"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Noah » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:08 pm

Also you gotta love that Goku and Vegeta are teaming up against Jiren, putting their Saiyan Pride BS aside and once again showing to understand the stakes of this tournament. I hope both them get UI and overwhelm this damn fool!
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Post by Michsi » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:10 pm

Noah wrote:Also you gotta love that Goku and Vegeta are teaming up against Jiren, putting their Saiyan Pride BS aside and once again showing to understand the stakes of this tournament. I hope both them get UI and overwhelm this damn fool!
I can't help but wonder just how severely injured Vegeta is if he can team up with Goku the next episode.

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Post by The gr » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:11 pm

ArchedThunder wrote: For the purpose of a dramatic reveal?
I could understand for jiren,for Toppo he is just the second fiddle,there no power on that reveal unless he uses the Hakai :think: .
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Post by vashter » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:11 pm

Michsi wrote:
Noah wrote:Also you gotta love that Goku and Vegeta are teaming up against Jiren, putting their Saiyan Pride BS aside and once again showing to understand the stakes of this tournament. I hope both them get UI and overwhelm this damn fool!
I can't help but wonder just how severely injured Vegeta is if he can team up with Goku the next episode.
they both went SSB teaming up and try to beat Jiren, it literally NO match against him at all.

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Post by dblack » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:12 pm

Not a fan of Goku+Vegeta vs Jiren.
If they’re not going to be all prideful and 1v1 then why not fuse? Would’ve rather seen Gohan and his dad or Vegeta + 17 while Goku recovers. I feel like 17’s shield is the perfect technique for stalling. 17 landing punches on Jiren would be ridiculous but Vegeta landing punches while 17 shadows him and shields Jiren’s attacks would be a cool strategy.

Big fan of Toppo possibly getting a boost and a good showing. His fight with Goku in the prelims was so hype. All we’ve got from him so far is a Vegeta fight that was barely shown on the screen. I hope he gets multiple episodes and an elimination. With the possibility of him powering up further, a group effort from U7 against him would be cool. 17, Freeza, Gohan after they take care of Dyspo.

Not a fan of Freeza vs Dyspo and especially not a fan of throwing Gohan in there. As everyone else has been saying, it just doesn’t make much sense. Freeza should beat the brakes off of him with little effort. Then Gohan to the rescue? I’m a big Gohan fan and always have been but cmon. Golden Freeza should be able to 1-shot full power Gohan. I’m not opposed to Gohan reaching or even surpassing Golden Freeza level but we need some build-up instead of believing Gohan is powerful enough in his current state to save Freeza.

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Post by IndieBooToo » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:12 pm

Noah wrote:Also you gotta love that Goku and Vegeta are teaming up against Jiren, putting their Saiyan Pride BS aside and once again showing to understand the stakes of this tournament. I hope both them get UI and overwhelm this damn fool!
Or Jiren gets bored and uses more power to one shot Vegeta out of the ring and Goku awakens UI to fight Jiren once again.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:17 pm

Michsi wrote:
I can't help but wonder just how severely injured Vegeta is if he can team up with Goku the next episode.
Random guess: Broken arm with his battle damage from the end of the Future Trunks arc being recycled.

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Post by pacz360 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:18 pm

dblack wrote:Not a fan of Goku+Vegeta vs Jiren.
If they’re not going to be all prideful and 1v1 then why not fuse? Would’ve rather seen Gohan and his dad or Vegeta + 17 while Goku recovers. I feel like 17’s shield is the perfect technique for stalling. 17 landing punches on Jiren would be ridiculous but Vegeta landing punches while 17 shadows him and shields Jiren’s attacks would be a cool strategy.

Big fan of Toppo possibly getting a boost and a good showing. His fight with Goku in the prelims was so hype. All we’ve got from him so far is a Vegeta fight that was barely shown on the screen. I hope he gets multiple episodes and an elimination. With the possibility of him powering up further, a group effort from U7 against him would be cool. 17, Freeza, Gohan after they take care of Dyspo.

