of events; Picolo's had a fine showing and I don't really need him to go out 'heroically'.

[sintzu]

At least be creative with your nonsense.

Tell that to whoever's running Super. Then again, why should they be creative when they have loyal fanboys like youself defending them.

Oh, you've seen episode 119?

So it's my fault they put out false information ?

I don't really need him to go out 'heroically'.

He ain't going out with dignity either.

[HeroR]

As a big piccolo fan, I'm completely fine with this turn of events; Picolo's had a fine showing and I don't really need him to go out 'heroically'.

Thank you for bringing some sanity.

Piccolo could have gotten more, I'm sure no one is going to argued that. But the reaction on this forum....yikes.

[ArchedThunder]

At least be creative with your nonsense.

Tell that to whoever's running Super. Then again, why should they be creative when they have loyal fanboys like youself defending them.

You're being incredibly insulting to the people who work on Super, this show isn't some cushy job, Super's production is rough and the people working on it are only doing so because they care about the franchise.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's shit.

Oh, you've seen episode 119?

So it's my fault they put out false information ?

You should know by now to not take the previews so seriously, you've followed this for long enough.

I don't really need him to go out 'heroically'.

He ain't going out with dignity either.

Stop it, you don't know what's going to happen.

[namekiansaiyan]

He has 2 take out both Bugs and Shantsa for it to be an ok performance. Simple as that.

He is getting thrown out for no reason just like Tien and Krillin.

The Androids are only staying to be mind controlled to give the Saiyans another fight.

Why? WHY does he have to take out all 3? The dude has lasted almost to the end.
"Getting thrown out for no reason"? You haven't seen the episode.
Who says the androids are getting mind controlled, why do people have to read so into things?

Lasted to near end but done hardly anything. He needs these wins to justify having done nothing in the first half. If he is going down then you can at least let him take out the main enemy in the episode. They are not even the some of the top enemies either.

Tien, Krillin and Piccolo were only chosen to make the numbers up. Everyone talks about other Universes having 'fodder' and that is what Tien, Krillin and Piccolo are to Universe 7.

The Androids are bowing so thay implies they are being controlled. If Vegeta is fighting the strongest in the next episode then the Androids are going.

Vegeta will probably fight the fuse Robot while Goku and Gohan fight 17 and 18.

As a big piccolo fan, I'm completely fine with this turn of events; Picolo's had a fine showing and I don't really need him to go out 'heroically'.

Thank you for bringing some sanity.

Piccolo could have gotten more, I'm sure no one is going to argued that. But the reaction on this forum....yikes.

He should have got more you mean. As I keep saying Roshi and 18 got a lot and Piccolo should not be getting less then them and I am not even going to argue why that is the case.

Half the reactions I have seen around the internet is them finding it funny.

[Xeogran]

>less interesting
>Shantsa had 0 lines so far so we know nothing about him which means by default he is a worse character than Monna
ok

He is a fodder we know nothing about yet you are depressed about him.

FYI, Monna had 0 lines until her focus episode too

If he was such a fodder, then why not knock him off with Jiren aura or something? Nope, they deliberately let him stay for so long. Only for nothing?

I hope Shantsa is who actually brings Piccolo down.

[Lionel]

To be honest, I find that a large component behind the frustration, at least from my point of view, is the fact Piccolo along with others are being cold-shouldered for the continued benefit of others. #18 is one of the biggest recipients of this tactic. Where is the undignified collapse with her? Why have there not been any firm statements about the finality of her having served her purpose? You now have speculation that she'll be playing an important role against Universe 3, potentially becoming controlled by Paparoni, even though that doesn't make any sense due to the fact that she's a cyborg with the only established mechanical parts being her eternal energy engine and the bomb that was previously removed. Her brain and thought process would presumably be organic, not artificial in nature.

Why is #18 of all people more entitled to further recognition and fights than the likes of Piccolo? No one anticipated her to be lingering about so long nor have as big of a role as she's been given. This might be presumptuous of me to say but I think a good portion of the fanbase, perhaps even the majority would have been inclined to shave off some of that time from #18's unwarrantedly bloated participation so that others like Piccolo and even Tenshinhan could have a more substantive role besides whatever gimmicky nuances they showed for part of one episode each.

[HeroR]

At least be creative with your nonsense.

Tell that to whoever's running Super. Then again, why should they be creative when they have loyal fanboys like youself defending them.

You're being incredibly insulting to the people who work on Super, this show isn't some cushy job, Super's production is rough and the people working on it are only doing so because they care about the franchise.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's shit.

Oh, you've seen episode 119?

So it's my fault they put out false information ?

You should know by now to not take the previews so seriously, you've followed this for long enough.

