Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by sintzu » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:05 pm

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TobyS wrote:I'd actually like a hiatus, it would allow the manga and xenoverse franchise some time to catch up, at least partially.
Speaking of manga, this would be a good chance to move Toyotarou into weekly Shonen Jump and get DB back there again.
Basically a hiatus will be boon to the franchise..
It needs to happen and hopefully it does..
IF they base it off a weekly manga then a lot of the writing issues Super has will be gone as they'll have an actual story to base things off of rather than just plain bullet points with little to no details on anything.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by buutenks » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:50 pm

Well, if Super does end with the ToP, I find it a nice end. Goku and co fight against a being stronger than a GoD.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:28 pm

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TobyS wrote:I'd actually like a hiatus, it would allow the manga and xenoverse franchise some time to catch up, at least partially.
Speaking of manga, this would be a good chance to move Toyotarou into weekly Shonen Jump and get DB back there again.
Basically a hiatus will be boon to the franchise..
It needs to happen and hopefully it does..
? The franchise is already well. Doing really well. A hiatus is still unknown what it'll do.

Moving Toyo to a weekly manga is pointless as he is not the original creator plus he's had no experience in the field and he seems to be just making a monthly schedule on time just by his tweets and how sloppy his art became towards the end of the Trunks arc moving him to weekly will crumble the poor guy.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by precita » Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:00 pm

If it does end in March, I can see the next Dragonball series given a new name as we jump into EOZ territory.

Trunks and Goten as adults and main fighters, Goku training Uub to reach God level, Gohan hopefully remaining relevant, and probably some focus on Pan/Bra/Marron. They can call it, "Dragonball: The Next Generation" and focus on the younger fighters as Goku becomes the "Luke Skywalker" of the series and takes a backseat and Vegeta retires with Bulma to the bahamas.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Basaku » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:52 pm

precita wrote:If it does end in March, I can see the next Dragonball series given a new name as we jump into EOZ territory.

Trunks and Goten as adults and main fighters, Goku training Uub to reach God level, Gohan hopefully remaining relevant, and probably some focus on Pan/Bra/Marron. They can call it, "Dragonball: The Next Generation" and focus on the younger fighters as Goku becomes the "Luke Skywalker" of the series and takes a backseat and Vegeta retires with Bulma to the bahamas.
It really writes itself and is the only correct direction for the franchise IMO, although they would have to come up with something REALLY GOOD for 'Next Generation' series to succeed. As much as I want it to happen, I know that it wouldn't surive the mediocrity and many flaws of Super with mostly non-Goku/Vegeta cast, or even the two in old mentor roles. Batman Beyond, Boruto, new Star Wars trilogy should provide many cues what to do and what not to do. And all of these are way better than Super let's be honest...

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by MKCSTEALTH » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:04 pm

Super has been chugging along since 2015. To my knowledge, the anime hasn't really had a "break" yet. I think a season finale would make sense, then we pick things up during the late summer, giving the crew time to work on the movie.

As far as it ending, that's doubtful. It's making way too much money to end.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by sintzu » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:11 pm

buutenks wrote:Well, if Super does end with the ToP, I find it a nice end. Goku and co fight against a being stronger than a GoD.
It works as an ending for this show but not Modern DB as a whole cause I feel like there's much more to see so completely ending it on this arc would be a huge waste. For starters there are 4 other universes we haven't seen yet.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Chuquita » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:18 pm

One of my issues with it potentially ending is that I have doubt they'll use the time off to their advantage if this is a hiatus. They'll probably just throw everyone onto other projects like the Crystal movie or Kitaro.

I still don't think Super's ending so I'll hold off on any plans unless it turns out to be true. Super's the only thing keeping me posting here after all. It ending would directly impact my involvement in this fandom.
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Post by superfan2024 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:34 pm

Chuquita wrote:One of my issues with it potentially ending is that I have doubt they'll use the time off to their advantage if this is a hiatus. They'll probably just throw everyone onto other projects like the Crystal movie or Kitaro.

I still don't think Super's ending so I'll hold off on any plans unless it turns out to be true. Super's the only thing keeping me posting here after all. It ending would directly impact my involvement in this fandom.
Even if Super ends, i'm 100% sure that it's getting a sequel series, or at least another Dragon Ball series.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by buutenks » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:35 pm

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buutenks wrote:Well, if Super does end with the ToP, I find it a nice end. Goku and co fight against a being stronger than a GoD.
It works as an ending for this show but not Modern DB as a whole cause I feel like there's much more to see so completely ending it on this arc would be a huge waste. For starters there are 4 other universes we haven't seen yet.
Pretty sure the exclusion of 4 of the universes was because it would require more characters to be made and so forth. I doubt they kept them for some upcoming arc.

Also, this would be the end of Super. I am sure we will keep getting new content. And proly new series.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by sintzu » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:59 pm

buutenks wrote:I doubt they kept them for some upcoming arc.
That's exactly why they kept them. Have 4 universes on the side and when 7 wins the current tournament it hypes things up for a 3rd tournament with even stronger universes.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by majinwarman » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:12 pm

MKCSTEALTH wrote:Super has been chugging along since 2015. To my knowledge, the anime hasn't really had a "break" yet. I think a season finale would make sense, then we pick things up during the late summer, giving the crew time to work on the movie.

As far as it ending, that's doubtful. It's making way too much money to end.
It maybe will get a break but Super isn't going to end. It's just not reasonable to end it now with so much storylines left to be told. Some of those storylines have already been teased and it would feel wrong to end it now.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Ilikepictures-meh » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:21 pm

Doubt it. It's very unlikely that Super will take a hiatus or do a season break. Though that's more likely than it officially ending. No way in hell it is ending with the amount of revenue it makes.