Not a fan of Freeza vs Dyspo and especially not a fan of throwing Gohan in there. As everyone else has been saying, it just doesn’t make much sense. Freeza should beat the brakes off of him with little effort. Then Gohan to the rescue? I’m a big Gohan fan and always have been but cmon. Golden Freeza should be able to 1-shot full power Gohan. I’m not opposed to Gohan reaching or even surpassing Golden Freeza level but we need some build-up instead of believing Gohan is powerful enough in his current state to save Freeza.
Your underestimate dyspo
Dyspo speed boost makes him a nightmare for guys like Hit who had to rely on his wits and abilities to beat him
Freeza unlike hit has no abilities to counter Dyspo speed boost
Plus it's not like dyspo lacking in the strength department he was able to combat Hit and knock him on his ass multiple times so he's not weak in the strength department either
Gohan is blue level so I don't see the problem here
If anything dyspo is much more of a threat than we realise
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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:19 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Michsi wrote:
I can't help but wonder just how severely injured Vegeta is if he can team up with Goku the next episode.
Random guess: Broken arm with his battle damage from the end of the Future Trunks arc being recycled.
Modified guess, only armour broken a bit with some black lines on his face..
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Post by Oracle » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:22 pm

Plot twist: Toppo was the strongest all of this time. Jiren is a Monaka, a stronger version of course.

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Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:23 pm

Noah wrote:Also you gotta love that Goku and Vegeta are teaming up against Jiren, putting their Saiyan Pride BS aside and once again showing to understand the stakes of this tournament. I hope both them get UI and overwhelm this damn fool!
And I hope they fuse into Vegetto. Cause Goddamnit, Anyone deserves a second chance!
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Post by sintzu » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:25 pm

Noah wrote:I hope both them get UI and overwhelm this damn fool!
With how strong he is will that even be enough ? I really don't see them winning regardless of what they do. UI Vegeta would be epic regardless. :mrgreen:
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Post by TheOne » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:25 pm

dblack wrote:Not a fan of Goku+Vegeta vs Jiren.
If they’re not going to be all prideful and 1v1 then why not fuse? Would’ve rather seen Gohan and his dad or Vegeta + 17 while Goku recovers. I feel like 17’s shield is the perfect technique for stalling. 17 landing punches on Jiren would be ridiculous but Vegeta landing punches while 17 shadows him and shields Jiren’s attacks would be a cool strategy.

Big fan of Toppo possibly getting a boost and a good showing. His fight with Goku in the prelims was so hype. All we’ve got from him so far is a Vegeta fight that was barely shown on the screen. I hope he gets multiple episodes and an elimination. With the possibility of him powering up further, a group effort from U7 against him would be cool. 17, Freeza, Gohan after they take care of Dyspo.

Not a fan of Freeza vs Dyspo and especially not a fan of throwing Gohan in there. As everyone else has been saying, it just doesn’t make much sense. Freeza should beat the brakes off of him with little effort. Then Gohan to the rescue? I’m a big Gohan fan and always have been but cmon. Golden Freeza should be able to 1-shot full power Gohan. I’m not opposed to Gohan reaching or even surpassing Golden Freeza level but we need some build-up instead of believing Gohan is powerful enough in his current state to save Freeza.
Right? People are up in arms about Vegeta but don’t notice how Frieza should be beating the snot out of Dyspo.
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Post by IndieBooToo » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:26 pm

pacz360 wrote:
dblack wrote:Not a fan of Goku+Vegeta vs Jiren.
If they’re not going to be all prideful and 1v1 then why not fuse? Would’ve rather seen Gohan and his dad or Vegeta + 17 while Goku recovers. I feel like 17’s shield is the perfect technique for stalling. 17 landing punches on Jiren would be ridiculous but Vegeta landing punches while 17 shadows him and shields Jiren’s attacks would be a cool strategy.

Big fan of Toppo possibly getting a boost and a good showing. His fight with Goku in the prelims was so hype. All we’ve got from him so far is a Vegeta fight that was barely shown on the screen. I hope he gets multiple episodes and an elimination. With the possibility of him powering up further, a group effort from U7 against him would be cool. 17, Freeza, Gohan after they take care of Dyspo.