I don't really need him to go out 'heroically'.

He ain't going out with dignity either.

Stop it, you don't know what's going to happen.

To add to this, as much as GT get bagged on, even it had a lot of care behind it. You can read the interviews about GT and see that they're hearts were in the right place and they wanted to make a great show. It's just their ideas either didn't pan out or were misguided.

The same holds true with Super. You can criticized the writer and story points since the show is far from perfect, but don't you dare say these people don't care. These people had to deal with a rough production and still make an episode look good. You have writers who clearly care since you don't get episodes like 43, 75-76, 105, and 118 from people who don't care or understand about the series. Even someone like like me who isn't a fan of Toyo and his writing will never say he doesn't care or understand the series.

Super from everyone has a lot of loved behind it, regardless if you disagree with what direction it goes.

[Whatever]

>less interesting
>Shantsa had 0 lines so far so we know nothing about him which means by default he is a worse character than Monna
ok

He is a fodder we know nothing about yet you are depressed about him.

FYI, Monna had 0 lines until her focus episode too

If he was such a fodder, then why not knock him off with Jiren aura or something? Nope, they deliberately let him stay for so long. Only for nothing?

I hope Shantsa is who actually brings Piccolo down.

To buy some time/play support while the U4 bugs who are the real stars of U4 show off what they can do?
I seriously don't understand your obsession with a random fodder that had 0 personality so far to the point it ruined the show for you,Shantsa was never interesting and never showed much of anything for you to be attached to him so much.
They never promised anything outside of the U4 bugs,so it looks like the U4 bugs will bring Piccolo down at the least.

[HeroR]

Even more from Herms:

[spoiler][/spoiler]

[MajinMan]

I love assuming things before the episodes come out and stating my predictions as fact, too. It's not like the spoilers have had completely incorrect information and strange wording before.

[HeroR]

To be honest, I find that a large component behind the frustration, at least from my point of view, is the fact Piccolo along with others are being cold-shouldered for the continued benefit of others. #18 is one of the biggest recipients of this tactic. Where is the undignified collapse with her? Why have there not been any firm statements about the finality of her having served her purpose? You now have speculation that she'll be playing an important role against Universe 3, potentially becoming controlled by Paparoni, even though that doesn't make any sense due to the fact that she's a cyborg with the only established mechanical parts being her eternal energy engine and the bomb that was previously removed. Her brain and thought process would presumably be organic, not artificial in nature.

Why is #18 of all people more entitled to further recognition and fights than the likes of Piccolo? No one anticipated her to be lingering about so long nor have as big of a role as she's been given. This might be presumptuous of me to say but I think a good portion of the fanbase, perhaps even the majority would have been inclined to shave off some of that time from #18's unwarrantedly bloated participation so that others like Piccolo and even Tenshinhan could have a more substantive role besides whatever gimmicky nuances they showed for part of one episode each.

It isn't like 18 'stole' airtime from Piccolo, so why is she getting the butt end of this? She didn't interact with Piccolo, fought none of his opponents, and was absent from 102-115, minus the cameo in 109-110, only to start having scene time again in 117.

Would it had made Piccolo fans feel better if 18 and Piccolo went out in the same episode so it wouldn't feel like 18 stole his shine?

[Ki Breaker]

Hey Piccolo is out maybe Gohan gets to do his thin-
[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Xeogran]

I seriously don't understand your obsession with a random fodder that had 0 personality so far to the point it ruined the show for you

Because it is an UNIVERSAL Tournament, and I believed that a God as sneaky as Quitela wouldn't bring a "fodder" ?

I liked his design, and thought he would amount to something. Well, we don't know who eliminates Piccolo yet at least.

They don't need to promise anything. A black horse would be fun to see in this Tournament, someone who we didn't expect to be strong, actually turn out to be. Instead it goes a boring linear route. Yay, Goku vs Jiren round 2, I'm so hype for that now.

Why make this a Battle Royale, if only 5 characters matter?

[namekiansaiyan]

To be honest, I find that a large component behind the frustration, at least from my point of view, is the fact Piccolo along with others are being cold-shouldered for the continued benefit of others. #18 is one of the biggest recipients of this tactic. Where is the undignified collapse with her? Why have there not been any firm statements about the finality of her having served her purpose? You now have speculation that she'll be playing an important role against Universe 3, potentially becoming controlled by Paparoni, even though that doesn't make any sense due to the fact that she's a cyborg with the only established mechanical parts being her eternal energy engine and the bomb that was previously removed. Her brain and thought process would presumably be organic, not artificial in nature.

