"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Big Chief]

I guess I'm the only one that's hype for U3 episode...

I'm hyped for it. It sounds like it's going to be a blast.

[The gr]

I guess I'm the only one that's hype for U3 episode...

I'm hyped, I really hop the theory of the androids getting controlled comes to fruition; though I would question how that happens considering they're not really mechanically androids...

Aren't #17/#18 cyborg,can anyone explain the concept of androids.I'm also pretty excited for that ep.

[Kanassa]

I guess I'm the only one that's hype for U3 episode...

I'm hyped, I really hop the theory of the androids getting controlled comes to fruition; though I would question how that happens considering they're not really mechanically androids...

Aren't #17/#18 cyborg,can anyone explain the concept of androids.I'm also pretty excited for that ep.

They're cyborges, but the parts that make them that way are organic, not mechanical like 16 (Not saying he's a cyborge)

[CJStriker_CBR]

I guess I'm the only one that's hype for U3 episode...

I was Hyped for them at the start since they had the Whole Tranformers thing going for them and their Universe boosted the Cybertron/Baranoia from Ohrangers look to them!

However the last like nearly 20 episodes they where left as nearly background characters with little development and just kept getting fast kicked by others. But they stayed around and now seem they will be the Bronze league winners at least, being the last 3 universes to survive to the near end..............Got to say being in the background did them good.

So I am interested in what they can do, I am hoping they will prove to me what I hoped for them earlier on. Be interesting to see.

Also, just saying that whole stay in the background thing is not bad, Anyone that is a WWE Fan knows in a Royal Rumble that is what you do. Stay away from as many fighters as you can, let them beat each other till tired, stay away from the big guys, NEVER go on the top rope and always take advantage of the weaker/distracted foes. If more fighters took these rules into account in the ToP, many more would be around. Seems U3 might have a version of the Royal Rumble in their universe.

[Bullza]

God dammit, here I was refreshing Crunchyroll every 10 minutes waiting for the new episode to be uploaded and it's the wrong day.

[Big Chief]

I'm hyped, I really hop the theory of the androids getting controlled comes to fruition; though I would question how that happens considering they're not really mechanically androids...

Aren't #17/#18 cyborg,can anyone explain the concept of androids.I'm also pretty excited for that ep.

They're cyborges, but the parts that make them that way are organic, not mechanical like 16 (Not saying he's a cyborge)

This is the crazy science universe we are talking about here. I wouldn't put it past them to be able to control the Androids through the magic of science.

[The gr]

They're cyborgs, but the parts that make them that way are organic, not mechanical like 16 (Not saying he's a cyborg)

I see.Can't wait for some good action with the robots of u3,they really have good design/voice.

God dammit, here I was refreshing Crunchyroll every 10 minutes waiting for the new episode to be uploaded and it's the wrong day.

This made me laugh.

[Big Chief]

I guess I'm the only one that's hype for U3 episode...

I was Hyped for them at the start since they had the Whole Tranformers thing going for them and their Universe boosted the Cybertron/Baranoia from Ohrangers look to them!

However the last like nearly 20 episodes they where left as nearly background characters with little development and just kept getting fast kicked by others. But they stayed around and now seem they will be the Bronze league winners at least, being the last 3 universes to survive to the near end..............Got to say being in the background did them good.

So I am interested in what they can do, I am hoping they will prove to me what I hoped for them earlier on. Be interesting to see.

Also, just saying that whole stay in the background thing is not bad, Anyone that is a WWE Fan knows in a Royal Rumble that is what you do. Stay away from as many fighters as you can, let them beat each other till tired, stay away from the big guys, NEVER go on the top rope and always take advantage of the weaker/distracted foes. If more fighters took these rules into account in the ToP, many more would be around. Seems U3 might have a version of the Royal Rumble in their universe.

While most of U3 has been left in the background, they do have one thing going for them, and that's Katopesla. That guy has probably become my favorite new character this arc.

[Noah]

I actually more interested in seeing the bugs from U4 creating some havoc.

[CJStriker_CBR]

I was suprised on my browsing of DB News today to see my name mentioned and my reaction to 117 and Brianne's faith on these forums to be seen in such positive light. That means allot for me as a fan of Brianne's for trying to get that ideal across of positive one can best be, glad it left an impression, but mostly I want my posts to help put Brianne and U2 be seen in the best light I can show possible, Thanks for that HeroR.

Also for the record I am Male.

Indeed I was not happy about 117, but while the story elements I can debate about, a character is still a character that is important to their fanbase. Android 18 IS important to groups of fans, for them her moment was something they been waiting for to see her shine in, so indeed My Joy to 18 fans for getting a moment they will treasure, I just hope they see Brianne in a Positive light as well cause she was apart of that and Brianne's Character gave her all for here universe as their champion but it just was not enough. But she learned a lesson from it to Grow herself, showing she is a deeper character then many may have thought.

In the end it should not be worrying if one character gets promoted at the expanse of another, it needs to be on the solo character's merits mostly alone on how they are Judged. In that, showing the positives in such a Defeat for Brianne and why her character become better from it in hoping others see that as well and that her character has merits to grow better from it.

