"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Whatever]

I got to say i liked Goku's and Piccolo's interaction a lot more in the anime,i believe the dialogue between them represented their relationship between each other much better.
Not to mention in regards to Gohan Piccolo was a lot of more reasonable in the anime,since he simply had a lot of faith in him going far but not going as far as to say they cannot win without him.

[The gr]

I got to say i liked Goku's and Piccolo's interaction a lot more in the anime,i believe the dialogue between them represented their relationship between each other much better.
Not to mention in regards to Gohan Piccolo was a lot of more reasonable in the anime,since he simply had a lot of faith in him going far but not going as far as to say they cannot win without him.

Piccolo also said that in the manga,the only diference in the manga is Goku ignoring Gohan.We only got 1 page of goku and piccolo talking and considering the situation there it sorta make sense why piccolo is angry at goku.

[Michsi]

I got to say i liked Goku's and Piccolo's interaction a lot more in the anime,i believe the dialogue between them represented their relationship between each other much better.

DItto. I don't know whether this is a wrong impression or not, but somehow they all feel "colder" with each-other in the manga (from what little I've seen). The anime does a better job with portraying them as friends and their interaction in general. Piccolo in particular seems a little more distant and stand-offish than he was in the Buu Saga. It's almost like he and Vegeta switched places.

[Hawk9211]

I just hope that piccolo and gohan don’t have same relationship in top like in anime.Let gohan have common sense and piccolo stronger that wet paper arms,it’s for the best of both characters.

[Whatever]

Piccolo also said that in the manga,the only diference in the manga is Goku ignoring Gohan.We only got 1 page of goku and piccolo talking and considering the situation there it sorta make sense why piccolo is angry at goku.

Piccolo believes/believed in Gohan in the anime but he never went so extreme as to say they cannot win without him,which lets be honest considering Gohan's track record and where he stands in strength is illogical.

DItto. I don't know whether this is a wrong impression or not, but somehow they all feel "colder" with each-other in the manga (from what little I've seen). The anime does a better job with portraying them as friends and their interaction in general. Piccolo in particular seems a little more distant and stand-offish than he was in the Buu Saga. It's almost like he and Vegeta switched places.

Yeah Goku is not allowed to interact and connect much with any of the other Z fighters outside of Vegeta in the manga,Toyo really seems want to have Goku exclusive to Vegeta.
I mean you can see that Vegeta was not intended to know about the situation of the tournament right away(just like in the anime)considering the way he replies,which seems to be a Toyo thing in order to push this suposed rivarly further.

[HeroR]

Piccolo also said that in the manga,the only diference in the manga is Goku ignoring Gohan.We only got 1 page of goku and piccolo talking and considering the situation there it sorta make sense why piccolo is angry at goku.

Piccolo believes/believed in Gohan in the anime but he never went so extreme as to say they cannot win without him,which lets be honest considering Gohan's track record and where he stands in strength is illogical.

DItto. I don't know whether this is a wrong impression or not, but somehow they all feel "colder" with each-other in the manga (from what little I've seen). The anime does a better job with portraying them as friends and their interaction in general. Piccolo in particular seems a little more distant and stand-offish than he was in the Buu Saga. It's almost like he and Vegeta switched places.

Yeah Goku is not allowed to interact and connect much with any of the other Z fighters outside of Vegeta in the manga,Toyo really seems want to have Goku exclusive to Vegeta.
I mean you can see that Vegeta was not intended to know about the situation of the tournament right away(just like in the anime)considering the way he replies,which seems to be a Toyo thing in order to push this suposed rivarly further.

When Piccolo asked that, I kinda wanted Goku to answer with a blunt yes.

I think Goku interactive well with 17, Krillin, and 18 here. 17 just doesn’t seem to have the ‘bro’ thing like the anime. And I do missed 17 calling Krillin his brother.

[The gr]

Yeah Goku is not allowed to interact and connect much with any of the other Z fighters outside of Vegeta in the manga,Toyo really seems want to have Goku exclusive to Vegeta.
I mean you can see that Vegeta was not intended to know about the situation of the tournament right away(just like in the anime)considering the way he replies,which seems to be a Toyo thing in order to push this suposed rivarly further.

Your kinda exaggerating with that statement,Goku do interact with other characters:#18,Krillin,#17,Piccolo in U6,etc.Recently he interacted more with #17 than Vegeta right now honestly Goku in both version never cared for this petty rivarly.

Vegeta lines are literally Gohan in the recruitment ,assuming the staff gave this role to gohan since they liked this character a lot,they went far as saying goku won't win without him that's what i remember when the exhibition were over.

[BlueVegerot]

Well they can't win without gohan in a sense. if yamcha was selected instead he'd be eliminated by now and u6 would hav only 5 left atm instead of 6

[Miracles]

Love how the manga handled goku and 17. Good to see the characters acting like themselves..The manga is proving again that it is the definitive sequel.

I too believe the manga has a better grasp of the characters and their powers than the anime.

