How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by Mercenary » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:09 am

buutenks wrote:Seems to me he gets some rage boost. You can tell in the episode it has 2 different animation styles. One is the average DBS one where Vegeta isn't doing well, the other is the awesome one where he dominates.

But, I am being pessimistic, I think the trailer is misleading and Vegeta will get horribly stomped and ringed out.

No, not yet. He will probably contribute to Jiren's fall.

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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by FrioPolar » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:33 am

Probably with the final Flash he will hurt Jiren or at least receive some words of respect from him for the power he showed.
The final Flash seems to be for the end of the episode.

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when he is charging his Final flash his armor is a little broken, and it seems that it is not like that while exchanging blows with Jiren.

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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by TheSaiyanGod » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:00 am

FrioPolar wrote:Probably with the final Flash he will hurt Jiren or at least receive some words of respect from him for the power he showed.
The final Flash seems to be for the end of the episode.

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when he is charging his Final flash his armor is a little broken, and it seems that it is not like that while exchanging blows with Jiren.

But the power of the Final Flash always overcomes Vegeta's power (that is, its limits), and a great example of this is against Cell. However, this is no guarantee that it will work.

The big surprise was Vegeta managing to hit a hit on Jiren and Jiren himself pressed during the exchange of punches with Vegeta. Neither Goku Blue has been able to do this, so I think the part of overcoming the limits is related to that

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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by Mercenary » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:12 pm

TheSaiyanGod wrote:
FrioPolar wrote:Probably with the final Flash he will hurt Jiren or at least receive some words of respect from him for the power he showed.
The final Flash seems to be for the end of the episode.

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when he is charging his Final flash his armor is a little broken, and it seems that it is not like that while exchanging blows with Jiren.

But the power of the Final Flash always overcomes Vegeta's power (that is, its limits), and a great example of this is against Cell. However, this is no guarantee that it will work.

The big surprise was Vegeta managing to hit a hit on Jiren and Jiren himself pressed during the exchange of punches with Vegeta. Neither Goku Blue has been able to do this, so I think the part of overcoming the limits is related to that

Most likely. Goku overcame his limits by trying to tank his "own" Genki Dama. Maybe Vegeta after using his full power and charging Final Flash also will be able to achieve.....UI?

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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by TBMx » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:33 pm

Vegeta will NEVER get UI down the line, because Goku will hog any opponent that's so strong it could bring out Vegeta UI. And one has to ask what would be so different then compared to now. And don't say he gets it offscreen, because that would be nonsensical to say the least.

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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by Supersaiyanbulla » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:40 pm

TBMx wrote:Vegeta will NEVER get UI down the line, because Goku will hog any opponent that's so strong it could bring out Vegeta UI. And one has to ask what would be so different then compared to now. And don't say he gets it offscreen, because that would be nonsensical to say the least.
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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by MajinVegetaPD » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:01 pm

TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:I do think Vegeta will get Ultra Instinct down the line. However, I do not think he’ll get it in this tournament as many are expecting.

Betting on fruits of training to have him compete with Jiren for a bit, and compete better than KKx20 Goku and Hit, but that’s it. A Bulma and family motivated powerup would be a nice touch though, but not banking on it happening. Maybe something like him completing SSB? That’s as far as I’ll go.
This is the more likely scenario. Vegeta will get some false/temporary power up, and then get beaten. In the next arc, Vegeta will then be shown capable of using Ultra Instinct with no explanation as to how he achieved it. :wtf:

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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by CJStriker_CBR » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:03 pm

I would not call myself a Vegeta Fan or Follower of his canon as closely as his fans.

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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by KingKaash » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:42 pm

TheSaiyanGod wrote: Showing the results of your training in RoSaT?
I prefer this because then it would be a logical growth for Vegeta instead of just a temporary, one-time anger power boost
"Gohan, let it go. It is not a sin to fight for the right cause. There are those who words alone will not reach. Cell is such a being. I know how you feel Gohan, you are gentle, you do not like to hurt. I know because I too have learned these feelings. But it is because you cherish life that you must protect it. Please drop your restraints. Protect the life I once loved. You have the strength, my scanners sensed it..." -Android 16

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Re: How will Vegeta overcome its limits?

Post by JazzMazz » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:12 am

I’m surprised no one has advocated for the most obvious answer. In all likeliness, Vegeta is going to improve through continuouslly pushing himself while fighting. No rage boost required, he’ll just improve through pushing his limits in his fight against Jiren. The same way Goku has throughout this tournament.

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