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He used it when he fought Piccolo.Ki Breaker wrote:Did 17 have a shield before?
Or is that a new technique he created one night after a dream where there was another 17 with him?
Oh yeah, I remember something along those lines now..JazzMazz wrote:He used it when he fought Piccolo.Ki Breaker wrote:Did 17 have a shield before?
Or is that a new technique he created one night after a dream where there was another 17 with him?
Namely to defend against the hellzone grenade or whatever the hell its actually called.
Yes, it was physically there.Ki Breaker wrote:Oh yeah, I remember something along those lines now..JazzMazz wrote:He used it when he fought Piccolo.Ki Breaker wrote:Did 17 have a shield before?
Or is that a new technique he created one night after a dream where there was another 17 with him?
Namely to defend against the hellzone grenade or whatever the hell its actually called.
But I can't recall, was there an actual shield shown or was he just fine even after the attack..
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It may be related to the red rocks from the preview:TheDipDap1234 wrote:1) Why is the background red
[/spoiler] Its definitely a directorial choice to create some kind of effect or atmosphere for a scene.TheDipDap1234 wrote:Really interesting picture of 17. 2 things that interest me:
1) Why is the background red
2) Is he doing a new attack? Why is his right hand in a shield?
Nothing shows that it's his big fight. they all look like they're fighting him.Xeogran wrote:So it seems that Aniraza is the serious fight for Android 17. Well then, bye bye. It was fun to see him in action while it lasted, but his time ends here.
And maybe he's showing so much emotion because of 18's elimination too.
I hope Hatchyack Aniraza putz a good fight against the U7 warriors. Also we only will see the sky turns red in the last 5 minutes of the Tournament?HeroR wrote:[spoiler][/spoiler]
If we get a big battle between Gohan Blanco vs El Gran Padre, i'm in; if not, i think it might be too soon, unless the ToP gets a hiatus and we get some filler before the next saga begins.Noah wrote:So how would you guys like if this arc ended with a final confrontation against the Grand Priest?
It's a good possibility. Playing an instrumental role in the downfall of Universe 3's trump card sounds like a handsome bounty for a character who has helped contribute to the demise of two other universes already. I think Universe 11 should be reserved for the vanguard of U7 at this point. It's already possible that Freeza could eliminate Dyspo on his own. Vegeta is going to be preoccupied with Jiren and then something else. With regards to Goku I wouldn't mind it if he was somehow eliminated, even though the odds of that happening are practically zero. Gohan should hopefully have something else to do due in part to the position he was originally given on the team and because of the appearance he holds as the first son of the protagonist.Big Chief wrote:Judging from 17's expression, 18 is probably gone. Now the real question is if 17 will also be eliminated or not.
Goku being eliminated would be interesting, it would be just like when U6 became "Hit -less". We could actually see more strategy based fights, given the fact, that the only one who could take out Jiren without doing any of that would be gone and a Vegeta/Freeza/Gohan team up would be nice (i'm assuming 17 is gone ).Lionel wrote:It's a good possibility. Playing an instrumental role in the downfall of Universe 3's trump card sounds like a handsome bounty for a character who has helped contribute to the demise of two other universes already. I think Universe 11 should be reserved for the vanguard of U7 at this point. It's already possible that Freeza could eliminate Dyspo on his own. Vegeta is going to be preoccupied with Jiren and then something else. With regards to Goku I wouldn't mind it if he was somehow eliminated, even though the odds of that happening are practically zero. Gohan should hopefully have something else to do due in part to the position he was originally given on the team and because of the appearance he holds as the first son of the protagonist.Big Chief wrote:Judging from 17's expression, 18 is probably gone. Now the real question is if 17 will also be eliminated or not.
Thing is, U6 still had several cards to play even without Hit, namely the fusion with Kale and Cali. So while he lost of Hit was a mighty blow, it wasn't necessarily a fatal one. The death blow for U6 came when they lost Kefla.dbs fanboy wrote: Goku being eliminated would be interesting, it would be just like when U6 became "Hit -less". We could actually see more strategy based fights, given the fact, that the only one who could take out Jiren without doing any of that would be gone and a Vegeta/Freeza/Gohan team up would be nice (i'm assuming 17 is gone ).
