"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Simere]

Looking at these comments, and I think we may just end up having a Resurrection F scenario all over again. When leaks come out and expectations are so ridiculously high, as well as people completely making up their mind of being so sure of themselves, and then raging/being disappointed when it doesn't happen. "I am the King of Saiyans" anybody?

I am the King of Saiyans?

[precita]

Where is all this sudden speculation for Vegeta coming from anyway? He's probably just going to get knocked out similar to Piccolo/Krillin/Tien without much fanfare.

[Michsi]

Where is all this sudden speculation for Vegeta coming from anyway? He's probably just going to get knocked out similar to Piccolo/Krillin/Tien without much fanfare.

This is Vegeta we're talking about, second most popular character of the franchise, and as far as I understood, really loved by Toyotaro. They're probably going to give him as much fanfare as possible, just not as much as Goku.

[precita]

He'll get a big episode of course, but he'll still be knocked out by Jiren (or Toppo?) just the same. I don't expect a beat down either, probably something that blasts him out of the ring.

[MisteryOne]

I wonder what the Jump Festa announcement is. According to some people it isn't the announcement of a new arc.

Where is all this sudden speculation for Vegeta coming from anyway? He's probably just going to get knocked out similar to Piccolo/Krillin/Tien without much fanfare.

This is Vegeta we're talking about, second most popular character of the franchise, and as far as I understood, really loved by Toyotaro. They're probably going to give him as much fanfare as possible, just not as much as Goku.

Wait, what? Why?

[Michsi]

I wonder what the Jump Festa announcement is. According to some people it isn't the announcement of a new arc.

Where is all this sudden speculation for Vegeta coming from anyway? He's probably just going to get knocked out similar to Piccolo/Krillin/Tien without much fanfare.

This is Vegeta we're talking about, second most popular character of the franchise, and as far as I understood, really loved by Toyotaro. They're probably going to give him as much fanfare as possible, just not as much as Goku.

Wait, what? Why?

As far as I understood, but I have no definitive proof, so take it with several grains of salt. He seems to get a way better treatment in the manga but I don't know if this is bias that makes some people see favoritism. I haven't seen his fan work, and I wonder how Vegeta was featured in that.

[sintzu]

I'm pretty sure 123 is about vegeta I'm just going to ignore the haters.

Fingers crossed. As much as it would make sense for it to be about Vegeta, there's still a good chance it's Goku cause god knows he hasn't gotten enough screentime already so you shouldn't get your hopes too high.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

I'm pretty sure 123 is about vegeta I'm just going to ignore the haters.

Fingers crossed. As much as it would make sense for it to be about Vegeta, there's still a good chance it's Goku cause god knows he hasn't gotten enough screentime already so you shouldn't get your hopes too high.

Yeah I know.

[TheUltimateNinja]

His stamina needs to be shown off why? He's only fought 2 guys and he beat them easily. Also Goku only beat namek freeza with his own power. Since then he has needed other people's power/ outside divine intervention to beat anyone.

Quit vs Cell and relied on 10 year old son
Needed spirit bomb to beat kid buu who he bragged he could beat as a ssj3
beerus spared him
whis had to rewind time vs frieza
hit jumped off the stage instead of one shotting monaka
zeno button for zamasu

While Yes Vegeta has not beaten a main villain, goku has basically been useless in that area since namek by himself

But he always plays a crucial role in the villain's defeat, unlike Vegeta who frequently makes things worse by being there.

How is goku any better

Without Goku, there'd be no SSJ to beat Freeza, no SSJ2 Gohan to beat Cell, no Genki Dama to beat Buu.

Vegeta on the other hand, let Cell become perfect, then caused Gohan to lose an arm against Cell and nearly doomed the world. Sure, he distracted Cell later on, but that wouldn't be necessary in the first place if Gohan was at full power.

It's the same against Buu, he intentionally falls under Babidi's spell and releases Buu which jeopardizes the entire universe.

[Professor Freeza]

But he always plays a crucial role in the villain's defeat, unlike Vegeta who frequently makes things worse by being there.

How is goku any better

Without Goku, there'd be no SSJ to beat Freeza, no SSJ2 Gohan to beat Cell, no Genki Dama to beat Buu.

Vegeta on the other hand, let Cell become perfect, then caused Gohan to lose an arm against Cell and nearly doomed the world. Sure, he distracted Cell later on, but that wouldn't be necessary in the first place if Gohan was at full power.

It's the same against Buu, he intentionally falls under Babidi's spell and releases Buu which jeopardizes the entire universe.

Inb4 someone says he fucked up against a Resurrected Freeza too..

