Season Four set arrives 2/19/2008

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:16 pm

Arcwave wrote:Hm, that Trunks/Bardock feature does sound tempting. They better have an option for playable Japanese score audio w/ English voice cast. I'd be pissed if that doesn't happen...

Also, what is this deal about FUNimation and movie 1? Why wouldn't they be able to put that in a new re-mastered boxset? And that set better have a Japanese score audio/English voice option, too.

I do hope the double feature has the Japanese music on there. That would make it worth buying.

Kula · Post by **Kula** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:17 pm

Bomber Greek wrote:Somebody, please show me some information of this "movie box set" you all speak of. I am very curious about this.

We don't know for sure at this point. We're assuming that there will be a movie box because FUNI used movie footage in their trailers.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:58 pm

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:15 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:A movie boxset would be absolutely awesome. That's something I've been hoping they'd do forever. They should also throw the two TV specials in with the lot for the hell of it.

I'm well aware it'll never happen, but my dream set would be if they included all the Dragon Ball and DBZ movies, the two Z TV specials, and the GT special all in one giant "Dragon Ball misc." box set. Kinda like the Lupin movie sets.

i see them doing movie boxes, maybe doing 3 at a time.

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:22 am

Raki wrote:
Kunzait_83 wrote:A movie boxset would be absolutely awesome. That's something I've been hoping they'd do forever. They should also throw the two TV specials in with the lot for the hell of it.

I'm well aware it'll never happen, but my dream set would be if they included all the Dragon Ball and DBZ movies, the two Z TV specials, and the GT special all in one giant "Dragon Ball misc." box set. Kinda like the Lupin movie sets.
i see them doing movie boxes, maybe doing 3 at a time.

Well, they could put ALL the Dragon Ball & Z movies on one set and it'd still be about the size of one of their Season Sets. Heck, throw on the 3 TV Specials and it's only a little longer than Season One, I think.

xzero · Post by **xzero** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:06 am

Regarding a Movie boxset, I recall reading somewhere that what we were getting on the 4:3 releases was actually more video than Japan received. To the best of my recollection, they cropped the movies in Japan, but we received the original versions, thus explaining why our movies came out in the 4:3 ratio.

I read that several years ago (I think it was on the now pseudo-defunct DBZ Otaku Alliance site), so I may not be right about that.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:08 am

xzero wrote:Regarding a Movie boxset, I recall reading somewhere that what we were getting on the 4:3 releases was actually more video than Japan received. To the best of my recollection, they cropped the movies in Japan, but we received the original versions, thus explaining why our movies came out in the 4:3 ratio.

I read that several years ago (I think it was on the now pseudo-defunct DBZ Otaku Alliance site), so I may not be right about that.

Well, yes and no.

The movies were animated on cels that were roughly a 4:3 ratio, however they were animated with the intention of being letterboxed/cropped. That's why when you watch the movies you will occasionally see the edges of incomplete cels and so on (example: in DBZ Movie 3, Gohan's Masenko isn't fully animated at the uppermost portion of the screen).

It just goes to show you how funny the North American release is. We get the series cropped to 16:9 and the movies in 4:3, the exact opposite of their intended form. It's bizzaro Dragonball! ;p

-Corey

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:11 am

I gotta wait that long just so I can get the crappy Garlic Jr saga?

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:34 am

lol I have the whole series on regular DVDs. If you pop it into an HDTV, make the colors cold, take away the sharpness, and zoom it in (it stretches the whole picture so the sides reach the end of the TV and the top and bottom get cropped), there you go, that's the "Remastered" DBZ lol Looks exactly the same. Except of course, that tiny little unnoticeable portion of video on the sides.

russ869 · Post by **russ869** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:23 pm

Probably true.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:18 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Either way, at least the movies were MEANT to be cropped. Can't end up THAT bad.

Blurrified loss of animation detail, poppings of film tears/peppers/etc. from the obviously inferior film prints, merging film frames every here-or-there from FUNi having it run through VP&T's machines, and probably more footage cropped than the Dragonbox does. Seriously, such releases will be screwed, as long as we have cool folks like Corey or Tanooki doing the comparisons, we'll know the truth. Hell, I won't be the least bit surprised if FUNi's 4:3 releases are superior to any potential new DVDs.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:09 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:. Hell, I won't be the least bit surprised if FUNi's 4:3 releases are superior to any potential new DVDs.

That's why I'm getting the current 4:3 releases before anything like that happens.

My only problem is finding the uncut, dual audio versions of movies that aren't in boxsets, excluding movie 4, 5, and 6. Since Funimation really oversaturated the market with edited and uncut dvds back then. So now there's really no way of telling if you're going to get an edited version or and uncut version, since a lot of people online don't know or care.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:33 pm

Vekurotto wrote:My only problem is finding the uncut, dual audio versions of movies that aren't in boxsets, excluding movie 4, 5, and 6. Since Funimation really oversaturated the market with edited and uncut dvds back then. So now there's really no way of telling if you're going to get an edited version or and uncut version, since a lot of people online don't know or care.

