"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Zamasu55]

It's implied U3 is erased but nothing about 18 going out.

Then, I really think Jiren will take out everyone from U7.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

A friend of mine wanted me to post this

Reddit is full of brain dead idiots and Kanzenshuu is retard land with VegettoEX being the biggest idiot.

He'd never accept criticism because he's got this god complex going on for creating the "greatest online community known to mankind". He's just a egotistic tyrant with a false boner due to so-called "internet fame.

This is not me saying this all he did is ask me to post it here since I had a account.

[Xeogran]

It's implied U3 is erased but nothing about 18 going out.

Then, I really think Jiren will take out everyone from U7.

They don't need to mention every U7 elimination. It would be awkward as heck for U3 to end with 0 points, even with their secret weapon.

[Totamo]

I don't think Gohan is going to fight Toppo for one simple reason: Toppo will crush him.

Goku getting to take out the 3 strongest fighters will be overkill. Him getting Kafla is bad enough as we already knew he;d get Jerin but Toppo too ? If that's what happens I really hope the manga does some drastic changes with this like it did with the previous arc.

Not really because none of the 3 have any interest in Vegeta . They don't really care about him and he has given them no reason to.



Vegeta is not going to get a big win just because his fans want it, he has to actually do something and earn it. Unfortunately, he has done nothing to do so. It was Goku's idea to start this tournament why Vegeta decided to stay at home, which is a great father moment but a terrible fighter moment. It was Goku who basically taught the saiyan girls and fought them, while Vegeta blew them off. It was Goku who fought Toppo in the exhibition match, not Vegeta. Goku has done all of this because, in universe, Vegeta did not want to.


Even though this is a battle royale, this is still a story and things need to happen for a reason other than I need to beat you. Most of Goku's biggest fights have been that, none of Vegeta's.



The manga may change this but then it won't make all that much sense as like I said, Vegeta needs to give interest and a reason and if some of these moments are in Tori's outline then Toyo will only make Vegeta look like he is only important for fanservice, which is exactly how it felt in the manga's future trunks arc.

[Lapislettuce]

I can't be the only one who's seen an increase of salt thrown in 18 direction as of late? It's just a bit funny how weeks ago people were praising 18 for knocking out Ribrianne and now many people wanna see her get knocked out. I'm curious if this is due in part to her lasting longer than Piccolo. Oh well not like it matters since it is likely she's gone in 121 unless she some how survives 121 and 17 gets knocked out instead.

I don't see any salt. People just think she's the one most likely to get knocked out since she's the weakest of the remaining bunch. Also the least popular.

I'm a goof I should have mentioned that I've seen some salt from places like DB Reddit not necessarily here per say. Also is she really the least popular of the remaining fighters? I mean 17 been pretty great this arc but he's only just returned so I can't see him being more popular than 18, atleast on the Japanese side of the fanbase.

Ever since his return he is the more popular of the two.

[sintzu]

Goku has done all of this because...

Because the writers wanted him to. When Goku gets something(s) there's every excuse known to man that justifies it yet when Vegeta does everyone pulls out the fan service card.

How Vegeta getting Black in the manga is just fan service despite Black killing his wife, trying to kill his son & destroying the timeline he lives in will be something I'll never understand.

It was Goku who fought Toppo in the exhibition match, not Vegeta.

Goku also fought Cell and Freeza yet Gohan and Trunks were the ones who finished them off so that doesn't hold any ground.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

Goku has done all of this because...

Because the writers wanted him to. When Goku gets something(s) there's every excuse none to man that justifies it yet when Vegeta does everyone pulls out the fan service card.

How Vegeta getting Black in the manga is just fan service despite Black killing his wife, trying to kill his son & destroying the timeline he lives in will be something I'll never understand.

It was Goku who fought Toppo in the exhibition match, not Vegeta.

Goku also fought Cell and Freeza yet Gohan and Trunks were the ones who finished them off so that doesn't hold any ground.

Exactly.

[Big Chief]

RIP Dyspo..

[Totamo]

Goku has done all of this because...

Because the writers wanted him to. When Goku gets something(s) there's every excuse known to man that justifies it yet when Vegeta does everyone pulls out the fan service card.