He didnt

[TheUltimateNinja]

How is goku any better

Without Goku, there'd be no SSJ to beat Freeza, no SSJ2 Gohan to beat Cell, no Genki Dama to beat Buu.

Vegeta on the other hand, let Cell become perfect, then caused Gohan to lose an arm against Cell and nearly doomed the world. Sure, he distracted Cell later on, but that wouldn't be necessary in the first place if Gohan was at full power.

It's the same against Buu, he intentionally falls under Babidi's spell and releases Buu which jeopardizes the entire universe.

Inb4 someone says he fucked up against a Resurrected Freeza too..

He didnt

They both messed up. The difference is Goku was showing mercy to Frieza whereas Vegeta was just trying to humiliate him.

[sintzu]

Yeah I know.

Regardless of what the anime does, the manga will give Vegeta more than what any of us are expecting like it did in Black's arc and at the start of the current one. I'm pretty sure Vegeta in the manga will get at least 2 major fights before fighting Jerin and when he does eventually fight him it won't end how we're afraid it will in the anime.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I wonder if any guide will ever even attempt to explain how strong the characters are supposed to be.

[Professor Freeza]

Without Goku, there'd be no SSJ to beat Freeza, no SSJ2 Gohan to beat Cell, no Genki Dama to beat Buu.

Vegeta on the other hand, let Cell become perfect, then caused Gohan to lose an arm against Cell and nearly doomed the world. Sure, he distracted Cell later on, but that wouldn't be necessary in the first place if Gohan was at full power.

It's the same against Buu, he intentionally falls under Babidi's spell and releases Buu which jeopardizes the entire universe.

Inb4 someone says he fucked up against a Resurrected Freeza too..

He didnt

They both messed up. The difference is Goku was showing mercy to Frieza whereas Vegeta was just trying to humiliate him.

Vegeta was one move away from finishing him. Even Goku would have fallen for that.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Inb4 someone says he fucked up against a Resurrected Freeza too..

He didnt

They both messed up. The difference is Goku was showing mercy to Frieza whereas Vegeta was just trying to humiliate him.

Vegeta was one move away from finishing him. Even Goku would have fallen for that.

Vegeta could have blown him up in an instant like he did to Cui and Dodoria, he drew it out for no reason.

[Professor Freeza]

They both messed up. The difference is Goku was showing mercy to Frieza whereas Vegeta was just trying to humiliate him.

Vegeta was one move away from finishing him. Even Goku would have fallen for that.

Vegeta could have blown him up in an instant like he did to Cui and Dodoria, he drew it out for no reason.

Everyone does that. Future trunks to freeza. Gohan to perfect cell. Gohan to buu. Gotenks to buu. Vegito to Zamasu.

Goku didn't even try to beat fat buu even when he could have done it.

No point in singling out Vegeta tbh

[TheUltimateNinja]

Vegeta was one move away from finishing him. Even Goku would have fallen for that.

Vegeta could have blown him up in an instant like he did to Cui and Dodoria, he drew it out for no reason.

Everyone does that. Future trunks to freeza. Gohan to perfect cell. Gohan to buu. Gotenks to buu. Vegito to Zamasu.

Goku didn't even try to beat fat buu even when he could have done it.

No point in singling out Vegeta tbh

The difference is that none of those guys got killed by the enemy except for Gotenks.

[Professor Freeza]

Vegeta could have blown him up in an instant like he did to Cui and Dodoria, he drew it out for no reason.

Everyone does that. Future trunks to freeza. Gohan to perfect cell. Gohan to buu. Gotenks to buu. Vegito to Zamasu.

Goku didn't even try to beat fat buu even when he could have done it.

No point in singling out Vegeta tbh

The difference is that none of those guys got killed by the enemy except for Gotenks.

The actual difference is that except SSj2 Gohan and Future Trunks, all of them lost. They couldnt finish the job.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Everyone does that. Future trunks to freeza. Gohan to perfect cell. Gohan to buu. Gotenks to buu. Vegito to Zamasu.

Goku didn't even try to beat fat buu even when he could have done it.

No point in singling out Vegeta tbh

The difference is that none of those guys got killed by the enemy except for Gotenks.

The actual difference is that except SSj2 Gohan and Future Trunks, all of them lost. They couldnt finish the job.

But they lived on to fight another day. Though now that I think about it Gohan died too.

[sintzu]

But they lived on to fight another day.

Vegeta was dead for less than a minute, can't you just let it slide ? For all we know he was in space holding his breath so maybe he didn't die after all.

Regardless, dying was a small price to pay to see him finally force Freeza to bow down to his Vegetaness.