If Champa got U7's Earth

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If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:08 pm

Imagine how OP U6 would be in the ToP. If Champa won the previous tournament and got U7's Earth then U6's team would be (in order of strength):

1. Goku
2. Hit
3. Vegeta
4. Freeza
5. Gohan
6. Android 17
7. Pirina
8. Saonel
9. Kale
10. Magetta


The only one I'm not sure about is Freeza since I don't know if Earth's Hell, which is the place were Freeza went when he died, is connected to our Earth and would therefore be transported along with it to U6, or if it would still stay in U7.

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Lionel » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:53 pm

I don't think Freeza would follow after Universe 7's displaced Earth. The death of his physical body may be linked to the planet but his soul would be languishing in Hell. Resurrecting him would make for an interesting exercise in ascertaining whether Shenron and Porguna's magical abilities transcend universes. For Champa's tournament roster, you're right in that he would have a very powerful team going into it. Beerus wouldn't have very many options left since virtually everyone on his team was from Earth originally. I could see him putting together some hilarious rag-tag group of low level misfits with Monaka inducted as the leader because Beerus doesn't have anyone else for the job.

Jiren still poses the biggest threat but with Kefla now working alongside our Earth he'll be forced to take action sooner. Good luck to everyone else.

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Almighty Majin » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:41 pm

I imagine team U6 will be more like this:
1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Gohan
4. Cabba
5. Caulifla
6. Kale
7. Hit
8. Piccolo
9. Android 17
10. Android 18

By the time of the ToP, Goku and Vegeta will have most definitely visited planet Sadal and would have trained the three U6 Saiyans to their level. They would've just trained with Vados instead of Whis. Piccolo will have probably gone to the U6 Namek and with the ToP being a thing, Saonel and Pirina may have just decided to fuse with Piccolo along with maybe even more Namekians. Basically team U6 would be filled with god level characters.

Team U7 would be way more complicated to create. It would probably turn out like this:
1. Jaco
2. Galactic King
3. Commeson
4. Watagashi
5. Kibito
The rest of the members can be some Namekians, Galactic Patrol members, Metalmen, Yardrats, or (this is a stretch) perhaps some demon realm beings akin to Mira or Towa.

Not sure what happens with Freeza and Future Trunks though. Freeza would still be in Hell, but I'm not sure where Trunks will come in if he comes back from the time machine. Would he still return to the same Earth or end up in U7 somewhere lost?

So U7 could probably be more like:
1. Freeza
2. Watagashi
3. Commeson
4. Galactic King
5. Jaco
6. Jiya
7. U7 Magetta
8. Super Namekian
9. Yardrat
10. Kibito

Actually this isn't a bad lineup for U7. Freeza is easily god level and Watagashi and Commeson could also achieve that level of power if they use their abilities on the correct targets. The super Namekian would probably be around the level of Saonel and Pirina or higher.

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:56 pm

Almighty Majin wrote:I imagine team U6 will be more like this:
1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Gohan
4. Cabba
5. Caulifla
6. Kale
7. Hit
8. Piccolo
9. Android 17
10. Android 18

By the time of the ToP, Goku and Vegeta will have most definitely visited planet Sadal and would have trained the three U6 Saiyans to their level. They would've just trained with Vados instead of Whis. Piccolo will have probably gone to the U6 Namek and with the ToP being a thing, Saonel and Pirina may have just decided to fuse with Piccolo along with maybe even more Namekians. Basically team U6 would be filled with god level characters.

Team U7 would be way more complicated to create. It would probably turn out like this:
1. Jaco
2. Galactic King
3. Commeson
4. Watagashi
5. Kibito
The rest of the members can be some Namekians, Galactic Patrol members, Metalmen, Yardrats, or (this is a stretch) perhaps some demon realm beings akin to Mira or Towa.

Not sure what happens with Freeza and Future Trunks though. Freeza would still be in Hell, but I'm not sure where Trunks will come in if he comes back from the time machine. Would he still return to the same Earth or end up in U7 somewhere lost?

So U7 could probably be more like:
1. Freeza
2. Watagashi
3. Commeson
4. Galactic King
5. Jaco
6. Jiya
7. U7 Magetta
8. Super Namekian
9. Yardrat
10. Kibito

Actually this isn't a bad lineup for U7. Freeza is easily god level and Watagashi and Commeson could also achieve that level of power if they use their abilities on the correct targets. The super Namekian would probably be around the level of Saonel and Pirina or higher.
I can see Caulifla surpassing Magetta if she trained with Goku before the tournament, but why would #18 be there instead of Magetta? Even if we highball #18 to SSJ Vegeta level (even though the's probably <= Base Vegeta), she would still be weaker than Magetta since Magetta never even got a dent from both of his fights against SSJ Vegeta and he blocked a Big Bang Attack from SSJ Vegeta like it was nothing.