Right, that's a ridiculous stretch. 17's personality/character is hardly any different in the manga/anime. I love how people exaggerate in an odd attempt to push their bias.

Well look how the Vegeta and Goku rivalry is portrayed in the manga compared to the anime. Vegeta actually keeps up with Goku instead of being a bitter cheerleader like the anime. Goku isn't so clumsy in the manga, like actually bringing the Zensu beans instead of leaving it when using the toilet like the anime. Goku actually holding back god mode from 17 instead of using it like the anime. Portrays much better how Goku does hold back a lot more.

[HeroR]

I too believe the manga has a better grasp of the characters and their powers than the anime.

Right, that's a ridiculous stretch. 17's personality/character is hardly any different in the manga/anime. I love how people exaggerate in an odd attempt to push their bias.

Well look how the Vegeta and Goku rivalry is portrayed in the manga compared to the anime. Vegeta actually keeps up with Goku instead of being a bitter cheerleader like the anime. Goku isn't so clumsy in the manga, like actually bringing the Zensu beans instead of leaving it when using the toilet like the anime. Goku actually holding back god mode from 17 instead of using it like the anime. Portrays much better how Goku does hold back a lot more.

How is Goku holding back god made a character moment? He used Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan against 17 as a test, so he wasn’t holding back to save stamina.

The anime doesn’t focused Goku and Vegeta rival since Goku has a rivalry with Hit, while manga Hit and Goku don’t really have a realionship. And when was Vegeta Goku’s cheerleader in the anime?

[Supersaiyanbulla]

Yeah Goku is not allowed to interact and connect much with any of the other Z fighters outside of Vegeta in the manga,Toyo really seems want to have Goku exclusive to Vegeta.
I mean you can see that Vegeta was not intended to know about the situation of the tournament right away(just like in the anime)considering the way he replies,which seems to be a Toyo thing in order to push this suposed rivarly further.

Your kinda exaggerating with that statement,Goku do interact with other characters:#18,Krillin,#17,Piccolo in U6,etc.Recently he interacted more with #17 than Vegeta right now honestly Goku in both version never cared for this petty rivarly.

Vegeta lines are literally Gohan in the recruitment ,assuming the staff gave this role to gohan since they liked this character a lot,they went far as saying goku won't win without him that's what i remember when the exhibition were over.

Forgot what episode but goku actually said him and vegeta was rivals in early super don't know why people forget about that.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

Right, that's a ridiculous stretch. 17's personality/character is hardly any different in the manga/anime. I love how people exaggerate in an odd attempt to push their bias.

Well look how the Vegeta and Goku rivalry is portrayed in the manga compared to the anime. Vegeta actually keeps up with Goku instead of being a bitter cheerleader like the anime. Goku isn't so clumsy in the manga, like actually bringing the Zensu beans instead of leaving it when using the toilet like the anime. Goku actually holding back god mode from 17 instead of using it like the anime. Portrays much better how Goku does hold back a lot more.

How is Goku holding back god made a character moment? He used Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan against 17 as a test, so he wasn’t holding back to save stamina.

The anime doesn’t focused Goku and Vegeta rival since Goku has a rivalry with Hit, while manga Hit and Goku don’t really have a realionship. And when was Vegeta Goku’s cheerleader in the anime?

If were being serious vegeta and cabba have a far better relationship then goku and hit I mean goku didn't even care when hit got erased while when cabba got erased vegeta got mad.

[HeroR]

Well look how the Vegeta and Goku rivalry is portrayed in the manga compared to the anime. Vegeta actually keeps up with Goku instead of being a bitter cheerleader like the anime. Goku isn't so clumsy in the manga, like actually bringing the Zensu beans instead of leaving it when using the toilet like the anime. Goku actually holding back god mode from 17 instead of using it like the anime. Portrays much better how Goku does hold back a lot more.

How is Goku holding back god made a character moment? He used Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan against 17 as a test, so he wasn’t holding back to save stamina.

The anime doesn’t focused Goku and Vegeta rival since Goku has a rivalry with Hit, while manga Hit and Goku don’t really have a realionship. And when was Vegeta Goku’s cheerleader in the anime?

If were being serious vegeta and cabba have a far better relationship then goku and hit I mean goku didn't even care when hit got erased while when cabba got erased vegeta got mad.

That’s because Vegeta and Cabba are mentor/student, while Goku sees Hit as his equal and rival. Goku is also more detached in general. Different relationships.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

How is Goku holding back god made a character moment? He used Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan against 17 as a test, so he wasn’t holding back to save stamina.

The anime doesn’t focused Goku and Vegeta rival since Goku has a rivalry with Hit, while manga Hit and Goku don’t really have a realionship. And when was Vegeta Goku’s cheerleader in the anime?

If were being serious vegeta and cabba have a far better relationship then goku and hit I mean goku didn't even care when hit got erased while when cabba got erased vegeta got mad.

That’s because Vegeta and Cabba are mentor/student, while Goku sees Hit as his equal and rival. Goku is also more detached in general. Different relationships.

