"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kaiosama]

So I guess it seems more or less confirmed that Gohan will be getting eliminated next week. That’s a bit of a shame. I liked the idea of Gohan making it all the way to the very end of the tournament with Goku. I guess I should’ve seen this coming though, given that Gohan has pretty much been a supporting character ever since he got absorbed by Majin Buu.

Gohan has been mostly a support character outside of his 1 moment of greatness which was him beating Cell,which is what fans still cannot let go.
If anything Gohan has been treated better in this arc than in the whole DBZ(excluding him defeating Cell of course).

So I guess it seems more or less confirmed that Gohan will be getting eliminated next week. That’s a bit of a shame. I liked the idea of Gohan making it all the way to the very end of the tournament with Goku. I guess I should’ve seen this coming though, given that Gohan has pretty much been a supporting character ever since he got absorbed by Majin Buu.

He'll be just fine, don't give the title too much weight, they have been misleading before as well..
Either way, dyspo was built up like a gag, he isn't defeating any team 7 warriors..

You are seriously downplaying my boy Dyspo,if he is going down he is gonna take the U7 leader with him,he is going for the moral victory.
Just imagine how much the U7 team will be affected once its leader goes down.

They won't care or haven't cared since the beginning of the tournament. Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza immediately went off to do their own thing and didn't listen to a single thing Gohan said. They won't lose any sleep if Gohan gets eliminated.

[Araki]

I think one of the posters here told us the reason.

The writers have the characters state the obvious in order for the young kids to fully understand what is going on (in case they missed something). This is a kids show, after all. It can be vexing for us grown ups, but it is what it is.

They explained a bit more of what Vegeta's new form was. Which is funny since fans also complain when explanations are left vague and people don't really comment. Or when the show does explain something, fan either ignore it or corrupt the statement.

Exactly. I don't know what is more ironic, that or the fact DBZ fans are complaining about other characters talking in the middle of fights. DBZ fans. I repeat: freaking D-B-Z fans.

[Pannaliciour]

Is it just me or is the final stage of the TOP really great. I am beginning to really like it now. I think its because they cut down the contestants to 8 players. Before all this it was a bit of chaos etc. Now with Jiren en the saiyens. I really hope Freeza will survive til the end. I want to see his fighting strategic against Jiren.

Its Ironic that the not greatest saga (Top) has the best episodes of all saga (imo) episode 109/110, 116 122 123.

The best raw fight is still Goku vs Cell (that moment when they are all over the arena at high speed) but if they do it right Jiren vs Goku or Vegeta (final battle) can win be my new number 1

[Kenneth La Torre]

Yall hyping up freeza too much. No way in hell i freeza going to win tbis tournament. Its 100% going to be jiren and goku at the end, despite me not wanting it to be.

[Noah]

I think Toppo will win this tournament, he might achieve a power beyond all Gods of Destruction, so in other words everyone including his friend Jiren is doomed.

[Kenneth La Torre]

I think Toppo will win this tournament, he might achieve a power beyond all Gods of Destruction, so in other words everyone including his friend Jiren is doomed.

That has a less than 0% chance of happening.

[Noah]

That has a less than 0% chance of happening.

Because..?

[Kenneth La Torre]

That has a less than 0% chance of happening.

Because..?

Because its quite obvious.

[dblack]

I think there is the possibility of Goku/Vegeta/Jiren 3-way ring outing each other. Limit-breaker Freeza vs GoD Toppo for the win. That would be a big plot twist.

Would be extremely anti-climactic but not sure why Goku doesn’t just wait for an opportunity to touch Jiren and IT to the bench.

[IndieBooToo]

Yall hyping up freeza too much. No way in hell i freeza going to win tbis tournament. Its 100% going to be jiren and goku at the end, despite me not wanting it to be.

Frieza has a better chance at making it to the end than Vegeta lol.

[Kaiosama]

Yall hyping up freeza too much. No way in hell i freeza going to win tbis tournament. Its 100% going to be jiren and goku at the end, despite me not wanting it to be.

Frieza has a better chance at making it to the end than Vegeta lol.

I'm not so sure. They haven't given him a new transformation unless he's been suppressing the power of True Golden Frieza this whole time. Either way, he wanted to avoid fighting Jiren, so he knows his true power wouldn't be enough. Unless they end up giving Frieza and Gohan limit breaking forms, I don't see them making it as long as Vegeta(as much as I hate his character).

[GodVegetto91]

That has a less than 0% chance of happening.

Because..?

Because WHY would Jiren be doomed against his “friend” Toppo. And why would he surpass all the GoDs and even Jiren when there is zero evidence pointing towards it other than your own headcanon?

[Noah]

Because WHY would Jiren be doomed against his “friend” Toppo. And why would he surpass all the GoDs and even Jiren when there is zero evidence pointing towards it other than your own headcanon?

