Piccolo-Daimaoh question.

[TheGreatness25]

I really believe that Akira Toriyama just didn't think of it until later on. He's not exactly known for thinking ahead of time, and I can agree because whenever I write, I do it as I go along, so it's fine. You can't hunt for logic in a world where logic doesn't exist, that being the Dragon Ball world. There are so many things that don't make sense. Sometimes you just have to sit back, nod your head, and just enjoy.

[ssorcd]

This is a case of the simplest explanation also being the correct one.

[Xyex]

People aren't looking for the simplest answer or something from the real world. They're looking for a logical answer from within the series.

There are so many things that don't make sense.

Except if you sit back and give it some thought there really isn't much that doesn't make sense.

[TheGreatness25]

Well you can go on a crusade to find out "the truth behind Dragon Ball Z" and along the way your "logic" is truly nothing more than speculation.

[Captain Awesome]

Well you can go on a crusade to find out "the truth behind Dragon Ball Z" and along the way your "logic" is truly nothing more than speculation.

Yes, we should all apologize for discussing the show we love.

Speaking of crusades I gather yours has something to do with stating the complete obvious like it holds some sort of significance?

[TheGreatness25]

Not really what I said. Just people start having debates that are 95% of the time absolutely worthless over something that's ridiculous.

[DemonKingPiccolo]

Funny you should start this thread, coincidence: I was also wondering the exact same thing a couple weeks ago.

I also agree with the out-of-universe reasoning: Toriyama just hadn't thought of regenerative abilities at that time in the series, and remember, Piccolo was originally designed as a demon, not an alien. I definitely think it's a simple plot hole, spawned from Toriyama's method of thoughtless story-telling. He's stated quite a few times that he doesn't think about what's to come, he just makes something up as he goes along.

Not really what I said. Just people start having debates that are 95% of the time absolutely worthless over something that's ridiculous.

I agree with you 100% on this matter. There always seems to be two or three really upset members on forum threads that are about DBZ power levels. I find it absolutely ridiculous to get upset over imaginary numbers in an imaginary universe. I got banned from a forum one time because I made some of the members too upset.

[NeptuneKai]

I think it was all part of King Piccolo's elaborate plan. He was aiming for a sneak attack later on in Goku's life. That or maybe he assumed Goku wouldn't train due to the speculationt that the Sajin would have thought the Namekian reincarnation would be equal to or weaker then King Piccolo’s current power so there was “no need to worry about it”.

I always love speculating on these things. No need to shit on people parades or hobbies.

[Dragon Ball Daisuki]

First off, great topic. An interesting detail I apparently overlooked.

I agree about speculation going too far, and in fact I am probably the worst perpetrator here. It's good to put things in perspective once in a while and remind ourselves that yes, we're all very passionate about Dragon Ball, but no, ultimately most of it is not very important, and even less of it was designed to make sense ahead of time.

Here's my take on it: Most of the topics on here (excluding questions from fans newer to one or both series) aren't actually very substantial. This is nobody's fault; again, I blame the subject matter in its simplicity. HOWEVER ... where the topic is substantial, if you're going to post SOMETHING, why not post something interesting and inventive? This is my personal philosophy. If you, on the other hand, believe a topic is trivial, post nothing. Your thoughts will always be wasted on trivial matters.

BACK ON TOPIC --->

Yes, we know that with the advent of Goku's backstory, the series took a not-so-subtle shift from fantasy themes to sci-fi themes. I find it interesting, nevertheless, that Namekian regeneration is considered a decidedly alien trait. Let's think about this. Who was the first character to regenerate (read: brutally sever and toss in the spectators horrified faces, THEN regenerate) his arm? Piccolo. And in the context of what identity was Piccolo introduced...? A MF'ing demon. To be specific, THE REINCARNATED SOUL OF THE MF'ING KING OF DEMONS.

This guy can grow to the size of an apartment complex, stretch his arms to any distance, and reincarnate his soul into an egg. None of these make much sense, scientifically, and can immediately be chalked up to his demonic identity. What makes limb-regeneration outside of the realm of magic/demonism? The fact that some animals found in nature can do the same thing (at a much slower rate)? This rationale seems weak.

Piccolo can do all sorts of bizarre things to his body, because he isn't a mortal. He's a Maou, a Demon King. (Fans of Chrono Trigger will take interest in the fact that Magus' name in the Japanese version is Maou as well, despite not "technically" being a demon)

Let's take this a step further.

Piccolo Daimaou, as an extension of Kami, has no recollection of a past, and certainly has no prior training. He just exists, and has these abilities. He knows how to use them, but he hasn't really earned them. He's not really in control. Piccolo (Jr) on the other hand, has treacherously trained himself to maximize his potential, in addition to claiming to be a "fighter-type" (whether this can be taken literally, or more as Piccolo saying, "I won't submit; instead I am going to defy you Saiya-jins" is up to your own interpretation). In addition, he is simply balls-to-the-wall stronger than Daimaou. Needless to say, Nail is worlds above the both of them. This may be an ability that requires a set battle power.

What I'm saying is, no one really knows. I sure don't, but here are some possibilities. Don't presume the one and only answer is that "Toriyama didn't think of it yet!" Piccolo was tearing off arm-stumps long before Vegeta pronounced him alien.

[Adamant]

(Fans of Chrono Trigger will take interest in the fact that Magus' name in the Japanese version is Maou as well, despite not "technically" being a demon)

Well, he's the leader, or king, of the demon people. Makes more sense than his english name, since he's certainly not the only magus in the game.

[Shadow_Rose]

I always thought he exploded on purpose to hide the fact that he'd spawned a clone of himself and keep Goku from finding and destroying said clone. He seemed to be dying by slowly losing his strength before he spit out the egg, then he tensed up and THEN exploded, so it always seemed like a deliberate move on his part....