Why is #18 of all people more entitled to further recognition and fights than the likes of Piccolo? No one anticipated her to be lingering about so long nor have as big of a role as she's been given. This might be presumptuous of me to say but I think a good portion of the fanbase, perhaps even the majority would have been inclined to shave off some of that time from #18's unwarrantedly bloated participation so that others like Piccolo and even Tenshinhan could have a more substantive role besides whatever gimmicky nuances they showed for part of one episode each.

I don't want 18 and Roshi getting less treatment then they have it is I just don't understand why Piccolo and Tien got so little. I seriously don't understand what 18 and Roshi have done to deserve to get more than Piccolo and Tien.

They could let Piccolo finish Universe 4 and could have given many fighters from Universe 9 to Tien.

It isn't like 18 'stole' airtime from Piccolo, so why is she getting the butt end of this? She didn't interact with Piccolo, fought none of his opponents, and was absent from 102-115, minus the cameo in 109-110, only to start having scene time again in 117.

Would it had made Piccolo fans feel better if 18 and Piccolo went out in the same episode so it wouldn't feel like 18 stole his shine?

18 had a lot of action in the first half and Piccolo only had a 15 second fight. In 22 episodes Piccolo has only had 2 fights.

I don't want 18 to have less than she has had but Piccolo should be getting more than he has got.

[Lionel]

To be honest, I find that a large component behind the frustration, at least from my point of view, is the fact Piccolo along with others are being cold-shouldered for the continued benefit of others. #18 is one of the biggest recipients of this tactic. Where is the undignified collapse with her? Why have there not been any firm statements about the finality of her having served her purpose? You now have speculation that she'll be playing an important role against Universe 3, potentially becoming controlled by Paparoni, even though that doesn't make any sense due to the fact that she's a cyborg with the only established mechanical parts being her eternal energy engine and the bomb that was previously removed. Her brain and thought process would presumably be organic, not artificial in nature.

Why is #18 of all people more entitled to further recognition and fights than the likes of Piccolo? No one anticipated her to be lingering about so long nor have as big of a role as she's been given. This might be presumptuous of me to say but I think a good portion of the fanbase, perhaps even the majority would have been inclined to shave off some of that time from #18's unwarrantedly bloated participation so that others like Piccolo and even Tenshinhan could have a more substantive role besides whatever gimmicky nuances they showed for part of one episode each.

It isn't like 18 'stole' airtime from Piccolo, so why is she getting the butt end of this? She didn't interact with Piccolo, fought none of his opponents, and was absent from 102-115, minus the cameo in 109-110, only to start having scene time again in 117.

Would it had made Piccolo fans feel better if 18 and Piccolo went out in the same episode so it wouldn't feel like 18 stole his shine?

By which ladder step of narrative importance are we judging her role? I would assume that the greater portion would have her classified somewhere just shy above the earthlings. As for the grievance in relation to Piccolo, it's not a matter of her interactions or lack thereof that are the problem but this notion in the planning process of the studio to bequeath such an important role, by considered standards of the placement she was believed to have, when others were left with much to be desired. How did they come to the decision to give her such prominence? Promotional material can't be used as a justification since she stood more or less in conjunction with the other subsidiary members of U7.

[Whatever]

Hey Piccolo is out maybe Gohan gets to do his thin-
[spoiler][/spoiler]

You are talking like Piccolo was holding Gohan back or something,we already saw what Gohan is capable of alone,you should remember it after all its the same episode your favourite Frost got erased in that one.Piccolo being out means Gohan lost his shield,so thats to be expected.

[sintzu]

You're being incredibly insulting to the people who work on Super.

The people working on it are only doing so because they care about the franchise.

You should know by now to not take the previews so seriously, you've followed this for long enough.

Stop it, you don't know what's going to happen.

Media gets criticized all the time. you're making it seem like I'm going after them personally (as in getting them in real trouble) like what some crazy people do to game developers.

They're doing it because they're paid to.

That's on them.

I'm just commenting on what THEY put out. I hope it turns out different.

[Kanassa]

I don't really need him to go out 'heroically'.

He ain't going out with dignity either.

He doesn't need to

As a big piccolo fan, I'm completely fine with this turn of events; Picolo's had a fine showing and I don't really need him to go out 'heroically'.

Thank you for bringing some sanity.

Piccolo could have gotten more, I'm sure no one is going to argued that. But the reaction on this forum....yikes.

Yes, he could have gotten more. So could Roshi. Everyone could have gotten more. It's not about what they get, it's what they get. For me, the character doesn't need to be powerful, doesn't need a bad ass exit, they just need good character moments.

Also, directed to n general people: A fight not lasting more than one episode doesn't make the characters ' involved fodder

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