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
What strategy could they use exactly? Makankosappos and Kienzans would shatter upon contact with his aura alone, the side characters wouldn't even be able to get close to him. If anyone foolishly tried the Taiyoken they'd be out of the ring before they could even move their hands.Lionel wrote:Nothing about the conventional mindset of the fighters would enable them to stand up to Jiren, yeah. The writing staff at Toei and Toriyama would have be to willing to think quite outside the box for a possible team-up amongst the subsidiary members to have a chance at winning. It could definitely be done, though. Heck! It would have been theoretically possible for any of the earthlings to defeat him through any number of strategies. That's not what the creative powers that be want or are familiar with, however. It's not as visually sensational as Jiren and Goku beating each other senseless in a climactic final showdown with sparks flying, wind currents intensifying all around them, and everyone fawning over their insurmountable power.
Roshi in theory could do the Evil Containment Wave. Although I doubt Jiren would be as stupid as Zamasu and Frost and let it hit him. A Solar Flare could blind him and maybe they can do an Evil Containment Wave. It's actually a combo Goku can do, funny enough.TheUltimateNinja wrote:What strategy could they use exactly? Makankosappos and Kienzans would shatter upon contact with his aura alone, the side characters wouldn't even be able to get close to him. If anyone foolishly tried the Taiyoken they'd be out of the ring before they could even move their hands.Lionel wrote:Nothing about the conventional mindset of the fighters would enable them to stand up to Jiren, yeah. The writing staff at Toei and Toriyama would have be to willing to think quite outside the box for a possible team-up amongst the subsidiary members to have a chance at winning. It could definitely be done, though. Heck! It would have been theoretically possible for any of the earthlings to defeat him through any number of strategies. That's not what the creative powers that be want or are familiar with, however. It's not as visually sensational as Jiren and Goku beating each other senseless in a climactic final showdown with sparks flying, wind currents intensifying all around them, and everyone fawning over their insurmountable power.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
I hope not. i mean i just feel like it would be a waste to eliminate 17 now. he's been brought back after all this time, built up, hyped up and for him to go in the same episode as his sister ? he didn't even have an episode named after him yet and only eliminated 4 fodder characters. Toshio said he was about to write about him after he already said he wrote a u3 episode. so i don't really know i can't say i'm 100% confident.Big Chief wrote:Judging from 17's expression, 18 is probably gone. Now the real question is if 17 will also be eliminated or not.
Jiren can blitz Goku who is far faster than the other characters, there's no way they can connect with any technique unless he allows it.HeroR wrote:Roshi in theory could do the Evil Containment Wave. Although I doubt Jiren would be as stupid as Zamasu and Frost and let it hit him. A Solar Flare could blind him and maybe they can do an Evil Containment Wave. It's actually a combo Goku can do, funny enough.TheUltimateNinja wrote:What strategy could they use exactly? Makankosappos and Kienzans would shatter upon contact with his aura alone, the side characters wouldn't even be able to get close to him. If anyone foolishly tried the Taiyoken they'd be out of the ring before they could even move their hands.Lionel wrote:Nothing about the conventional mindset of the fighters would enable them to stand up to Jiren, yeah. The writing staff at Toei and Toriyama would have be to willing to think quite outside the box for a possible team-up amongst the subsidiary members to have a chance at winning. It could definitely be done, though. Heck! It would have been theoretically possible for any of the earthlings to defeat him through any number of strategies. That's not what the creative powers that be want or are familiar with, however. It's not as visually sensational as Jiren and Goku beating each other senseless in a climactic final showdown with sparks flying, wind currents intensifying all around them, and everyone fawning over their insurmountable power.
A Special Beam Cannon would have to charged for a long ass time to pierce Jiren and then good luck hitting him.
But as the sparring match with Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku and Krillin made clear, once a certain power threshold is reached, you have no chance. And given who is left in the ring, only Goku have the unique techniques now. The rest are more brutes.
