TheMikado wrote:Totamo wrote:namekiansaiyan wrote:
All Universe 7 members could easily get their own moment with universe 7 not dominating. It is not hard. Firstly tok many fights ended with eliminations.
The Trio de dangers could have lost to Goku and Vegeta but not be eliminated and they could have faced other fighters. They spent way too much time on certain characters even know we know there are other fights happening.
The tournament only seems to move when Goku is involved as well which is the major problem.
Don't lie.
If every U7 fighter had one solofight but was then knocked out, you would complain about lack of eliminations or screentime.
If every U7 fighter had ton of eliminations but was then knocked out, you would complain about lack of solofights and screentime.
If every U7 had good screentime but was then knocked out, you would complain about lack of solofights and eliminations.
I know this because this has been the reaction everytime someone from our team lost. Even Roshi was bitched about because he did too much.
People want their characters to do more, but that comes with a cost, other characters will have to do less. This is a monkey paw game and its time to accept that.
You wanted Piccolo to do something, he did. Sorry, it wasn't more, but guess what they could have just had Goku here and said screw off to everyone else. Then something becomes nothing.
I don't think it has to be either or though.
For instance, Roshi didn't need to fight Frost. He could just fight some fodder.
Goku doesn't need to fight fodder characters reserve them for Roshi,Krillin, Tien.
I think people want them to:
-fight characters that are on their level to make the fights interesting and believable
-not all lost fights end in eliminations. Or if they do then its applies evenly to Goku and Vegeta as well. That way the tension is heightened.
-View non-universe 6/7 fights and have them have actual outcomes. Thus fair these two universes have elimination 95% of the fighters. When statistically they should only account for 25% if fighting levels were competitive.
-Show unique traits that characters have in use them in novel ways. Piccolo should have a ton of inventive techniques which would work well. I would have liked to see Krillin's destructo disc used to cut off sections of the ring.
There are a ton of things which could have been done with 80 fighters in a melee. Everyone has a different opinion of what could be done but it could definitely have been improved.
Counterpoint. When the z fighters fought freeza soldiers in the movie, a lot of people found it insulting because they were fighting fodder. No one want to see them fight fodder but big dogs. Second, if they struggle but Goku and Vegeta are around and stronger, can't Goku and Vegeta just do it themselves? Like usually.
People say they want to see those fights but they really don't because you don't care about those characters, which would be the complaint. Also people will say they rather see their favorite character fight.
Everyone in dragon ball fights the same, this has been said for years, why do you think xenoverse has to make up moves.
Of course, more can be done, but its not an easy thing to do. There is a reason why most battle shonen don't do battle royales, its too difficult to write, hell of a lot more difficult to draw and insanely more difficult to animate. None of you have once taken in account of that.
People have said this arc has no ambition, that couldn't be more of a lie. This arc was too ambitous, there was no way they could pull all off and people are angry that they couldn't.
You are all free to criticize the show but always remember don't just see a show from a viewing aspect but also a production one.
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