Scenes that the Anime did better than the Manga

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:21 pm

Phenomenol wrote:The Anime fights seem to COMPLETE the fights that are hell of short in the Manga. Example...Vegetto vs Super Buu...Goku vs Majin vegeta....etc. I just like the Anime overall, it has what the Manga got AND MORE.

Anime > Manga.

I wouldn't agree with all fights in the anime, case in point SSJ Goku Vs. Freeza. However, you do have a good point. Vegetto Vs. Super Buu was expanded on so magnificently in the anime, the first episode where normal-form Vegetto owns him is just icing on the cake IMO. I also liked the Goku/Tao round 2 and Tien/Drum battles much more in original DB's anime. There're many other good examples, but of course there are also a couple stinkers. Nonetheless, the anime served the manga great justice in its adaptations of Toriyama's battles.

Ambassador Vegeta · Post by **Ambassador Vegeta** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:48 pm

I wouldn't say that the anime is better than the manga. They're both excellent to me. Yeah the manga isn't in color and doesn't move, but it doesn't have pointless fake-Namek filler and the like and is consistently drawn. The anime expands on a lot of cool things, but triangle-crap guy animation can bring a scene to a screeching halt.

Can't we all agree that they're both awesome? I mean it's all Dragonball, right?

Phenomenol · Post by **Phenomenol** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:07 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:I wouldn't agree with all fights in the anime, case in point SSJ Goku Vs. Freeza. However, you do have a good point. Vegetto Vs. Super Buu was expanded on so magnificently in the anime, the first episode where normal-form Vegetto owns him is just icing on the cake IMO. I also liked the Goku/Tao round 2 and Tenshinhan/Drum battles much more in original DB's anime. There're many other good examples, but of course there are also a couple stinkers. Nonetheless, the anime served the manga great justice in its adaptations of Toriyama's battles.

Yep!

Can't we all agree that they're both awesome? I mean it's all Dragonball, right?

Yep, Toriyama said that the Anime and Manga IS Dragonball!! That means both are awesome!!

Lol · Post by **Lol** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:53 pm

Goku VS Majin Vegeta was one of the best things that the anime pulled off. The manga made me feel disappointed. It was a such epic moment, the rematch of the Sayans... And the manga just didn't show much of the fight.

Another thing that I liked was the scene of Goku's first SSJ transformation. Although it does take a lot of time, it is more "exciting" in the anime. In the manga is just "poof"....

Not the point of the topic, but the 5 minutes OF DOOM that last at least 5 episodes is something really strange and boring... Those damn 5 minutes just don't pass.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:05 pm

Humpski wrote:My Fiance and I have been watching DBZ. For her it's the first time. She loved the Saiyan saga but now we're at the Freeza fight and I think she's losing interest. Can't say I blame her. It's frustratingly slow going...

My girlfriend was the same way. She was nearly beating her head against the wall near the end of it. I've promised her that from here on out, there's only one fight that even approaches that length (Cell Games). She was pleased.

ssorcd · Post by **ssorcd** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:18 am

Thanos6 wrote:
Humpski wrote:My Fiance and I have been watching DBZ. For her it's the first time. She loved the Saiyan saga but now we're at the Freeza fight and I think she's losing interest. Can't say I blame her. It's frustratingly slow going...
My girlfriend was the same way. She was nearly beating her head against the wall near the end of it. I've promised her that from here on out, there's only one fight that even approaches that length (Cell Games). She was pleased.

Except for the fact that the Majin Boring saga goes on for about 200 episodes too long.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:58 am

Am I the only erson who found Majin Vegeta Vs Goku to be annoying and pointless and really just a means of satisfying the Goku and Vegeta should figh again demands?
Honestly, I must have like, accidentally eaten something strange to put so many Goku / Vegeta fights in my fics... WTF is wrong with me?

*ahem*. Yes. Umm. Spirit Vs Spirit is awesome.

Phenomenol · Post by **Phenomenol** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:26 pm

Goku vs Majin Vegeta was possibly a crowd pleaser but it was a great battle in the anime.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:10 pm

Phenomenol wrote:Goku vs Majin Vegeta was possibly a crowd pleaser but it was a great battle in the anime.

I agree, except when it cut away to Goten and Trunks flying or whatever bullshit at the World Tournament.