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Post by majinwarman » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:24 pm

Ilikepictures-meh wrote:Doubt it. It's very unlikely that Super will take a hiatus or do a season break. Though that's more likely than it officially ending. No way in hell it is ending with the amount of revenue it makes.
That's why I said maybe it will go on break but I don't really believe it though.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Chuquita » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:32 pm

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Chuquita wrote:One of my issues with it potentially ending is that I have doubt they'll use the time off to their advantage if this is a hiatus. They'll probably just throw everyone onto other projects like the Crystal movie or Kitaro.

I still don't think Super's ending so I'll hold off on any plans unless it turns out to be true. Super's the only thing keeping me posting here after all. It ending would directly impact my involvement in this fandom.
Even if Super ends, i'm 100% sure that it's getting a sequel series, or at least another Dragon Ball series.
It could, but the premise of that theoretical sequel series would also be a big issue for me. Also how long we'd be on break from a weekly show matters to me too. 6 months? A year? A lot could happen in real life meanwhile.

If Super ends and I drop off Kanzenshuu my plan would probably be a tweaked version of what I was thinking of doing the months before they announced BOG. Less involvement in the fandom, but full color comics would return and I'd probably draw more original content too. (I rarely color comics anymore because of how long it takes compared to wanting relevant content out soon after each week's episode airs.) So early 2012's plan remixed. I dunno. I just have to wait and see if Super is even ending or not.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:59 pm

Evidence to suggest DBS will end:

None

Potential evidence to suggest DBS may potentially end:

.This Kitaro thing, however information simply is not there to call or speculate anything concrete.*

.The current arc ends in March, and with Tsuru sadly passing away they may decide to end DBS.

.Inconsistent BD listings for BOX 11

Evidence to suggest DBS will NOT end or go on a break:

.A current series ongoing is perfect way to promote an upcoming movie.

.Show hasn't been marketed as the last arc or what have you which if it was would make sense to do as it drums up hype etc.

.#17 VA did say he was thankful this journey will continue next year rather than into the new year plus we all expect #17 to get KO'd soon so it does feel like he's talking about the next arc. (Though perhaps reading a bit much into this).

.* This Kitaro thing isn't even announced to be an anime and even if it is, there is Monster Hunter AKA DBS' lead in show, originally slated to last 48 episodes it was however suprisingly renewed by FUJITV for a second season HOWEVER the second season episode count is unknown on top of that FUNiRoll have have difficulty licensing the second season so it could be highly likely that a second season of MH was only commissioned to fill time before this Kitaro project.

.ToP/US arc has been a runaway success in the department that matters as evidenced here.

.(Previously I said this doesn't mean much but thinking about it, it actually means a lot)- Goku's new form doesn't begin it's main marketing push until March, which would be VERY odd if there was no DBS as with the previous movies they would market and promote the new forms around about the movies release date and not wait 5 months to then go ham on it. On top of that most merch regarding UI has been blanked out which again doesn't make sense if there is no show from March. If the show was ending or going in a break then the merch roll out would slow down, but nope everything is on schedule and heavy like it currently is all the way through to May.
Just like the Trunks arc the general ToP/US arc merch roll out has begun at the back end of the arc which again doesn't make sense if the show would be ending as they should been main marketing it before. As you can also see UI Goku is still not being main visualised yet...

.Nozawa recently said she hopes DBS goes on for 700 episodes (or a big number like that) which again wouldn't make sense as I am sure at this point they would at least tell the VA's that this is their last arc to voice etc.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by precita » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:07 pm

Ajay and Herms wouldn't be speculating this without good reason. Both have been in the Dragonball fandom for decades and are well respected mods and Herms translates all the Japanese summaries and info before anyone else. They are high up on the food chain just below VegettoEX. It's not like we're talking about your average joe blow from youtube or reddit.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:12 pm

precita wrote:Ajay and Herms wouldn't be speculating this without good reason. Both have been in the Dragonball fandom for decades and are well respected mods and Herms translates all the Japanese summaries and info before anyone else. They are high up on the food chain just below VegettoEX. It's not like we're talking about your average joe blow from youtube or reddit.
Ajay literally just said it was pure 100000% speculation if anything Herms was opposing him as opposed to speculating with. I literally gave actual evidence on both sides yet you chose to ignore because a some "high up on the food chain" people are speculating... really?

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Post by IndieBooToo » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:13 pm

precita wrote:Ajay and Herms wouldn't be speculating this without good reason. Both have been in the Dragonball fandom for decades and are well respected mods and Herms translates all the Japanese summaries and info before anyone else. They are high up on the food chain just below VegettoEX. It's not like we're talking about your average joe blow from youtube or reddit.
I really do hope Super goes on hiatus though. This tournament arc has been pretty lame for the most part and it's clear they're running out of ideas.

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:17 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
precita wrote:Ajay and Herms wouldn't be speculating this without good reason. Both have been in the Dragonball fandom for decades and are well respected mods and Herms translates all the Japanese summaries and info before anyone else. They are high up on the food chain just below VegettoEX. It's not like we're talking about your average joe blow from youtube or reddit.
Ajay literally just said it was pure 100000% speculation if anything Herms was opposing him as opposed to speculating with. I literally gave actual evidence on both sides yet you chose to ignore because a some "high up on the food chain" people are speculating... really?
I think there’s far more evidence particularly storywise, even at the end of Universe 6 Tournament arc people were speculating that a multi universe tournament would be the final arc. Now it’s here and we have multiple “signs” that this could be the case. I still think we need to wait for official news but logically this was foretold by most of the fandom before the ToP was even announced. The other stuff supporting it such as the time slots, the lack of new arc announced and the interview back in March that cause confusion all support the idea of it.

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