"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Hakaishin Liquir]

So Dyspo really is above SSB level? He's taking on Gohan and Freeza at the same time, so he's probably stronger than both of them individually.

Dyspo's attribute isn't strong it's fast, it would make more sense for him to be weaker than both of them individually because having an edge on power and technique isn't quite fair, and it's not exactly how dyspo was built up until now that you would assume he would be such, for crying out loud the guy ran away because was scared of Freeza final form's ruthlessness and he is supposed to be a fighter of Justice..

When I say strength, I mean his overall prowess has a fighter, which includes his speed, physical strength, techniques, tactics, etc. That scene where Dyspo runs away from Freeza was just a minor scene that the writers would easily overlook if they wanted to make Dyspo stronger. It's similar to how Dyspo got knocked away by a fodder like Narirama, even though he's clearly hundreds of times stronger than Narirama.

[Hawk9211]

So Dyspo really is above SSB level? He's taking on Gohan and Freeza at the same time, so he's probably stronger than both of them individually.

Dyspo's attribute isn't strong it's fast, it would make more sense for him to be weaker than both of them individually because having an edge on power and technique isn't quite fair, and it's not exactly how dyspo was built up until now that you would assume he would be such, for crying out loud the guy ran away because was scared of Freeza final form's ruthlessness and he is supposed to be a fighter of Justice..

When I say strength, I mean his overall prowess has a fighter, which includes his speed, physical strength, techniques, tactics, etc. That scene where Dyspo runs away from Freeza was just a minor scene that the writers would easily overlook if they wanted to make Dyspo stronger. It's similar to how Dyspo got knocked away by a fodder like Narirama, even though he's clearly hundreds of times stronger than Narirama.

Those little skirmishes don't mean anything,murichim from U10 was once fighting evenly with toppo and he was fodderised by freeza.

[Hakaishin Liquir]

Dyspo's attribute isn't strong it's fast, it would make more sense for him to be weaker than both of them individually because having an edge on power and technique isn't quite fair, and it's not exactly how dyspo was built up until now that you would assume he would be such, for crying out loud the guy ran away because was scared of Freeza final form's ruthlessness and he is supposed to be a fighter of Justice..

When I say strength, I mean his overall prowess has a fighter, which includes his speed, physical strength, techniques, tactics, etc. That scene where Dyspo runs away from Freeza was just a minor scene that the writers would easily overlook if they wanted to make Dyspo stronger. It's similar to how Dyspo got knocked away by a fodder like Narirama, even though he's clearly hundreds of times stronger than Narirama.

Those little skirmishes don't mean anything,murichim from U10 was once fighting evenly with toppo and he was fodderised by freeza.

That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that the minor scene where Dyspo runs away from Final Form Freeza is similar to the scene where Narirama hits him in that both scenes were insignificant and Toei won't care about them later on.

[TheSaiyanGod]

It was obvious that Vegeta would not defeat Jiren, the most important will be his performance in the fight, which may be better than Goku Kaioken x20 and Hitto.

It will also be interesting to see how the two will fight together. At least Vegeta will not be eliminated and it shows that he will still have importance in this tournament.

But it surprises me that Gohan will help Freeza against Dyspo. The emperor was supposed to be easy to deal with Dyspo, but we have to see how the fight will unfold

[Freeza9000]

That scene where Dyspo runs away from Freeza was just a minor scene that the writers would easily overlook if they wanted to make Dyspo stronger

I interpret the Dyspo escaping scene to be him trying to avoid the possibility of yet another stronger opponent countering his speed and tearing his ass apart in combat afterwards. After all, Freeza went Golden a couple of times in the tournament.

But it surprises me that Gohan will help Freeza against Dyspo. The emperor was supposed to be easy to deal with Dyspo, but we have to see how the fight will unfold

First it was Freeza helping Gohan defeat some Yardrat fodder and now Gohan is the one to assist Freeza against a justifiably powerful foe.

[CriticalThinker]

Even though Vegeta didn't get the W at the very least he didn't get ringed out by Jiren, good on him. Also I'm pretty surprised that Freeza is struggling with Dyspo I mean I get that Dyspo is no push over but I didn't think he'd be that much of a problem. Man oh man I can't wait for 125 my man Toppo is about to kick some ass and I can't wait to see him in action.

[sintzu]

If Vegeta's "cool" moment is in February then what do you think it'll be if not being able to fight Jiren in the next 2 episodes ? Him taking the fall for Goku like what 18 did for 17 ?

[pacz360]

Dyspo giving freeza trouble people underestimate dyspo
I wonder is 17 stalling toppo cause idk why the spoiler dont even mention him
Episode 122 probably has him and gohan fighting toppo

[Lapislettuce]

If Vegeta's "cool" moment is in February then what do you think it'll be if not being able to fight Jiren in the next 2 episodes ? Him taking the fall for Goku like what 18 did for 17 ?