Phenomenol · Post by **Phenomenol** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:49 pm

Yeah, I didn't like that back and forth stuff either.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:55 pm

ssorcd wrote:
Thanos6 wrote:
Humpski wrote:My Fiance and I have been watching DBZ. For her it's the first time. She loved the Saiyan saga but now we're at the Freeza fight and I think she's losing interest. Can't say I blame her. It's frustratingly slow going...
My girlfriend was the same way. She was nearly beating her head against the wall near the end of it. I've promised her that from here on out, there's only one fight that even approaches that length (Cell Games). She was pleased.
Except for the fact that the Majin Boring saga goes on for about 200 episodes too long.

But at least that isn't basically one long continuous fight.

And I agree with caejones on the Goku/Majin Vegeta fight. None of the excitement of the original fight.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:33 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Phenomenol wrote:Goku vs Majin Vegeta was possibly a crowd pleaser but it was a great battle in the anime.
I agree, except when it cut away to Goten and Trunks flying or whatever bullshit at the World Tournament.

I thought it was funny though when they were relieving themselves on the rock, especially in the dub.

testing223 · Post by **testing223** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:09 pm

Phenomenol wrote:Goku vs Majin Vegeta was possibly a crowd pleaser but it was a great battle in the anime.

Pity it ended completely ineffectually.

What was Toriyama thinking? The manga is terribly done in this part, too, with no shots like the original battle and just a bunch of over-detailed electrical punches. And THEN it doesn't even end, just Goku saying "wait!"

What a waste the Buu saga was.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:34 pm

I just remembered: the introduction of Yamcha in the first DB movie. Very cool and badass.

DemonKingPiccolo · Post by **DemonKingPiccolo** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:39 am

I actually felt like the Goku/Cell battle was really well done in the anime. I never really got the sense that Goku was trying his hardest in the manga, the anime was totally different.

The Goku/Majin Vegeta fight was pretty cool in the anime, and in one episode the animation is brilliant; but I agree that the battle was completely pointless. It was a crowd-pleaser, nothing more.

I also always liked the Cell/Gohan beam struggle in the anime, and how the rest of the Z fighters actually attempt to join. The manga beam struggle was really boring.

Phenomenol · Post by **Phenomenol** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:42 pm

testing223 wrote:Pity it ended completely ineffectually.

What was Toriyama thinking? The manga is terribly done in this part, too, with no shots like the original battle and just a bunch of over-detailed electrical punches. And THEN it doesn't even end, just Goku saying "wait!"

What a waste the Buu saga was.

Yeah, Toriyama basically rushed through the Buu saga and I guess he knew the fight in the manga wasn't good enough so I guess he had the anime do a much better job (which the anime did).

The fight ended with Majin vegeta KO (cheap shot) Goku in the back to go fight Buu.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:28 pm

Another recent thread concerning the date of the last chapter of the manga leads me to believe Toriyama was interested in being done as quickly as possible near the end. Things like the filler in Buu's innerds, for example, strikes me as something Toriyama might do. . . but left out of the manga.
I would say the Buu saga is supposed to be Toriyama teling us he can do what he wants with his story, but then there's the final battle...

Contra Deus · Post by **Contra Deus** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:05 pm

From what I understand, Toriyama was writing on burn-out during the Buu Saga.

Phenomenol · Post by **Phenomenol** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:39 pm

caejones wrote:Another recent thread concerning the date of the last chapter of the manga leads me to believe Toriyama was interested in being done as quickly as possible near the end. Things like the filler in Buu's innerds, for example, strikes me as something Toriyama might do. . . but left out of the manga.
I would say the Buu saga is supposed to be Toriyama teling us he can do what he wants with his story, but then there's the final battle...

True, the Anime has more scenes in the Buu saga then Toriyama's manga..Maybe Toriyama decided to put more scenes in to make the Buu saga more complete. For example the Vegetto vs. Buu, Majin vegeta vs Goku, The anime ACTUALLY showing the fight with Gotenks and Fat buu instead of going off to get beat off panel like Gotenks did in the manga.

I just use both the manga and anime like Toriyama said.

FindKenshi · Post by **FindKenshi** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:50 pm

Well, it's not really that the scene was "done better", but I thought the scene depicting Goku contacting his son from beyond the grave, before the final clash against Cell, was far more dramatic in the anime. The music was a nice touch. The scene is just as impacting in the manga, but the addition of music and coreography made it seem more "complete" in the anime.

Kanzenshuu

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