Because Toppo could have gone mad with all the power he got and no, there's a evidence: Episode 125 title is "Advent of the God of Destruction, Toppo! There is Only Overwhelming Power!!"

[Ki Breaker]

Where are all these guys pulling out all of this overwhelming power anyway..

Also, if it's titled overwhelming some lightweightvegeta is about to get overwhelmed here..

[sintzu]

Is it just me or is the final stage of the TOP really great. I am beginning to really like it now. I think its because they cut down the contestants to 8 players.

This is why I wanted them to not have so many fighters so each fight could be given the same attention as what we're seeing now.

[IndieBooToo]

Yall hyping up freeza too much. No way in hell i freeza going to win tbis tournament. Its 100% going to be jiren and goku at the end, despite me not wanting it to be.

Frieza has a better chance at making it to the end than Vegeta lol.

I'm not so sure. They haven't given him a new transformation unless he's been suppressing the power of True Golden Frieza this whole time. Either way, he wanted to avoid fighting Jiren, so he knows his true power wouldn't be enough. Unless they end up giving Frieza and Gohan limit breaking forms, I don't see them making it as long as Vegeta(as much as I hate his character).

That's literally why they would make it longer than Vegeta lol...

[Doctor.]

Not a big deal anyway since we know he will get even stronger, but that's it. Namek had even more power inflation.

Namek's power inflation, at the very least, was measurable. We knew exactly how strong everyone was, how strong everyone got with training/power-ups/transformations, how they compared to each-other and so on. The ToP couldn't be any more arbitrary if it tried.

[Nickolaidas]

Not a big deal anyway since we know he will get even stronger, but that's it. Namek had even more power inflation.

Namek's power inflation, at the very least, was measurable. We knew exactly how strong everyone was, how strong everyone got with training/power-ups/transformations, how they compared to each-other and so on. The ToP couldn't be any more arbitrary if it tried.

But it was still bullshit, imo.

The zenkai makes no sense at all. Basically, all that Saiyan arc Vegeta had to do was nearly get killed three times within two days and BAM! His power is increased from 18.000 to like, a gazillion.

Let me state this once more.

Vegeta went from 18.000 to be able of fighting 4th stage Frieza (relatively effectively).

In a few days.

Makes you wonder how the hell the saiyan people hadn't reached Beerus' power level just by fighting amongst themselves to near-death within a few weeks. Heck, they even KNEW the ability of the zenkai and how it works. But no, that's not jumping the shark bullshit at all! It's the 'now SSB Goku is a match for Jiren, now he's not!' that pisses the fans.

It's bad writing to have a character suddenly have a power increase of like 100000000000% within a few days (because plot), while all his life he had a steady, slow increase. It's not like Vegeta was living in a lab - he was fighting all his life. So all his life he managed a PL of 18.000 and then, a few days later he has like, what, 20 million?

Or how about Dr.Gero, who is the VERY DEFINITION of lazy writing? An inventor living in a backwater planet (when compared to the other starfaring races like Saiyans and Frieza's race who have evolved to the point of space travel, lazer rifles and healing regeneration machines), is able to build robots who are hundreds of times stronger than the creature who LITERALLY ruled the universe?! What kind of tech did he use? What resources did he have? How was he able to build something like that when the Earth clearly isn't evolved or sophisticated enough to make such tech? This is the equivalent of an Earthen kid living in his garage, and building a robot which is 20 times stronger than Superman.

[Totamo]

Not a big deal anyway since we know he will get even stronger, but that's it. Namek had even more power inflation.

Namek's power inflation, at the very least, was measurable. We knew exactly how strong everyone was, how strong everyone got with training/power-ups/transformations, how they compared to each-other and so on. The ToP couldn't be any more arbitrary if it tried.

Such a fib, Vegeta zenkai boosts were so inconsistent and Freeza randoms percentages were measurable to you? The anime made it even worse.


The namek saga is known for when Dragon ball's power scale died.

[HeroR]

Not a big deal anyway since we know he will get even stronger, but that's it. Namek had even more power inflation.

Namek's power inflation, at the very least, was measurable. We knew exactly how strong everyone was, how strong everyone got with training/power-ups/transformations, how they compared to each-other and so on. The ToP couldn't be any more arbitrary if it tried.

Such a fib, Vegeta zenkai boosts were so inconsistent and Freeza randoms percentages were measurable to you? The anime made it even worse.


The namek saga is known for when Dragon ball's power scale died.

Goku had the biggest BS power boost. How did he go form 90,000 without Kaioken to 3 million base after Vegeta hurt his body when Ginyu was controlling it. That's a biggest jumped than all of Goku's training from Earth to Namek, and that was six days. And Vegeta's beat down of Ginyu-Goku could barely be called near death. At least compared to Vegeta letting Krillin blow a hole in his chest.