Also, I wonder if Beerus would be allowed to let Commeson make a Copy-Beerus for the tournament.

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Almighty Majin » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:08 am

Hakaishin Liquir wrote: I can see Caulifla surpassing Magetta if she trained with Goku before the tournament, but why would #18 be there instead of Magetta? Even if we highball #18 to SSJ Vegeta level (even though the's probably <= Base Vegeta), she would still be weaker than Magetta since Magetta never even got a dent from both of his fights against SSJ Vegeta and he blocked a Big Bang Attack from SSJ Vegeta like it was nothing.

Also, I wonder if Beerus would be allowed to let Commeson make a Copy-Beerus for the tournament.
While Magetta is stronger than 18, he still has that crippling weakness of getting beaten by insults. I mean he could still cover up his ears and all, but still. Plus 18 has infinite energy and would have good teamwork with 17 (who would be the one replacing Buu in this case). I guess you could alternatively have Botamo and Magetta instead of 17 and 18 for the Bota-Magetta combo.

How do you think the new team U7 would fare in the tournament though?

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by sintzu » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:40 am

UI Goku, Ssj2 Kefla, Hit's timeskip & a powered up Blue Vegeta would've taken out Jiren a lot earlier in the tournament.
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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by sunkensheep » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:51 am

Almighty Majin wrote: Not sure what happens with Freeza and Future Trunks though. Freeza would still be in Hell, but I'm not sure where Trunks will come in if he comes back from the time machine. Would he still return to the same Earth or end up in U7 somewhere lost?

So U7 could probably be more like:
1. Freeza
2. Watagashi
3. Commeson
4. Galactic King
5. Jaco
6. Jiya
7. U7 Magetta
8. Super Namekian
9. Yardrat
10. Kibito

Actually this isn't a bad lineup for U7. Freeza is easily god level and Watagashi and Commeson could also achieve that level of power if they use their abilities on the correct targets. The super Namekian would probably be around the level of Saonel and Pirina or higher.
I think if they could bring back Freeza, they could bring back Cell too and even Ginyu in Tagoma's body, since he's been dead for just a few months and may not be reincarnated yet. They could do it with the Namekian Dragon Balls so there's no time limit for them to be alive. Cell could even train with Freeza and/or Tagoma inside Whis' sceptre and attain the golden form and/or SSG level.

Since we don't know if there are enough Namekians on U7 to make a strong fighter or a Magetta-level fighter, I suggest that maybe Abo and Cado could be of some use when fused.

I wonder if the Black arc would happen in this timeline as well and with the same results. Without Trunks coming back, Goku would be killed by Zamasu and that would put in jeopardy U6's Team.

Anyway, the U7 could be:
1. Freeza
2. Cell
3. Tagoma/Ginyu
4. Watagashi
5. Commeson
6. Galactic King
7. Jiya
8. Jaco or Kibito (I don't know who could be stronger, maybe Kibito)
9. Abo
10. Cado

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:51 am

They would likely have this whole thing in the bag.

Goku

Vegeta

Hit

Caulifla

Kale

Gohan

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Plus any random three fighters from the ether universe and Kafla or Vegito fusion to boot.

Beerus and U7 would be so screwed!

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Torturephile » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:31 pm

-Goku.
-Vegeta.
-Gohan.
-Caulifla.
-Kale.
-Piccolo fused with Saonel, Pirina and volunteering namekians.
-Hit.
-Android 17.
-Android 18.
-Majin Buu.

A few fusions could emerge out of this lineup:
-Vegetto.
-Kefla.
-Android 35.

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Almighty Majin » Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:54 pm

sunkensheep wrote:
I think if they could bring back Freeza, they could bring back Cell too and even Ginyu in Tagoma's body, since he's been dead for just a few months and may not be reincarnated yet. They could do it with the Namekian Dragon Balls so there's no time limit for them to be alive. Cell could even train with Freeza and/or Tagoma inside Whis' sceptre and attain the golden form and/or SSG level.

Since we don't know if there are enough Namekians on U7 to make a strong fighter or a Magetta-level fighter, I suggest that maybe Abo and Cado could be of some use when fused.

I wonder if the Black arc would happen in this timeline as well and with the same results. Without Trunks coming back, Goku would be killed by Zamasu and that would put in jeopardy U6's Team.