Not a fan of Freeza vs Dyspo and especially not a fan of throwing Gohan in there. As everyone else has been saying, it just doesn’t make much sense. Freeza should beat the brakes off of him with little effort. Then Gohan to the rescue? I’m a big Gohan fan and always have been but cmon. Golden Freeza should be able to 1-shot full power Gohan. I’m not opposed to Gohan reaching or even surpassing Golden Freeza level but we need some build-up instead of believing Gohan is powerful enough in his current state to save Freeza.
Your underestimate dyspo
Dyspo speed boost makes him a nightmare for guys like Hit who had to rely on his wits and abilities to beat him
Freeza unlike hit has no abilities to counter Dyspo speed boost
Plus it's not like dyspo lacking in the strength department he was able to combat Hit and knock him on his ass multiple times so he's not weak in the strength department either
Gohan is blue level so I don't see the problem here
If anything dyspo is much more of a threat than we realise
Lol Gohan is not blue level and Frieza will end up destroying Dyspo the way Hit did once he and Gohan trap him like they did with Frost.

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:27 pm

Being 'second fiddle' to Jiren is hardly a mark against Toppo. That's still a huge range of power he can potentially occupy.

Speaking of GoDs, Toyo recently posted some GoD practice sketches on his twitter. He says they don't exist but I'm starting find this kinda fishy. He just happens to be drawing GoDs, Kais and Angels? :think:
Michsi wrote: I can't help but wonder just how severely injured Vegeta is if he can team up with Goku the next episode.
Goku was severely injured by Jiren at the end of 110. My guess is something like that.

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Post by sintzu » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:28 pm

Oracle wrote:Plot twist: Toppo was the strongest all of this time. Jiren is a Monaka, a stronger version of course.
That would be amazing.
Noah wrote:I hope both them get UI and overwhelm this damn fool!
With how strong he is will that even be enough ? I really don't see them winning regardless of what they do. UI Vegeta would be epic regardless. :mrgreen:
The gr wrote:Toppo is just the second fiddle.
Which shows how hopeless the situation is for Goku and Vegeta fighting Jiren.
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Post by GodVegetto91 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:29 pm

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Noah wrote:Also you gotta love that Goku and Vegeta are teaming up against Jiren, putting their Saiyan Pride BS aside and once again showing to understand the stakes of this tournament. I hope both them get UI and overwhelm this damn fool!
And I hope they fuse into Vegetto. Cause Goddamnit, Anyone deserves a second chance!
SSJ Blue Vegetto is a total nobody at this point. A fully mastered UI Goku can defeat him gazillions of times over. Why not have either one or both of them obtain UI?? I have said this time and again. And i do NOT want to see a Vegetto UNTIL the very ending of Super, where they are up against the Grand Priest or someone similair, and have them THEN fuse into a fully powered Ultra Instinct Vegetto!

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Post by The gr » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:31 pm

TheOne wrote: Right? People are up in arms about Vegeta but don’t notice how Frieza should be beating the snot out of Dyspo.
You guys are underestimating this guy,his speed make him extremely dangerous,heck he could improved his speed and make his movement less linear.
    Knowing DBS track records,there gonna use fake tension,have frieza and gohan fight in their base forms :thumbdown: .
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    Which shows how hopeless the situation is for Goku and Vegeta fighting Jiren.
    Didn't vegeta defeated Toppo as well Goku in the exhibition.
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    Post by sintzu » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:32 pm

    The gr wrote:Didn't vegeta defeated Toppo as well Goku in the exhibition.
    Vegeta's fight didn't continue and if I remember correctly Toppo wasn't going all out against Goku. In the manga he makes Goku look like nothing so that's what we might get here.
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    Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:34 pm

    The gr wrote:
    TheOne wrote: Right? People are up in arms about Vegeta but don’t notice how Frieza should be beating the snot out of Dyspo.
    You guys are underestimating this guy,his speed make him extremely dangerous,heck he could improved his speed and make his movement less linear.
      Knowing DBS track records,there gonna use fake tension,have frieza and gohan fight in their base forms :thumbdown: .
      Or lose in their final forms, DBS doesn't have to make sense, at least I am confident that's what people at toie start their their mornings saying..
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