Good list, agreed about Magetta. He's never actually been overpowered in battle, it's always come down to his weakness to insults.Hakaishin Liquir wrote:Here's my ranking of the top 20 fighters in the TO. I'm basing this on overall strength and not just power levels since I don't see the point in looking at only power levels and ignoring techniques. I want to hear your guys' opinion on Magetta because I feel like a lot of people underestimate him.
1. Jiren- obvious
2. Goku- obvious
3. Kefla- Aniraza was strong, but I don't think that he was stronger than SSBKK x 20 Genkidama Goku like Kefla is.
4. Aniraza- was overpowering a combo attack from 5 SSB level characters
5. Hit- Confirmed to be above SSB Goku level. He dominated Dyspo, who was giving SSG/SSB Goku trouble, and he did better than SSBKKx20 Goku did against Jiren. Also, Goku said that Hit got stronger, and Goku hasn't trained since the last time they fought, so Hit is without a doubt above SSB Goku since he was = to him in their last fight.
6. Vegeta- Might be higher based on the NEP, but I'm waiting until episode 122 comes out before I move Vegeta up. If he does well against Jiren only because of a rage boost, then he will probably not move up.
7. Toppo- These next few are arguable and pretty interchangeable until they get more feats.
8. Freeza
9. Gohan
10 or 11. Android 17/Dyspo
12. Koichiarator
13 or 14. Saonel/Pirina- Each one individually could probably hold off Ulimate Gohan for a while, but individually they are still weaker than him by a fair amount
15. Maji Kayo- Restrained SSJ Goku and restrained Dyspo momentarily. You can argue that he ranges anywhere from SSJ Goku level to SSG Goku level since he doesn't have a whole lot of showings, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and put him on the higher end of this spectrum.
16. Obuni- Forced Gohan to use his Ultimate form, and he could trade a few blows with Ultimate Gohan. There's probably a good chance that Gohan was holding back, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
17. Kale- In her controlled Berserk form, she was stronger than SSJ2 Goku and should be somewhere around SSJ3 Goku
18. Bergamo- In his giant form, which he didn't use in the TOP for some reason, his Wolfgang Penetrator could push back a big Kamehameha from SSBKK Goku, which forced Goku to put more power into it, but Bergamo's speed is garbage since he couldn't hit SSJ Goku, so his god tier power level and his trash speed put him around SSJ2/SSJ3 level imo.
19. Magetta- Magetta's durability is insane. SSJ Vegeta couldn't put a dent in him in both of their fights, and he easily blocked a Big Bang Attack from SSJ Vegeta like it was nothing. His lava attacks would be pretty dangerous if they land, and his punches are capable of knocking back SSJ Vegeta. and Magetta's speed seems to have improved since the previous tournament since he was able to parry SSJ Vegeta's hits. Magetta is imo around SSJ2/SSJ3 Goku/Vegeta level since his durability would force them to use AT LEAST SSJ2 to damage him, but I'd argue that SSJ3 might be required to do meaningful damage. People tend to sleep on him for some reason and idk why.
20. Caulfila- In her current SSJ2 form, she's not too far off from SSJ2 Goku, as shown in 113 and 114.
Honorable mentions: Cabba, Monna, and Piccolo.
A few minor quibbles, I'd put Anizala above Kefla. With her, there's that benefit of the doubt since Goku wasn't fighting to his fullest until he got Ultra Instinct, while Anizala was doing well against Goku and several other Blue tier fighters. 17 and Freeza at least would have had no stamina loss against him. I'm not sure I'd rank Maji Kayo or Obuni above Kale based on lack of feats, but I get where you're coming from. Not to mention Kale was holding her own reasonably well when Goku powered up to SSG.
), Piccolo has only ever been portrayed as the base Saiyans' equal at the most, most prominently when him and Gohan fight together relatively evenly with Saonel and Pirina before the two of them unleash their full power.