Anyway, the U7 could be:
1. Freeza
2. Cell
3. Tagoma/Ginyu
4. Watagashi
5. Commeson
6. Galactic King
7. Jiya
8. Jaco or Kibito (I don't know who could be stronger, maybe Kibito)
9. Abo
10. Cado
I doubt Cell would come back since no one alive would even know who he is. Using the Namekian DB, it's likely that they just revive Freeza, King Cold, and Ginyu. If Cold is brought back, Freeza would definitely want to train him so they would use Whis' staff for that and bring along Ginyu as well.

We're not sure where Abo and Cado are at all after the special they were in, perhaps they went back with Tarble to his planet. If that is the case, then they could recruit Abo and Cado. I also think that since there doesn't seem to be a limit for the Abocado fusion, then they can take up just one spot together. It's also very possible that Beerus would force Tarble to join his team since he is also a Saiyan and Vegeta's brother. Perhaps he would also get some forced training in Whis' staff as well. I'm sure the abuse he'll endure will give him SSJ and the training could give him SSJB.

Whis' staff would basically just be Freeza, Cold, Ginyu, AboCado, and Tarble all training inside. Which can result in: a stronger Golden Freeza, Golden King Cold, a stronger Ginyu, a stronger AboCado, and maybe SSJB Tarble.

That's true, we don't know if the U7 Namekians can form a fighter on the level of the U6 duo or if there is a Magetta-level U7 metalman or if there is a Jimeze-level U7 Yardrat, but I was just giving some possibilities. Actually, in the Jaco manga when Jaco talks about the Galactic Patrol, there is a Namekian member in the panel so he could be used instead of Jaco since he can't use ki.

So the U7 team in this case could probably be this:
1. Freeza
2. King Cold
3. Captain Ginyu
4. AboCado
5. Watagashi
6. Commeson
7. Tarble
8. Galactic King
9. Jiya
10. Jaco (or a much stronger member like that Namekian perhaps)

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Grimlock » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:52 pm

Hakaishin Liquir wrote:Imagine how OP U6 would be in the ToP.
If Champa got Universe 7's Earth, I could only imagine how incredible Dragon Ball Super would be! :D Too bad that things played out the way it went though. :thumbdown:

Anyways, as for the real subject here... Yeah, Universe 6's team would be overpower, the possible combinations would be no match even for Jiren.

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by sunkensheep » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:13 am

Almighty Majin wrote:I doubt Cell would come back since no one alive would even know who he is.
There's always Zuno-sama :D if resurrection becomes an option, there's a chance that they could ask him about the strongest fighters to resurrect out of desperation.

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Whatever » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:36 am

Champa is lazy so he will propably take the easy route and combine the U6 team along with the U7 team used in the Champa arc,since he will already have 3 saiyans i doubt he would recruit the U6 Saiyans.And since the team is full that means no U6 Namekians or DrRota.
Since Monaka is a fraud and not from Earth Gohan will take his place.

Of course since the team is full no humans and since no 18(she is the reason they even considered 17)that means no 17 either(they did not know how strong he has gotten and no reach to check since the team is good).
Once Buu falls asleep he will replace him with one of the humans( so no Freeza as well).
So logically the team will be:
1)Goku
2)Vegeta
3)Piccolo
4)Gohan
5)Krillin or Roshi
6)Botamo
7)Frost
8)Mageta
9)Cabba
10)Hit

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by Almighty Majin » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:55 pm

sunkensheep wrote:
Almighty Majin wrote:I doubt Cell would come back since no one alive would even know who he is.
There's always Zuno-sama :D if resurrection becomes an option, there's a chance that they could ask him about the strongest fighters to resurrect out of desperation.
If that's the case then many fighters who have been dead would also be available besides Cell such as: Dabura, Bardock, Yamoshi, and anyone else in the past who may have been really strong.

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Re: If Champa got U7's Earth

Post by sunkensheep » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:07 pm

Almighty Majin wrote:
sunkensheep wrote:
Almighty Majin wrote:I doubt Cell would come back since no one alive would even know who he is.
There's always Zuno-sama :D if resurrection becomes an option, there's a chance that they could ask him about the strongest fighters to resurrect out of desperation.
If that's the case then many fighters who have been dead would also be available besides Cell such as: Dabura, Bardock, Yamoshi, and anyone else in the past who may have been really strong.
I thought about that too but if I remember it correctly it was stated that after a while every soul gets purified for being reincarnated, Freeza being an exception. I thought that Ginyu could still be available because his death was relatively recent and Cell because of... plot reasons :).

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