Fair enough.

[Miracles]

Right, that's a ridiculous stretch. 17's personality/character is hardly any different in the manga/anime. I love how people exaggerate in an odd attempt to push their bias.

Well look how the Vegeta and Goku rivalry is portrayed in the manga compared to the anime. Vegeta actually keeps up with Goku instead of being a bitter cheerleader like the anime. Goku isn't so clumsy in the manga, like actually bringing the Zensu beans instead of leaving it when using the toilet like the anime. Goku actually holding back god mode from 17 instead of using it like the anime. Portrays much better how Goku does hold back a lot more.

How is Goku holding back god made a character moment? He used Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan against 17 as a test, so he wasn’t holding back to save stamina.

The anime doesn’t focused Goku and Vegeta rival since Goku has a rivalry with Hit, while manga Hit and Goku don’t really have a realionship. And when was Vegeta Goku’s cheerleader in the anime?

Vegeta is always stating how he will surpass Goku in the anime and NEVER even close. In the manga, it is actually a roller coaster ride or they are equal. Goku testing 17 with lower modes than god is more in tune with Goku's character as he has a "bad habit of holding back." Rather than with the anime, him going Blue, which doesn't seem like something Goku would do.

[Lord Beerus]

Well look how the Vegeta and Goku rivalry is portrayed in the manga compared to the anime. Vegeta actually keeps up with Goku instead of being a bitter cheerleader like the anime. Goku isn't so clumsy in the manga, like actually bringing the Zensu beans instead of leaving it when using the toilet like the anime. Goku actually holding back god mode from 17 instead of using it like the anime. Portrays much better how Goku does hold back a lot more.

How is Goku holding back god made a character moment? He used Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan against 17 as a test, so he wasn’t holding back to save stamina.

The anime doesn’t focused Goku and Vegeta rival since Goku has a rivalry with Hit, while manga Hit and Goku don’t really have a realionship. And when was Vegeta Goku’s cheerleader in the anime?

Vegeta is always stating how he will surpass Goku in the anime and NEVER even close. In the manga, it is actually a roller coaster ride or they are equal. Goku testing 17 with lower modes than god is more in tune with Goku's character as he has a "bad habit of holding back." Rather than with the anime, him going Blue, which doesn't seem like something Goku would do.

Goku did fight #17 as a SSJ initially to test how strong #17 was. Then he went to SSJB when he realised that #17 was way more of a challenge than he expected. Goku even commented that he didn't intend to got to SSJB.

[HeroR]

Vegeta is always stating how he will surpass Goku in the anime and NEVER even close. In the manga, it is actually a roller coaster ride or they are equal. Goku testing 17 with lower modes than god is more in tune with Goku's character as he has a "bad habit of holding back." Rather than with the anime, him going Blue, which doesn't seem like something Goku would do.

Vegeta in the anime isn't always stating he will surpassed Goku, he only really specifically said that in Episode 2 and 93. Everywhere else, he said he will surpassed the gods. And even in the original manga, Vegeta had a one-sided rivalry with Goku since he was always behind except for two times.

Goku went Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan against 17 because he was specifically test 17, while in the manga, 17 and Goku got into accidental fight. And it was noted that even in Blue, Goku was holding back, so he's perfectly within character. And the "bad habit of holding back" line is only one the anime ironically enough, not the manga.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

Well look how the Vegeta and Goku rivalry is portrayed in the manga compared to the anime. Vegeta actually keeps up with Goku instead of being a bitter cheerleader like the anime. Goku isn't so clumsy in the manga, like actually bringing the Zensu beans instead of leaving it when using the toilet like the anime. Goku actually holding back god mode from 17 instead of using it like the anime. Portrays much better how Goku does hold back a lot more.

How is Goku holding back god made a character moment? He used Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan against 17 as a test, so he wasn’t holding back to save stamina.

The anime doesn’t focused Goku and Vegeta rival since Goku has a rivalry with Hit, while manga Hit and Goku don’t really have a realionship. And when was Vegeta Goku’s cheerleader in the anime?

Vegeta is always stating how he will surpass Goku in the anime and NEVER even close. In the manga, it is actually a roller coaster ride or they are equal. Goku testing 17 with lower modes than god is more in tune with Goku's character as he has a "bad habit of holding back." Rather than with the anime, him going Blue, which doesn't seem like something Goku would do.

If your talking about super then ok fine but before super vegeta actually surpassed goku multiple times.

[Supersaiyanbulla]

Honestly goku and hit rivalry is kinda a joke especially when goku didn't even care or anything when hit got erased as on the other hand vegeta got pissed when cabba got erased.

[HeroR]

If your talking about super then ok fine but before super vegeta actually surpassed goku multiple times.

Within in Z, he may have surpassed him at the beginning of the arc since even Piccolo said he 'may' be more powerful than Goku. He surpassed him after leaving the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for the first time, but after that he never again surpassed Goku in Z. Goku was behind Vegeta on Namek until he trained for six days and Vegeta never truly surpassed him in that arc.