Also, 118 was a GIANT Gift Towards Brianne cause it IMO it redeemed allot of the questions I and other fans had about her ideals of Love and it showed they are real in their own unique ways. The Power mainly being that of their People and their Love for their Champions, their Universe and Goddess, that they fight FOR them, that is real love in its on special way and Showed Brianne as a Lady with Massive Responsibilities on her Shoulders as their champion, something new to many characters in the DB Mythos. It really touched my heart as a fan and honestly we may not have gotten that if not for the 18 and 17 battle.

So Bigger good can come from a Lose, storytelling is a pretty amazing thing when done in a Clever way like that.

These are some of the messages I want to get across about Brianne and why character battles, one over another, does not benefit, it just jades us from seeing the Merits in other characters and the Views of Fans of those characters, for me, giving Merits to Brianne means Remember to honor others fandoms as well like I would like to be honored in the same way.





But onto the Characters being Promoted over other charcters thing;

Over the Years I have learned from friends, espically in debates on Marvel Comic Characters, to call such views on one character getting pushed down to promote another character to look good as Foil or what I call Foilism - The main definition meaning "To Prevent to from Succeeding."

But that takes allot of evidence to prove and why a worry can be their, it is harder to prove and why one should rethink in engaging in debate over it.

Here is what I think the longterm truth might be on these characters in Super might be.

While I do think Toei did nerf allot of characters lately, I think it was overall done to not have to many overpowering characters near the end and done for important reasons for the benfit of the characters in the future arc. You should only have around half a handful of characters on Goku and Jiren's overpowered levels at a time, otherwise the uniqueness of that level becomes less unique. I think with this they wanted to save allot of developmental Story for characters like Brianne, Sanka Ku, Su Roas, Cabba, Kale and Caulifla to leave them room to grow, to train, the learn, to have to so more development while doing with other member of U7, forming bonds and personall connections.

118 is a Gem that I keep analyzing and in that we saw and heard both U2 saying the U7 where great warriors of love, maybe the highest complement U2 can give of an opponent while Androids 17 and 18 made claim their faiths in the ToP keep being connected to U2 and by the end when U2 was erased 18 gave them honor by saying their where true to themselves right until the end and in the end threw everything they where COOL with 17 agreeing.

IMO these little moments are the Elephants in the story that are important, the fact that Toei seems to be hinting at Future relationships between U7 and other Universe;

* Vegeta with Cabba as well as the U6 Saiyans
* Goku with Kale and Caulifla
* Piccolo and Gohan with Saonel and Pirina as well as the U6 Namekians
* Brianne and U2 with Androids 17, 18 and Krillian over their combat in the ToP and showings of True Love.

I believe Piccolo has already shown great character and honor, allot thanks to 118 and if he goes or not I will as a Fan of His be proud of what he has connected to in the ToP, mostly Gohan, Saonel, Pirina and the U6 Namekians. Greatness in not just gained by how many wins you have, but more importantly how ones character develops and becomes better on a personal level.

Same goes with all the characters I mention and how by being connected Uniquely to one another how their shared faith will help keep them all in the Limelight and develop with each other now more as Friends then Opponents cause in the end they are all Good Guys, they just need not have a ToP mask that anymore.

As a Fan of Brianne's, if this does become so, I am Greatly Looking forward to The Androids 17, 18 and Krillain and maybe even their daughter Marron having a special connection with U2, Brianne, Sanka Ku and Su Roas going forward. That is my hope and bigger view of this. I hope other fans of U2, DB and the Android Fans like Lapislettuce would enjoy this too.

You are probably the most positive person in the entire Dragon Ball fanbase. Congratulations.

Other people may disagree, but I would like to see U2 back as well. When they are written well, they have shown they can be quite enjoyable. Even if they don't appear in major arcs, I would definitely enjoy seeing them in future fillers at least, they could do some entertaining stuff with them. And if/when they do come back, I hope it's not just the Kamikaze Fireballs, I do hope they bring some of their teammates with them, because I definitely wouldn't mind seeing Jimeze and Vikal again(I don't think I can die happily until I see Vikal in a proper fight scene, her design is so good).

Anyways, outside of U6, U2 has probably left the biggest impression on me this arc alongside the Trio de Dangers and Katopesla.

Indeed Thanks Allot Big Chief, I think after episode 118 with how they seem to be connecting the universes now to members of U7, in this case Androids 17 and 18, their is a likelihood this might be so. I think they will be back in one way or another, that is why I was not to sad in seeing them go, I have seen SO many deaths and resurrections in Comics and Anime it just par-for-the-course now, DB being one of the main ideals of those comebacks.

But I do hope too that while the Brianne, Sanka Ku and Su Roas are ones most likely to have the developmental time, I do hope the other characters like Jimeze, Vikal, Zarbuto, Zirloin and others will be apart of any future stories and developments. They have the possibilities their, espically withe the Tuffles and Yardrats being apart of U2 and the mystery behind that.

Only time will tell, but IMO it is better to have cautious optimistic hope with their being possibilities their, but what happens-Happens.