Didn't FUNi make a habit of pasting "UNCUT! LOOK AT US! EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT, BUT WE PUT IT IN BIG FUCK OFF FONT ON OUR RELEASES!"-splashes on their releases? Besides, you could have a prospective seller give you the SKU from the disc and look it up on Amazon or somewhere.

-Corey

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:51 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Vekurotto wrote:My only problem is finding the uncut, dual audio versions of movies that aren't in boxsets, excluding movie 4, 5, and 6. Since Funimation really oversaturated the market with edited and uncut dvds back then. So now there's really no way of telling if you're going to get an edited version or and uncut version, since a lot of people online don't know or care.
Didn't FUNi make a habit of pasting "UNCUT! LOOK AT US! EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT, BUT WE PUT IT IN BIG FUCK OFF FONT ON OUR RELEASES!"-splashes on their releases? Besides, you could have a prospective seller give you the SKU from the disc and look it up on Amazon or somewhere.

-Corey

I can confirm this, I own a crap-ton of DBZ DVDs and all of them have huge symbols with the huge uncut text. Believe me you'll know if you’re getting uncut DVDs.

Vekurotto · Post by **Vekurotto** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:02 pm

Oh yeah, I know that, but I've met some people who just wanted to make a quick buck and got I sold an edited Movie 8 despite the description being uncut.

Post by **TripleRach** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:03 pm

If you're buying it from a store in person, then it's very easy to tell. But online stores are a lot harder to distinguish, since they tend to use the same product image for both, and frequently leave out information in the titles or descriptions. The best way to tell in those cases is the MSRP; the uncut versions were $24.95, while the edited ones were $19.95.

But if you're buying them second hand, it's even harder. Lots of eBay sellers use stock images and short copy-pasted descriptions instead of actual photographs and personal descriptions, and I could very easily see a clueless Amazon seller listing the edited version under the uncut page, or vice versa.

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:30 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Vekurotto wrote:My only problem is finding the uncut, dual audio versions of movies that aren't in boxsets, excluding movie 4, 5, and 6. Since Funimation really oversaturated the market with edited and uncut dvds back then. So now there's really no way of telling if you're going to get an edited version or and uncut version, since a lot of people online don't know or care.
Didn't FUNi make a habit of pasting "UNCUT! LOOK AT US! EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT, BUT WE PUT IT IN BIG FUCK OFF FONT ON OUR RELEASES!"-splashes on their releases? Besides, you could have a prospective seller give you the SKU from the disc and look it up on Amazon or somewhere.

I _rarely_ do this, ... but... in FUNI's defense, they did put out cut and uncut version of the episodes on VHS at the time, correct? I imagine this was to offset any confusion there might be on a cut/uncut DVD (which they never had uncut DVD, but you get my point). Once they started putting it on there, I imagine it was just set on there in a cookie-cutter format.

xzero · Post by **xzero** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:28 pm

When buying through Ebay, you should request a picture of both the case and the disc itself. As far as I know, most if not all of the episode DVDs themselves were released solely uncut. The movies were released in both formats, but the disc itself always specifies somewhere which version you're getting (Movies 5 and 8 I can attest to firsthand; I have to assume the others are the same way). If the seller won't provide a picture, don't buy.

As for buying at stores, I work for GameStop. We check discs for scratches and whatnot, but our DVD database is a bit limited insofar as we don't have a listing for every version of every DBZ DVD (in fact, FMA dvds all fall under the same product code). Since we sell DVDs without their original boxes, it's always best to ask before buying.

In sum, if you're not sure, ask. Then, if they lie to you, you can say that they misrepresented the item and you are justified in asking for a refund.[/quote]

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:54 pm

ect5150 wrote:I _rarely_ do this, ... but... in FUNI's defense, they did put out cut and uncut version of the episodes on VHS at the time, correct? I imagine this was to offset any confusion there might be on a cut/uncut DVD (which they never had uncut DVD, but you get my point). Once they started putting it on there, I imagine it was just set on there in a cookie-cutter format.

That was the funny part, actually. The VHS tapes merely said "(Uncut)" beneath the title and had a different image formed by the sides of the cases, whereas the episode DVD's after Ginyu had the obnoxious splash that said "UNCUT VERSION! INCLUDES UNCUT ENGLISH AND JAPANESE VERSIONS!" or something to that degree. Funny thing is, in the case of the episode DVD's, there were no edited counterparts that they needed to distinguish the releases from, so the extra emphasis on "HAY UNCUT LAWL" for the DVD's was always odd to me.

Anyway, SKU's are the way to go. If a retailer gives you one SKU for an uncut, then sends an edited, it's called fraud. It's very, very serious. Trust me, I've gotten people in deep shit over it (hint: document everything, or in this case save their emails, and if they send a different product call your credit card company and file a claim. They'll eagerly take it from there).

-Corey

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:14 am

Well recently (because yeah I wanted the 4:3), I got the Frieza, Cell Games, Great Saiyaman, and etc uncut off Ebay for VERY good prices. If you don't like that, just go to bestbuy.com. They have decent prices and there, you know what you're getting. There are very FEW edited products from FUNimation. Movies 4, 5, 6 are edited, but on bestbuy.com, they tell you the difference. You can order straight from them for delivery. That's what I did with the Cell Games.