I hope he will team up with 17 against Toppo since it sounds like Toppo is powering up even further and Vegeta is going to be weakened.

[sintzu]

I hope he will team up with 17 against Toppo since it sounds like Toppo is powering up even further and Vegeta is going to be weakened.

I don't think they've ever interacted so that'd be interesting. I'm sure there'll still be surprises down the line but so far 17 has easily been the biggest one by lasting this long and doing what he's done.

I wonder if he'll be in future ars based on how much they used him here.

[Noah]

I know the "Goku's personality" debate has long ended, but I've just found these pictures. Interesting how it perfectly portrays what would happen if it was nowadays.

DBZ Goku:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

DBS Goku:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

This is OLD, but GOLD. I wish the artist did a few more with Super!Goku in the origina manga.

Here's the Herms version..
[spoiler]
[/spoiler]

Wow, this looks quite interesting. Wasn't Gohan and 17 fighting with Toppo? So why he left to help Freeza with Dyspo? Also WTF with the 125 title? This means Toppo will surpass Jiren himself?

[Lapislettuce]

I hope he will team up with 17 against Toppo since it sounds like Toppo is powering up even further and Vegeta is going to be weakened.

I don't think they've ever interacted so that'd be interesting. I'm sure there'll still be surprises down the line but so far 17 has easily been the biggest one by lasting this long and doing what he's done.

I wonder if he'll be in future ars based on how much they used him here.

I'm saying this because Toshio said he was about to write 17 and then 3 weeks later he said he's finished writing a cool Vegeta moment. so i'm hoping they are in the same episode as you said they haven't interacted yet except Vegeta telling him he strole the spotlight last episode which was funny. i hope it happens.

[Freeza9000]

this looks quite interesting. Wasn't Gohan and 17 fighting with Toppo? So why he left to help Freeza with Dyspo? Also WTF with the 125 title? This means Toppo will surpass Jiren himself?

This would probably mean that after killing is allowed by Zeno, Toppo DECIDES TO DO THE HAKAI!!!

[vashter]

I know the "Goku's personality" debate has long ended, but I've just found these pictures. Interesting how it perfectly portrays what would happen if it was nowadays.

DBZ Goku:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

DBS Goku:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

This is OLD, but GOLD. I wish the artist did a few more with Super!Goku in the origina manga.

Here's the Herms version..
[spoiler]
[/spoiler]

Wow, this looks quite interesting. Wasn't Gohan and 17 fighting with Toppo? So why he left to help Freeza with Dyspo? Also WTF with the 125 title? This means Toppo will surpass Jiren himself?

Nobody can touch Jiren, not even Toppo will.

[The gr]

this looks quite interesting. Wasn't Gohan and 17 fighting with Toppo? So why he left to help Freeza with Dyspo? Also WTF with the 125 title? This means Toppo will surpass Jiren himself?

This would probably mean that after killing is allowed by Zeno, Toppo DECIDES TO DO THE HAKAI!!!

OMG that is an asspull,toei is a hack.Make sense,he is the God of destruction canditate,the anime should have elaborated on this part like the manga.

I'm in the minority that want Gohan to be rung out by Dyspo while Frieza takes him out causing Toppo to be angry and attack him,Frieza vs Toppo is the perfect match up,just imagine the great dialogues between those two.

[ArchedThunder]

OMG that is an asspull,toei is a hack.Make sense,he is the God of destruction canditate,the anime should have elaborated on this part like the manga.

They probably wanted this to be a big reveal...

[vashter]

OMG that is an asspull,toei is a hack.Make sense,he is the God of destruction canditate,the anime should have elaborated on this part like the manga.

They probably wanted this to be a big reveal...

He been that way since Feb ALLL the way to October, the night of 1 hour special came out, they change his bio differently for some reason, yea manga has one... but anime? and bring that back again? it isn't a ass pull, he been that damn way since BIO release.

[Freeza9000]

OMG that is an asspull,toei is a hack.Make sense,he is the God of destruction canditate,the anime should have elaborated on this part like the manga.

They probably wanted this to be a big reveal...

Wasn't it already revealed in the preliminaries arc?

[The gr]

They probably wanted this to be a big reveal...

Don't know why they kept this of all things a mystery,is really unnecessary

Wasn't it already revealed in the preliminaries arc?

No they never mentioned this.

[ArchedThunder]

Don't know why they kept this of all things a mystery,is really unnecessa

For the purpose of a dramatic reveal?

Wasn't it already revealed in the preliminaries arc?

No, but we've known because of his bio on the official Super site.