[Venus]

I have to say, I'm quite sad that Katopesla is going out this week, such a funny and cool character, makes me seriously hope that the universes get restored at the end of the ToP.

U3 is quite interesting, I'm not a fan of a robot themed universe to be honest, but they have kinda cool designs, also that scientist from U3, I hope he will be important, didn't someone said before that most of the robots are being controlled by a single fighter? it might be him, I even think he is the creator of the ones who are said to merge in one of the upcoming episode.

[pacz360]

I guess I'm the only one that's hype for U3 episode...

I'm hyped, I really hop the theory of the androids getting controlled comes to fruition; though I would question how that happens considering they're not really mechanically androids...

Where that Theory came from?

[CJStriker_CBR]

your are indeed a positive member and honestly someone nice to talk to.
hopefully we see more from u2 and they get stronger like our heroes

He sure is. He loves the character but never comes out as annoying. It's cool to have someone like him around.

Thanks allot Pacz360 and FortuneSSJ for that Honor.

Indeed I think while Sadly Brianne and U2 will not be in the Top 10 that me and other thought they would be, in the end they showed they had the character formula and desire to go further with who they where. Brianne wanting to learn more about other forms of love and with Brianne her universe follows her lead so I expect Sanka Ku and Su Roas as well as others will do the same as well as do other unique forms of development to their characters as well..........IF that is where Toei plans to go with them, right not it just seems all teased as a possibility IMO, but it is their.

[Big Chief]

I have to say, I'm quite sad that Katopesla is going out this week, such a funny and cool character, makes me seriously hope that the universes get restored at the end of the ToP.

U3 is quite interesting, I'm not a fan of a robot themed universe to be honest, but they have kinda cool designs, also that scientist from U3, I hope he will be important, didn't someone said before that most of the robots are being controlled by a single fighter? it might be him, I even think he is the creator of the ones who are said to merge in one of the upcoming episode.

It is a damn shame that Katopesla is going out when he has had such an enjoyable run so far. Unless we were somehow mislead. Anyways, I hope we get to see him again in filler episodes if the universes come back.

Paparoni is the one controlling all the robots, which has lead to the theory that he's going to find a way to control the Androids somehow.

[Whatever]

I don't really see that at all. If anything they're finally making his leader role useful with Piccolo out of the way and he'll be around for the final battle against Universe 11.

Are we really still gonna pretend that Gohan's leadership role is gonna amount to anything?Other than catering to Gohan fans at the least.
All this leadership stuff went out of the window when Goku was the first to ignore him,when Gohan disolved the 'friendship' circle and when Piccolo and Freeza saved him from elimination.

[precita]

Katopesia is just another running gag character now that Ribrianne is gone. I mean what are people expecting? He approached Freeza, got beat up by 17, beat up by Vegeta, etc.

He's just a gag character. Better he goes out now rather than overstaying his welcome. I don't get why people get so attached to characters who are clearly meant to be gags rather than "amount to something."

[Big Chief]

Katopesia is just another running gag character now that Ribrianne is gone. I mean what are people expecting? He approached Freeza, got beat up by 17, beat up by Vegeta, etc.

He's just a gag character. Better he goes out now rather than overstaying his welcome. I don't get why people get so attached to characters who are clearly meant to be gags rather than "amount to something."

I don't think he was going to amount to something substantial. But I do wish he was there for the final battle with U3, him being there would make it so much more entertaining.

[Kanassa]

I guess I'm the only one that's hype for U3 episode...

I'm hyped, I really hop the theory of the androids getting controlled comes to fruition; though I would question how that happens considering they're not really mechanically androids...

Where that Theory came from?

Basically, a while back the TOEI site released some small sentences about a lot of the characters in the tournament, with Papironi it highlighted the fact that he controlled and commanded machines through something something waves in his cane. Form this, people pondered if it would be possible for him to use this to control the Androids. And with recent spoilers, it could be the case, though the Androids bowing isn't that much evidence.

[pacz360]

Katopesia is just another running gag character now that Ribrianne is gone. I mean what are people expecting? He approached Freeza, got beat up by 17, beat up by Vegeta, etc.

He's just a gag character. Better he goes out now rather than overstaying his welcome. I don't get why people get so attached to characters who are clearly meant to be gags rather than "amount to something."

Cause if the character entertaining and funny of course people would want to see more of them and be more of than gags

[pacz360]

I have to say, I'm quite sad that Katopesla is going out this week, such a funny and cool character, makes me seriously hope that the universes get restored at the end of the ToP.

U3 is quite interesting, I'm not a fan of a robot themed universe to be honest, but they have kinda cool designs, also that scientist from U3, I hope he will be important, didn't someone said before that most of the robots are being controlled by a single fighter? it might be him, I even think he is the creator of the ones who are said to merge in one of the upcoming episode.

It is a damn shame that Katopesla is going out when he has had such an enjoyable run so far. Unless we were somehow mislead. Anyways, I hope we get to see him again in filler episodes if the universes come back.

Paparoni is the one controlling all the robots, which has lead to the theory that he's going to find a way to control the Androids somehow.

Same I hope the u3 fused robot can make up for it