Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[sintzu]

Is it going to have Goku and Vegeta and all the others in it and be set in current time....but then look back into the Origins?

I can't see a DB movie of this size, both in terms of production and story not involving them, especially Goku. What I think might happen is there'll be some evil and through him they'll find out about their history and maybe a way to defeat him. He could be someone who fought Yamoshi in the past.

[HeroR]

We know he redesigns what he doesn't like or if it doesn't fit with his ideas, and I think he actually corrected all of those designs at least a little . Celipa's body type is that of a typical DB female (and they were on the sturdier side back then) but her initial concept art had her looking softer, with with blond cone shaped hair and a cuter face I think. He changed that.

He only really corrected Bardock and Celipa. Even then, the fact remains that those Saiyans weren't not originally design by Toriyama. They were Toei who made the Saiyans with the 'caveman' design.

[Lord Beerus]

Hmm. I'm not sure how to feel about this.

On one hand, I'm very happy about the idea of the lore of Dragon Ball being the main focus of story. Especially considering this is lore that has a bottomless amount of potential to it. And if it manages to cover Saiyans in Universe 6, that would even more special.

On the other hand, I can't imagine being as entertained with this movie knowing that there is chance, give the premise of the movie, that Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and the rest of gang could very likely not appear, or at the most, have quite limited screentime. I'd be quite shocked and disappointed if those guys didn't spend a good portion of the movie as a focal point, especially for a project of this magnitude.

One thing is for sure... they're taking their sweet time with this movie, which is a very good thing and hopefully will mean that the finial product will be consistently visually good. I also hope this movie get an even wider release that Resurrection F. The potential for this movie to do bank intentionally in the palm of Toei and Disney's if it's marketed properly.

I'm casually optimistic right now. But I could certainly do with a bit more detail about this movie before I get my hopes up.

[sintzu]

I'm casually optimistic right now. But I could certainly do with a bit more detail about this movie before I get my hopes up.

The biggest issue now is the huge lack of information. The only thing we really know of is how much effort is going into its production so from that point of view it'll be visually amazing.

We probably won't know anything major about it till March or April.

The fact remains that those Saiyans weren't not originally design by Toriyama. They were Toei who made the Saiyans with the 'caveman' design.

Bardock was mentioned by Raditz to look like Goku so although he didn't show him in the manga before the special was out, he clearly had an image of him in his head which is probably what they based him off before Toriyama fixed it.

[HeroR]

I'm casually optimistic right now. But I could certainly do with a bit more detail about this movie before I get my hopes up.

The biggest issue now is the huge lack of information. The only thing we really know of is how much effort is going into its production so from that point of view it'll be visually amazing.

We probably won't know anything major about it till March or April.

The fact remains that those Saiyans weren't not originally design by Toriyama. They were Toei who made the Saiyans with the 'caveman' design.

Bardock was mentioned by Raditz to look like Goku so although he didn't show him in the manga before the special was out, he clearly had an image of him in his head which is probably what they based him off before Toriyama fixed it.

Was that in the original Japanese version?

[Cipher]

I think Toriyama could churn out quite a fun, character-focused story, maybe about Yamoahi the good-hearted Saiyan dealing with some sort of threat, within the confines of a prequel setting if it's completely removed from Goku and co. and there are no stabs at connections across time, etc., or only very minimal ones. Something akin to Jaco, which I love.

[Bullza]

Is it going to have Goku and Vegeta and all the others in it and be set in current time....but then look back into the Origins?

I can't see a DB movie of this size, both in terms of production and story not involving them, especially Goku. What I think might happen is there'll be some evil and through him they'll find out about their history and maybe a way to defeat him. He could be someone who fought Yamoshi in the past.

Yeah I would like to think that's the case, otherwise it would be a TV special or something.

These movies actually cost millions to make and the last two were successful. I can't see them being foolish enough to make a movie of this size, with Toriyama involved and then not have the main ones in it which would cost the movie many millions at the box office.

Maybe even Yamoshi himself could be the movies villain. I had that idea back when Resurrection F came out.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

Really hoping they show and explain how vegeta family become royalty out of that whole race in general.

[sintzu]

I think Toriyama could churn out quite a fun, character-focused story, maybe about Yamoahi the good-hearted Saiyan dealing with some sort of threat, within the confines of a prequel setting if it's completely removed from Goku and co. and there are no stabs at connections across time, etc., or only very minimal ones. Something akin to Jaco, which I love.

That'd be a flop and franchise killer if I ever saw one.

Maybe even Yamoshi himself could be the movies villain. I had that idea back when Resurrection F came out.

Him being good compared to saiyan standerds back then doesn't mean he's actually good so anything's possible. I do hope it doesn't involve bringing someone back as that's what RF was about.

Really hoping they show and explain how vegeta family become royalty out of that whole race in general.

I'd be surprised if this doesn't come up and if Vegeta doesn't play a very major role in it.

[Majin Jator]

I'll be honest, the premise of this movie doesn't appeal to me at all. Legends and history spice up the story when they are left vague and mysterious, once you explain every detail the "magic" is lost, and you just have an -usually- mediocre story without the characters you're really interested into. DB lore is just serviceable at best, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Having said that, is a DB movie scripted by Toriyama, so obviously I'll be watching, and I've moderate expectations about how entertaining it will be.

BTW, kudos to the dragonball room for finding a way to market more saiyans.