How Vegeta getting Black in the manga is just fan service despite Black killing his wife, trying to kill his son & destroying the timeline he lives in will be something I'll never understand.

It was Goku who fought Toppo in the exhibition match, not Vegeta.

Goku also fought Cell and Freeza yet Gohan and Trunks were the ones who finished them off so that doesn't hold any ground.

Goku was the main reason Gohan won that fight, You know that and in the original timeline, Goku beat him so both points are moot. If Vegeta's victory was even close like both of these, you wouldn't call it a vegeta victory.


And for the black arc because Black took Goku's body, not Vegeta's, it was becuase of Goku why Zamaus even went bad and Goku knew Bulma longer than Vegeta did so that point is moot. not to mention Black is kind of an evil Goku and Goku and they didn't even fight once. Not Once.




It was forced especially when you watch the anime and see it actually happen.

[CriticalThinker]

Whelp can't say I'm surprised by this outcome with Vegeta and Jiren, who knows maybe Vegeta won't get destroyed instantly by Jiren. Nothing on the androids but I'm assuming 18 is out and 17 is still in it. Rip to Dyspo poor guy has to fight Freeza now and I can't see things ending well for him. Also Toppo once again seems to do squat hopefully he gets to fight in 123.

[TheOne]

Goku has done all of this because...

Because the writers wanted him to. When Goku gets something(s) there's every excuse known to man that justifies it yet when Vegeta does everyone pulls out the fan service card.

How Vegeta getting Black in the manga is just fan service despite Black killing his wife, trying to kill his son & destroying the timeline he lives in will be something I'll never understand.

It was Goku who fought Toppo in the exhibition match, not Vegeta.

Goku also fought Cell and Freeza yet Gohan and Trunks were the ones who finished them off so that doesn't hold any ground.

Goku was the main reason Gohan won that fight, You know that and in the original timeline, Goku beat him so both points are moot. If Vegeta's victory was even close like both of these, you wouldn't call it a vegeta victory.


And for the black arc because Black took Goku's body, not Vegeta's, it was becuase of Goku why Zamaus even went bad and Goku knew Bulma longer than Vegeta did so that point is moot. not to mention Black is kind of an evil Goku and Goku and they didn't even fight once. Not Once.




It was forced especially when you watch the anime and see it actually happen.

Did this guy just say that Goku and Black didn’t fight once? Way to completely make yourself lose all credibility and value to anything that comes through your mouth.

There’s absolutely nothing forced about Vegeta fighting and getting an advantage over Black. Especially when this arc involves his son getting tortured and wife getting murdered. Vegeta lost, trained for x amount of months, and was able to get a leg up on Black.

I’ve seen your posts about Vegeta and Vegeta fans. You just need to accept the fact that you’re biased. You can’t even make accurate assessments.

[MajinVegetaPD]

I guarantee you, Vegeta will lose to Jiren, Goku will rematch with Toppo and win then fight him at the end.

If Vegeta does go out I think it's more likely for Gohan to fight Toppo as Goku doing so will drain him and he won't have enough power to fight Jerin. In terms of Vegeta's fight, there's nothing about him winning, losing or getting away but regardless of what happens I hope he puts in a good one as he hasn't done anything major yet.

I'm pretty vegeta will get a huge power up or gets UI in episode 123 don't know why this site is so basis against vegeta you guys do nothing but hate on him and jump to conclusion.

Didn't you know this is the Goku fan club base of operations?

[perucho1990]

Sorry but if Aniraza doesnt eliminate anyone then U3 is the biggest joke of the ToP.

Scrub teams like U4 and U9 at least got eliminations.

Dyspo is so getting mangled by Freeza.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

If Vegeta does go out I think it's more likely for Gohan to fight Toppo as Goku doing so will drain him and he won't have enough power to fight Jerin. In terms of Vegeta's fight, there's nothing about him winning, losing or getting away but regardless of what happens I hope he puts in a good one as he hasn't done anything major yet.

I'm pretty vegeta will get a huge power up or gets UI in episode 123 don't know why this site is so basis against vegeta you guys do nothing but hate on him and jump to conclusion.