[sintzu]

BTW, kudos to the dragonball room for finding a way to market more saiyans.

Saiyans from the past, saiyans from an alternate universe, kais taking over saiyan bodies, etc.

Heroes' staff must be happy as each Saiyan is worth 10 or so cards.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

I think Toriyama could churn out quite a fun, character-focused story, maybe about Yamoahi the good-hearted Saiyan dealing with some sort of threat, within the confines of a prequel setting if it's completely removed from Goku and co. and there are no stabs at connections across time, etc., or only very minimal ones. Something akin to Jaco, which I love.

That'd be a flop and franchise killer if I ever saw one.

Maybe even Yamoshi himself could be the movies villain. I had that idea back when Resurrection F came out.

Him being good compared to saiyan standerds back then doesn't mean he's actually good so anything's possible. I do hope it doesn't involve bringing someone back as that's what RF was about.

Really hoping they show and explain how vegeta family become royalty out of that whole race in general.

I'd be surprised if this doesn't come up and if Vegeta doesn't play a very major role in it.

Yeah agree.

[Lord Frieza]

Awesome news.

Going from what little we know I’m going to say This film will likely going to be taking place in the history of universe 7. Vegeta cannot go to U6 and tell all the good saiyans the story as he himself knows nothing Super Saiyans God’s origin (which according to both its backstories in BoG and Super is a legend lost to time). So unless Vegeta feels like being a historian and asking Shenron it’s going to be hard to work the heroes into a story they know little about and currently have shown no intreast in learning.

Also Super Saiyans never arouse in U6 befor Cabba as far as we know. Aside from saying “these events never occurred in Universe 6” they have little to add to the story either.

I personally hope this is the case also because if done well we can Father of Goku and History of Trunks type story on our hands and in full movie form.

[Kanassa]

"this film is being diligently produced with the goal of having the greatest scale and quality of the series to date!"

This alone is enough to not only get me excited but to ensure that it's the best movie in the franchise.

Isn't this what every advertiser says about their product leading up to release?

[sintzu]

As good as this movie is probably going to be, I wish we were getting a completely new concept instead of an old one with a differnt color as everything new has heavily revolved around the Saiyans or Freeza in one way or another. In the manga they were just one part of a bigger picture, not the entire picture like they are now which is making DB seem smaller than it is so hopefully we'll get something completely new in Super's next arc.

Isn't this what every advertiser says about their product leading up to release?

Yeah but when you look at how good the previous 2 were and how good one piece's movies are, this holds more weight than it does with something completely new.

[Michsi]

We know he redesigns what he doesn't like or if it doesn't fit with his ideas, and I think he actually corrected all of those designs at least a little . Celipa's body type is that of a typical DB female (and they were on the sturdier side back then) but her initial concept art had her looking softer, with with blond cone shaped hair and a cuter face I think. He changed that.

He only really corrected Bardock and Celipa. Even then, the fact remains that those Saiyans weren't not originally design by Toriyama. They were Toei who made the Saiyans with the 'caveman' design.

Because of Nappa and Radditz. And if he didn't correct the others it means their designs were congruent with his idea of the saiyan image. Saying it doesn't count because their outline didn't come 100% from his own pen nib is a little fastidious if you ask me.

[sintzu]

Saying it doesn't count because their outline didn't come 100% from his own pen nib is a little fastidious if you ask me.

We know he had some help drawing the manga so if we go by that logic then the chapters that weren't 100% from him also don't count.

[HeroR]

Because of Nappa and Radditz. And if he didn't correct the others it means their designs were congruent with his idea of the saiyan image. Saying it doesn't count because their outline didn't come 100% from his own pen nib is a little fastidious if you ask me.

Which is two out of the four Saiyans designs Toriyama made, including Goku. Just because he okay it doesn't mean that is how he personally envision the characters. He sees stuff like movies and special as separate from his own stuff.

[Hawk9211]

As good as this movie is probably going to be, I wish we were getting a completely new concept instead of an old one with a differnt color as everything new has heavily revolved around the Saiyans or Freeza in one way or another. In the manga they were just one part of a bigger picture, not the entire picture like they are now which is making DB seem smaller than it is so hopefully we'll get something completely new in Super's next arc.

Isn't this what every advertiser says about their product leading up to release?

Yeah but when you look at how good the previous 2 were and how good one piece's movies are, this holds more weight than it does with something completely new.

Could not a namekian special/film work better than saiyan one asiide from popularity.They made the dragon balls,they used to have quite advanced tech and their near extinction due to climate changes sounds ridicolous considering they have dragon balls and they themselves have a lot of mystical abilities.However,it appears that they don't care about nameks.
A movie featuring excluded universes sounds good.

[sintzu]

Could not a namekian special/film work better than saiyan one asiide from popularity.They made the dragon balls,they used to have quite advanced tech and their near extinction due to climate changes sounds ridicolous considering they have dragon balls and they themselves have a lot of mystical abilities.However,it appears that they don't care about nameks.
A movie featuring excluded universes sounds good.

I'm not really worried about quality but saturation as we've gotten a lot of saiyan content since the franchise revival.

The namakian story sounds interesting but I think they're just going after what's really popular.

Hit is a great character to expand on. Is he alone or a part of a group of assassin's ? Does each universe have a version of them ? Is he an underling to some master assassin who he answers to ?