Didn't you know this is the Goku fan club base of operations?

Yeah I didn't know that.

[Kenneth La Torre]

RIP vegeta. I'm a big fan of vegeta, but there are things that vegeta cant just do, and that is fighting beeru- i mean jiren.

[Lionel]

Freeza isn't familiar with Dyspo's speed enhancement technique. Regardless of whether the tyrant holds a power advantage or not, that technique should make Dyspo vastly more quick than what Freeza can perceive. I would hope that the studio doesn't choose to besmirch Hit's struggle in working out how this opponent's strategy operates just to prop Freeza up on an unnecessary pedestal. Knowing what they've done so far with him, though, I almost expect that to happen.

[Totamo]

Because the writers wanted him to. When Goku gets something(s) there's every excuse known to man that justifies it yet when Vegeta does everyone pulls out the fan service card.

How Vegeta getting Black in the manga is just fan service despite Black killing his wife, trying to kill his son & destroying the timeline he lives in will be something I'll never understand.



Goku also fought Cell and Freeza yet Gohan and Trunks were the ones who finished them off so that doesn't hold any ground.

Goku was the main reason Gohan won that fight, You know that and in the original timeline, Goku beat him so both points are moot. If Vegeta's victory was even close like both of these, you wouldn't call it a vegeta victory.


And for the black arc because Black took Goku's body, not Vegeta's, it was becuase of Goku why Zamaus even went bad and Goku knew Bulma longer than Vegeta did so that point is moot. not to mention Black is kind of an evil Goku and Goku and they didn't even fight once. Not Once.




It was forced especially when you watch the anime and see it actually happen.

Did this guy just say that Goku and Black didn’t fight once? Way to completely make yourself lose all credibility and value to anything that comes through your mouth.

There’s absolutely nothing forced about Vegeta fighting and getting an advantage over Black. Especially when this arc involves his son getting tortured and wife getting murdered. Vegeta lost, trained for x amount of months, and was able to get a leg up on Black.

I’ve seen your posts about Vegeta and Vegeta fans. You just need to accept the fact that you’re biased. You can’t even make accurate assessments.

Name one time Black and Goku fought in the manga. If you can't, then you yourself have lost all credibility.

Like I said before, Black took Goku's body, became a thing because of Goku and killed Goku's best friend. Goku is literally the reason why the future trunks arc even happened and its not forced that Vegeta fights him twice and Goku doesn't? And before you say, no it was because of trunks in the cell saga. Gero to kill Goku.




And yes, I am biased. I'm biased against nonsense.

[sintzu]

I am biased. I'm biased against nonsense.

Try to be more specific as this just means things you don't agree with.

[Whatever]

How Vegeta getting Black in the manga is just fan service despite Black killing his wife, trying to kill his son & destroying the timeline he lives in will be something I'll never understand.

Out of all the 3 in that arc,Vegeta has the least connection to Black,what you said is not much,he has as much connection to Black as Hercule does,you can barely call that a connection so having Black all to himself is a problem itself.
Vegeta having a villain all to himself is fine but there is a time and a place for that and the FT arc was not the place for that,especially when we have 2 other characters around that are more connected to Black as far as his origin and backstory go.

[TheSaiyanGod]

How Vegeta getting Black in the manga is just fan service despite Black killing his wife, trying to kill his son & destroying the timeline he lives in will be something I'll never understand.

Out of all the 3 in that arc,Vegeta has the least connection to Black,what you said is not much,he has as much connection to Black as Hercule does,you can barely call that a connection so having Black all to himself is a problem itself.
Vegeta having a villain all to himself is fine but there is a time and a place for that and the FT arc was not the place for that,especially when we have 2 other characters around that are more connected to Black as far as his origin and backstory go.

Not only in the manga, in the anime did we also see Vegeta extremely irritated by the pain that Black inflicted on his family (while training in the gravity room, after the fight between Goku SSJ2 and Black).

Black stole Goku's body and killed Chichi and Goten.
Black killed Bulma and destroyed the future of Trunks, in addition to making him suffer for 1 year

Why would Vegeta's connection be less than that of Goku or Trunks?